Are the 20% anti-Immigration Bill idiots all here on Y/A? Are you awake?

Question

It seems not.
http://www.galluppoll.com/content/?ci=27307

I find the following excerpt especially interesting:
According to the mid-April USA Today/Gallup poll, only 12% of Americans believe the United States has made progress in dealing with illegal immigration in the past year. The rest are divided between those perceiving no change and those saying the country has lost ground.

Now that progress is being made, many Americans are whining.
WHAT DO YOU WANT?

http://www.galluppoll.com/content/?ci=26875

Answer 1

I think the people who are EXTREMELY anti any bill that gives illegal immigrants a chance at citizenship are a bit racist whether they want to admit it or not. You have a perfectly good solution here that would bring them out of the shadows, tightly secure our borders so no more will come in, and they're still bitching and saying that they prefer that the nothing be done than to pass this bill.

I think it's funny how everyone says "enforce our current laws and there won't be a problem." Yeah maybe that would have been the case had they enforced it in 1986 when they passed it, but they didn't and now you have a whole new problem in the form of 12 million people who are here and have been here for many years. Since it seems like compassion has gone out the window with us these days, perhaps we should instead be objective and realize that they're not going anywhere, we need their labor, so let's legalize them once and for all and put some serious security in place.

GOD what is it with all these Lou Dobbs lovers on Y! answers?

Answer 2

Hello,

I do not really feel this way or condone it but I am just going to play the devil's advocate for a moment and show what could be done to enforce immigration laws.

1) Build a Berlin type wall across the border and heavily patrol the coasts; put mine fields on land and sea.

2) As the EU has decided, heavily punish anyone who hires an undocumented worker. Fine the owner 5000.00 and a year in prison first offence, 500,000 and 10 years in jail thereafter. This inculed households who hire anyone for being a nanny, house keeper or gardner.

3) Clamp down or crush Western Union And the Money Mart type businesses. Banks can be controlled and observed by the IRS who can make sure nobody gets an account without a social insurance number. Even in my country Western Union and these similar businesses are the main instruments which permit illegals to thrive, get payed, cash cheques and transfer funds. Without them life would be quite miserable.

4) Seize the homes and assets of the illegals when caught and sell their posessions in auction like you do to drug trafficers. Not one nickle to go home with! That would be discouraging.


So based on the above you have to instill fear into anyone who thinks of being illegal and frighten those who would aid and abet them. The IRS, Revenue Canada, Revenue Germany and all the west can sure frighten the vast majority of their citizens into paying such rediculously high taxes... why can't they do the same to those who would be illegal residents?

Answer 3

First of all you have the numbers wrong. It is 80% that are AGAINST amnesty. It is the "other" 20 % that favor amnesty.
The gallup poll is a sham and it wouldn't surprise me if Teddy, don't ride in my car without a life preserver, Kennedy funded that poll. Every other poll has shown the exact opposite.
BBaller, oh you played the race card, my aren't you special. There is some real logic for you.

In 1986 the US granted amnesty and promised enforcement. In 2007 they want to grant amnesty AGAIN and AGAIN they are promising enforcement. What is the difference besides 21 years and 12 to 20 million MORE illegal aliens?
How long and how much will it take to process all these illegals? The lesson learned from 1986 is amnesty only encourages MORE illegal immigration.

In 1986 Kennedy said, ‘This amnesty will give citizenship to only 1.1 to 1.3 million illegal aliens. We will secure the borders henceforth. We will never again bring forward another amnesty bill like this.’

And whose name is on the NEW Amnesty Bill? He lied to us in 1986 and his lying to us now.

Screw me once, shame on you, screw me twice shame on me.
Anyone that has put even the slightest bit of thought into the pro illegal mantras recognize it for the load of manure that it is.
A bag of manure with the label "comprehensive reform" is still a bag of manure.

Why do we have to have comprehensive, all inclusive reform? Riddle me that batman. If everyone is agreed that we must secure the borders then why don't we just do that? One problem at a time. Couldn't we have three bills? one to deal with securing the borders, one to deal with enforcement and verification, and one to deal with what to do with those that are here? wouldn't that be easier and more effective?

The answer is simple. Kennedy and the pro illegal crowd only want amnesty and they know they will never get it unless they wrap it up with promises of enforcement. They already know that they are not going to secure the borders and it will be 1986 all over again.

All the anti's are really saying is show me the enforcement. Show me you are going to secure the borders. Show me you will stop illegal immigration and THEN we will talk about granting a "path to citizenship"

Answer 4

It's not so much that the Americans are complaining, it's the illegal immigrants. I live in Arizona and hear them being asked questions on the radio about the new bill: they say that the 5000 is too much money to pay! Even with the amount of years they have to pay it off. Some immigrants pay coyotes 5K to be smuggled then to be enslaved by them. Both sides of the border and our own political parties still are unhappy with the new bill. Besides, in my opinion, only liberals take those polls on Gallup.

