If he knew we would be sinning in the future therefore we haven't had free will? How would his death have any bearing anyway? And if he did die for our sins why should we praise him now. The more you think about the christianity story the more absurd it becomes.
2007-05-20 06:57:52 · 12 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
Beverly-what absolute rubbish.
2007-05-20 07:03:32 · update #1
chrisgaf
"Wait... why do you say that someone's foreknowledge of something necessarily dictates that it will happen? If I am able to see in the future your free choice, how does my knowledge force you to make that choice? Explain."
If he died for our sins, how did he know anyone would sin after his death?I suppose he could have assumed-fair enough.
The very obsession with 'sins' and forgiveness is riduculous despite the free will issue? It is just a scare tactic to make people believe. How christians cannot see this is baffling to say the least?
It's all just nonsense.
2007-05-20 07:22:00 · update #2
Presumably because his father in heaven knows all...surely he would know that we would sin so... why sacrifice his own son for people he knew would sin and keep sinning no matter what?
2007-05-20 14:42:35 · answer #1 · answered by Afi 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Wait... why do you say that someone's foreknowledge of something necessarily dictates that it will happen? If I am able to see in the future your free choice, how does my knowledge force you to make that choice? Explain.
Your first question is a mystery... how could he? But you don't say he didn't. You simply ask how it happened.
His death would have bearing as being the fulfillment of scripture and the inauguration of the new covenant in which God said he would no longer regard sin. It would have bearing based on who the person is who died and who the one is who made the promise of what that death would mean.
Yeah, good question, why be glad if someone forgives you. He's God, right? So he has to forgive, right?... When you get a gift, don't you say thank you? If the deed done was extraordinary, don't you praise the person who did it? And these are just on the human level.
So, the more you think about the reasons you give for the absurdity of Christianity, the more absurd those reasons become.
2007-05-20 07:12:56 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
A ransom is something that is paid to provide for the release of someone who is held captive. Jesus paid our ransom to free us from sin, death, and hell. Throughout the books of Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, and Deuteronomy are found God's requirements for sacrifices. In Old Testament times, God commanded the Israelites to make animal sacrifices for substitutionary atonement; that is, an animal's death took the place of a person's death, death being the penalty for sin (Romans 6:23). Exodus 29:36a states, "Each day you must sacrifice a young bull as an offering for the atonement of sin."
God demands holiness (1 Peter 1:15-16). God's Law demands holiness. We cannot give God full holiness because of the sins we commit (Romans 3:23); therefore, God demands satisfaction of His Law. Sacrifices to Him satisfied the requirements. This is where Jesus comes in. Hebrews 9:12-15 tells us "Once for all time he took blood into that Most Holy Place, but not the blood of goats and calves. He took his own blood, and with it he secured our salvation forever. Under the old system, the blood of goats and bulls and the ashes of a young cow could cleanse people's bodies from ritual defilement. Just think how much more the blood of Christ will purify our hearts from deeds that lead to death so that we can worship the living God. For by the power of the eternal Spirit, Christ offered himself to God as a perfect sacrifice for our sins. That is why he is the one who mediates the new covenant between God and people, so that all who are invited can receive the eternal inheritance God has promised them. For Christ died to set them free from the penalty of the sins they had committed under that first covenant."
2007-05-20 07:06:31 · answer #3 · answered by Freedom 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
If JC were just a good person or even just the greatest prophet His death would not have really accomplished anything; however, if Jesus is really God Incarnate,then God has died for us in that fullness of human nature that He took up and that makes all the difference. Iwould not trust a personal god or God who would not bother to plunge himself into our human situation and mess by becoming one of us and one with us in our sufferings and hopes . Since we all experience death,I would only trust a God Who is willing and loving and real enough to embrace death with,because and for us. IMHO,only the God Who is one who would grapple with death is worthy of praise.
Foreknowledge is not predeterminism. One can foreknow something and still choose and free will is in no way abolished.
2007-05-20 07:13:42 · answer #4 · answered by James O 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
You are under the teachings of false leaders..
Jesus died for the sins of this world...
Jesus came to give:
THE LAWS OF ETERNAL JUDGEMENT
There are three sins in the bible: 1. forgiven 2. to be judged 3. sin that is never forgiven..
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2007-05-20 08:14:33 · answer #5 · answered by john 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
well I'm a christian deist, but I was once just a christian. So let's see....
knowing that man will sin doesn't mean that it's controlled for man to sin. To sin is many things, you still choose what you do and whether you commit sins or not, well, generally speaking.
Christ took man's sin and pretty much...took the bullet for them. He died for our sins so that we wouldn't have to.
You would still praise him because it wasn't just for the one time thing, remember he knew man was going to sin even more...his death is still working for those that believe in him.
2007-05-20 07:03:24 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋
Because God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten Son.
It's our choice if his death saves us or not..we have free will. We have to ask for forgiveness and believe that he died for our sins and rose again on the third day.
Christ was the ultimate sacrifice. He was perfect and sinless. Before him, people sacrificed the best animal out of their flock.
2007-05-20 07:02:32 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 1⤋
Jesus died for the sins of mankind, we have free will but most people do sin at some point. The point of it is, is that we can be forgiven.
We should praise Him because if He had not be sacrificed for our sins then we would have no forgiveness.
If someone saved your life, would you not thank them afterwards?
Essentially Jesus saved our lives, or at least our "afterlife".
2007-05-20 07:02:16 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 1⤋
He did know we would sin in the future. and we do have free will....He knew we would CHOOSE to sin.....so He knew....that it was either He come and die to save us all...or to let us die forever in hell eternally. we should praise Him..because He is God...and He deserves all the glory. we should also prais Him cuz He didnt have to die....but He did.
2007-05-20 11:09:04 · answer #9 · answered by Teenager 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Jesus died. He descended into Purgatory to free all those waiting to get to Heaven. When He freed them by opening the Gates of Heaven (also known as "The Pearly Gates"), He opened the gates for all of s so that we might enter Heaven.
2007-05-20 07:02:47 · answer #10 · answered by Atticus Finch 4 · 0⤊ 1⤋