Ok, so I'm an army recruiter and my station commander stole my marriage certificate out of my personal documents folder that was in my desk drawer. He thinks he can use it against me because I married a girl who I put in the army over a year ago. She's already been through basic training and AIT, so now she's just a regular soldier in the regular army. I looked in the regulations, there rules against having an improper relationship with recruits before they leave for training, and against having an improper relationship with soldiers in initial entry training, but there's nothing against a recruiter having a relationship with someone he put in that is now a soldier. btw, I'm 25 and she's 21, just so you don't think I'm some old bastard hooking up with some teenager.
2007-05-20 09:25:19 · 5 answers · asked by Jack 2 in Politics & Government ➔ Military
Still, isn't it against the privacy act? Like if you leave your purse in your desk drawer and another NCO goes through your purse, that's still illegal. And there was no existing relationship prior to her enlistment, basic, or AIT. We hooked up and got married after she completed all that.
2007-05-20 09:40:29 · update #1
Another thing, I knew her before I came onto recruiting duty. We were not in a relationship until after she was at her duty station. Regulations say you cannot have a relationship with someone you met while part of a recruiting effort. We talked before she ever came to enlist in the army.
2007-05-20 13:08:39 · update #2
http://www.usarec.army.mil/im/formpub/REC_PUBS/R600_25.pdf
Looking at the regulation, I see no wrong doing. We did not have a relationship prior to her reporting to her first duty station. We had talked before and aquainted before I even came to recruiting duty, but did not engage in any prohibited activities while she was part of the recruiting process.
2007-05-20 14:09:41 · update #3
You use the phrase "my desk drawer". Did you buy the desk?
Your mistake was to keep personal documents at your work place.
Your complaint has no foundation other than your own stupidity. Go to your your commanding officer and face the regulations with out blaming some one else. Everything that has happened has been the result of your choices.
2007-05-20 09:34:16 · answer #1 · answered by kitchenheatindex 5 · 1⤊ 0⤋
While it is rude to go into someone else's desk, the number one thing you have to consider is that - your desk is NOT your desk. The desk is the property of your company and while you are able to USE the desk and keep 'personal' items in it... it is not truly yours nor do you have any more than a moral right to have others stay out. If a non-owner or managerial person goes into the desk and takes something it could be construed as theft; however since the desk is not yours that is where it become sticky. Since you are in the Army and this is not just a civilian employee/employer issue and a governmental issue it is worse. You really have no right, unfortunately and although this person sounds as if they have nothing better to do, they are apparently trying to do you in. Confront them; however keep items that you do not want others to get a hold of at home. Any way you look at it, the situation is sticky; however keep your paper trail and thank you for your service to our country.
Best of luck!
2007-05-20 10:05:32 · answer #2 · answered by 343 Remember 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Nope. You are wrong on ALL counts. Your desk is not your own it belongs to the Army. Anything in your desk is subject to searching at anytime.
About your wife. You are wrong there too. You cannot marry, date, sleep with, do anything at all with any kind of person you recruiting and then enlisted into the service. That should have been crystal clear in recruiter school. It does not make any difference what phase of training she is in now or any of the other crap you brought up. You married someone you recruited they can bring charges on you. YOu should have known better and it looks like you will be paying with a stripe or two and you will be losing your recruiter job and hitting the sand over in Iraq.
2007-05-20 10:42:31 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋
That is a serious crime on his part as a civilian and especially when one is in the military. I believed that is considered larceny, which is considered a felony offense. You do not have any problems b/c if something was happening between you and this women it took place over a year ago, which is considered statutory limit. He cannot press charges on you for anything in reference to that particular situation, but you can press charges on him. Don't allow him to push you around so put you foot down!
2007-05-20 09:38:24 · answer #4 · answered by Scuba 2 · 0⤊ 1⤋
I seem to recall fraternization rules concerning NCO's and soldiers. Not regularly enforced but still in the books. It would also be difficult to prove no impropriety because of the time frame.
2007-05-20 09:36:27 · answer #5 · answered by xtowgrunt 6 · 0⤊ 1⤋
you are at the mercy of the military,,,ordinary laws do not apply,,,you entered into an agreement with the us government by signing up,,,now you must forego all that is right,,,and hope the army will somehow see through his mischievious behavior....also you failed to disclose when your relationship started,,,,early on ,,then you broke the rules,,,but if just recently,,,you should be ok,,,,,you only know......
2007-05-20 09:34:22 · answer #6 · answered by rhardfrumnc 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