Luke 12:58-59 talks about???

Question

I just read a purgatory question and someone used this scripture (along with others).

This is what my Bible says:
Luke 12:57-59

57 Settle Your Problems


"Why can't you decide for yourselves what is right? 58 If your enemy is taking you to court, try hard to settle it on the way. If you don't, your enemy might take you to the judge, and the judge might turn you over to the officer, and the officer might throw you into jail. 59 I tell you, you will not get out of there until you have paid everything you owe."

Anyone's thoughts on this how it can be about purgatory and not settling your problems? Just wondering?

This one with NKJV...looks alot like the NCV. Things that make you go...hmmm

Luke 12:57-59

57 Make Peace with Your Adversary

"Yes, and why, even of yourselves, do you not judge what is right? 58 When you go with your adversary to the magistrate, make every effort along the way to settle with him, lest he drag you to the judge, the judge deliver you to the officer, and the officer throw you into prison. 59 I tell you, you shall not depart from there till you have paid the very last mite."
NKJV

Answer 1

Actually it's about settling your issues outside of court before matters get worse.

Answer 2

Luke 12: 54-59

Interpreting the Times

54 He said to the crowd: "When you see a cloud rising in the west, immediately you say, 'It's going to rain,' and it does. 55 And when the south wind blows, you say, 'It's going to be hot,' and it is. 56 Hypocrites! You know how to interpret the appearance of the earth and the sky. How is it that you don't know how to interpret this present time?

57 "Why don't you judge for yourselves what is right? 58 As you are going with your adversary to the magistrate, try hard to be reconciled on the way, or your adversary may drag you off to the judge, and the judge turn you over to the officer, and the officer throw you into prison. 59 I tell you, you will not get out until you have paid the last penny."


Jesus is telling the people they should be able to settle their own differences, if they go before a judge the problem might be a lot worse.

It has nothing to do with purgatory.

Answer 3

It is important to note that those who believe in the doctrine of purgatory do not believe that purgatory is a "second chance" for salvation after death. Rather, those who suffer purgatory were already saved at the moment of death, and are assured of their salvation even while going through purgatory.

Indeed, the Catholic Church teaches that the souls undergoing purgatory are absolutely certain of their salvation with a greater confidence than they could achieve in this life. Furthermore, the Catholic Church makes no dogmatic statement regarding the duration or nature of suffering in purgatory.

Few Christians outside of the Roman Catholic Church believe explicitly in the doctrine of purgatory, though the practice of praying for the dead is done in many denominations and throughout Eastern Orthodoxy.

If you are to go with your opponent before a magistrate, make an effort to settle the matter on the way; otherwise your opponent will turn you over to the judge, and the judge will turn you over to the constable, and the constable throw you in into prison. I say to you, you will not be released until you have paid the last penny." (Luke 12:58-59)

Protestant Christians believe that the above passage refers to relationships in this earthly life only. While Catholic Christians accept the possibility of a temporal meaning in this text, Catholics believe it is isogesis to limit the scope of the passage to the temporal.

We believe that the author of Luke's Gospel portrays a Jesus who is using metaphoric speech. God is ultimately our judge. Paying the "last penny" means that, while Christ has paid the penalty of the eternal consequences of our sins on the cross, we must each bear the "temporal" penalty of our lesser personal sins.

It's better to see what Maccabees says about it since Luther took that book out of the original Bible.

Answer 4

He said 58-59

If you are to go with your opponent before a magistrate, make an effort to settle the matter on the way; otherwise your opponent will turn you over to the judge, and the judge hand you over to the constable, and the constable throw you into prison.

I say to you, you will not be released until you have paid the last penny." NAB translation


58: When thou goest with thine adversary to the magistrate, as thou art in the way, give diligence that thou mayest be delivered from him; lest he hale thee to the judge, and the judge deliver thee to the officer, and the officer cast thee into prison.
59: I tell thee, thou shalt not depart thence, till thou hast paid the very last mite.
KJV translation

Answer 5

These verses can be seen as being allegorical to Purgatory in the following way:

Whenever we sin, we make ourselves an enemy of God. "Settling on the way to court" can be seen as reconciling ourselves with God before our death. The "jail" mentioned is Purgatory. In this life, we must make reparations for the sins we have committed (like paying for a window that you have broken). If those reparations are not made in this life, they are made in the next life in Purgatory before we can go to Heaven.

Thi is one of those things where if you do not believe in Purgatory, you will never see the analogy.

Answer 6

The inspired Bible does NOT Speak of Purgatory or of Prayers for the Dead..! That teaching is based on TRADITION of Men...which Jesus condemmed..!Human traditions that CONFLICT with God's Word are not a Safe guide. Matt 15:1-3,6-9 Jesus was talking to the religious leader of his day and said..."Why do you TRANGRESS the commandment of God for your TRADITION?...you have made void the commandment of God for your tridition. Hypocrites... Isaiah prophesied of you saying, This people honors me with their lips: but their heart is far from me. And in vain do they worship me, teaching doctrines and commandments of men.

Answer 7

It's not about purgatory. Nothing in the entire Bible is even remotely about purgatory. However, it sound like you need to get a Bible that is not so casual with the scriptures. Any Bible that reads like yours is sure to take great liberties with the truth.

Answer 8

You should settle your own problems before you get that far

It is a warning about the injustice of the courts and the Judge of the courts

Answer 9

It's probably just some advice the author wanted to impart in his story. Purgatory is just superstitious nonsense, just like the rest of religion.,

Answer 10

Not purgatory that's for sure!