Answer 5

What you are calling progress, is not progress. Selling CITIZENSHIP is an abomination. It is a slap across the face of immigrants who have jumped through the hoops to get here. Amnesty is not the answer. Quit looking at the polls. They do not reflect what real Americans are thinking or saying.

Answer 6

GALLUP NEWS SERVICE

PRINCETON, NJ -- Speaking at an Arizona Border Patrol station in early April, President George W. Bush renewed his call for Congress to pass a comprehensive immigration reform bill this year. Bush favors a combination of strict border control and greater enforcement of penalties against employers who hire illegal workers, along with creating lawful ways for temporary workers to enter the country, and for those already here illegally to become citizens.

A USA Today/Gallup poll conducted April 13-15, 2007, finds the American public in broad agreement with Bush's desire to give illegal immigrants a path to citizenship. Forty-two percent of Americans say their preferred approach to dealing with illegal immigrants is to require them to leave the United States, but then allow them to return and become U.S. citizens if they meet certain requirements. Another 36% would prefer a more liberal system that allows illegal immigrants to remain in the United States while they work toward meeting requirements needed to gain citizenship.

The hard-line approach to illegal immigrants -- requiring them to leave the country with no opportunity to return -- is favored by just 14% of the public.

Answer 7

There is no progress it is just a small group of people who want to ram their open border stance down the American citizens.
All that is needed is to enforce the laws that have been past. Simple. We need no more bills passed just enforcement PERIOD.
It is only the whinner that want changes to be open border third world low wage two tier population. Rich and Poor country. That is the goal. Think about it.

Answer 8

Unlawful Entry is a CRIME. Zero tolerance for immigration-law violators! No amnesty, no "stealth-amnesty." No "change of status," marriage fraud, "exceptional leave to remain," no "Temporary Protected Status." If you break the law, depart or be deported. Illegal aliens kill more US citizens each year than the war in Iraq has killed in four years. Apologists for illegal immigration like to paint it as a victimless crime. But in fact, illegal immigration causes substantial harm to American citizens and legal immigrants, particularly those in the most vulnerable sectors of our population--the poor, minorities, and children. Additionally, job competition by waves of illegal immigrants willing to work at substandard wages and working conditions depresses the wages of American workers, hitting hardest at minority workers and those without high school degrees. Illegal immigration also contributes to the dramatic population growth overwhelming communities across America--crowding school classrooms, consuming already limited affordable housing, and straining precious natural resources like water, energy, and forestland. Taxpayers are being forced to pay for the free health care, education, and other welfare programs being given to illegal aliens; Those tax dollars could be given back to U.S. taxpayers or used to keep our borders secure; They may be here illegally, but they sure know how to "work the system" to collect "free" medical care, "free" education, "free" food, Section 8 housing vouchers and other housing assistance, and hundreds of other social services. It costs citizens additional hundreds of billions of tax dollars at every level: local, state, and federal. It gobbles up billions of our charitable contributions. And much of that money ends up siphoned out of our economy and into offshore accounts. Illegal aliens, over half of whom work "under the table" with neither job nor income reported (nor taxed), are not counted as employed or unemployed. But some of those day-labor and off-the-books "job-lets" would be "real" jobs - available to American citizen job-seekers - if employment regulations were enforced. Illegal aliens can get away with tax evasion, et al., which citizens cannot. In short, we have too many workforce entrants and too few jobs created. The ratio works out to roughly 7-10 workforce entrants per job created. If all illegal aliens depart or are deported, all legal immigration halted, and all temporary employment visas abolished, we still have a problem with more US-born workforce entrants than new jobs created. Illegal immigration damages our country and our citizens every day at every level. And not even the attacks of 2/26 and 9/11 have awakened many Americans to the vast dangers illegal immigration poses to our selves, our families, our communities, our society, our values, our principles, our civilization. Zero Tolerance for Immigration-Law Violators! We must remember the lessons of 2/26, 9/11, and the costs we bear every single day. God Bless the U S A !

Answer 9

Everyother country protects and guards their borders. I don't see why we shouldn't be able to. I'm all for legal immigration, someone running across a desert to get in...NO. Immigration is one of the few things that irritates me and I think our government has not done anything about it. In Missouri the cops are finding illegal immigrants all over the place. They then contact our government officials to let them know and they get told that they are more worried about terrism. Something is wrong with that picture if you ask me.

Answer 10

Really, no one asked my opinion.
And I am a Naturalized Citizen whose father immigrated to America the LEGAL way by applying and waiting 10 years.
So all my father's hard work and separation from his family means nothing to these stupid politicians?