Jewish and Muslim Scholars say the Trinity concept is pure Polytheism ?

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The "New Testament": Pagan revenge

Between G-d's own miracles and the Jewish teaching of His Word, the pagan priesthoods of Egypt, Greece, and Rome were steadily losing their power over the gentile populations. They decided to fight back by creating a new religion, one that would claim to be the fulfillment of the Hebrew "Old Testament," yet would bring back the pagan lies in a new disguise.

Thus the "New Testament" was written, in Greek rather than Hebrew, and attached to the original Hebrew scriptures to try to change their meaning back toward paganism.

The "New Testament" tried to change G-d from One, as in the Hebrew scriptures, into a "trinity" as in Egyptian cults or the eastern religions of Hinduism and Buddhism. It described Jesus as G-d in a human body, like the pagans always described Pharoah and other wicked kings. It declared G-d's Law to be a "curse" that no one can truly obey, announced that there must be a "mediator" between G-d and man, and pretended that salvation could now be achieved outside the Law.

To blind the gentile nations, the "New Testament" also warned people not to learn from the Jews, declaring that Israel no longer possessed the true, complete Word of G-d.

In the Bible, the book of Daniel warned of an evil power--a false religion--that would believe in the true "G-d of fortresses... plus a god its fathers did not know." This religion would "speak bizarre words about the Most High, wear out the holy ones (the Jews), and plan to change the festivals and the religious Law."7 The Christian Church has indeed replaced Passover with Easter (the pagan holiday of Astarte and Ishtar) and Hanukah with Christmas (the pagan winter holiday).

Since then, Christian paganism has expanded to include Christmas trees, Easter eggs, and so forth.

http://www.noahide.com/paganism.htm


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Muslims have a duty to support the Jewish truth of Monotheism. Politics should not blind a Muslim in this sacred duty to the truth which is Judaisms greatest asset. Muslims and Jews both have a covenant to proclaim the oneness of G-D.

Yes Gratvol, i have no dignity or self respect. Accept me for what i am or just ignore me.

Muslims cannot compromise on the covenant to proclaim pure monotheism to everyone. The covenant has bound us to proclaim it clearly and it is up to others to reject it or accept it. If our Jewish brethren are unable to clearly do this job then it falls upon the Muslims only. Not out of hate but out of worry and love for humanity. Polytheism or adding partners unto G-D is the cardinal sin and unforgivable in the hereafter.

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Answer 1

trinity as an Egyptian thing?!! I have heard that before but as an Egyptian I know nothing about. can you elaborate on this?

some of the concepts in Christianity are similar to some of the old Egyptian customs. but I emphasis the word similar I am not claiming that they are the same. the most notable of them is the similarity between the cross and the key of life of the ancient Egyptians. and also the concept of the resurrection of Jesus (PUH) as compared to Isis.

Although, it is mentioned in the Quran, that those who believe in the trinity are non believers and Although it also mentioned that those he say that God has a son are no believers too, I don’t think that you are doing any good by coming so strong about it. People my think as one of the answers that you got that it is one God in different forms and, although for me this is difficult to grasp, it is up to God to judge them for that.

God bless

Answer 2

its amazing that on the one hand that you try to theologically ally yourself with Jews while at the same time constantly spit at them and attack them.

The fact that you post these same questions over and over again using multiple accounts is also sad and pathetic.

You are no different than many Christians that come onto this sight that come to preach instead of learn and educate.

If you had any shred of human dignity you would stop this nonsense, but I am afraid the concept of dignity and self respect is something you have yet to comprehend.


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sorry but its hard to have respect for an individual that repeats the same message over and over again like a preaching parrot. I would say the same thing if you were Jewish, Christian, or Muslim.


in addition I have no theological obligation to preach to Christians just because they believe in their idiotic trinity



Some Jewish and Christian philosophers hold that due to these differences, it may well be that Jews and Christians don't believe in the same god at all. The majority Jewish view, codified in Jewish law, is that Christians do worship the same God that Jews, along with "extra" gods (i.e., the other two sections of the trinity). This theology is referred to in Hebrew as 'Shituf' (literally "partnership"; in this context, that both the other gods and God work together). Although this theology is strictly forbidden to Jews, it may be an acceptable belief for non-Jews (according to the ruling of some Rabbinic authorities). The vast majority of Christians have always held that they worship the same God as the Jews.

Answer 3

Anyone can make claims, but where is the hard, verifiable evidence to support the claim? None. The article is just theory and conjecture.

The doctrine of the Holy Trinity is encapsulated in the Old Testament.

"The LORD appeared to Abraham by the terebinth of Mamre, as he sat in the entrance of his tent, while the day was growing hot.
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Looking up, he saw THREE men standing nearby." - Genesis 18,1-2a

"Come near to me and hear this! Not from the beginning did I speak it in secret; At the time it comes to pass, I am present: "Now the Lord GOD has sent me, and his spirit." - Isaiah 48,16

"The spirit of the Lord GOD is upon me, because the LORD has anointed me; He has sent me to bring glad tidings to the lowly, to heal the brokenhearted, To proclaim liberty to the captives and release to the prisoners," - Isaiah 61,1

Peace and blessings!

Answer 4

it is not muslims who proclaim monotheism... It is God Himself
Through many prophets God revealed and ordered people to worship the ONLY ONE ALMIGHTY GOD...
What esle do u need as a proof?
Where this stupid idea about Trinity came from????

Answer 5

There you go cutting and pasting from your tract again. Obvisouly you don;t understand what the trinity is. It is one God revealing himself in three distinct ways. Read something other than your tracts. And post your own thoughts, instead of copy/paste.