what is the better 308?

Question

AR-10 or the M1A

which one is more reliable?
which one do you own and why? that is if you own one
which one is more accurate?

i know that almost all of the accuracy of a gun is in the barrell and the bullets but that's not the question the question is which one is more accurate

accuracy is totally in the hands of the shooter??? i get what your saying but you got it all wrong if i gave you a 9mm pistol and told you to shoot that pop can 100 yards away you couldnt do it but if i gave you a 9mm carbine you could do it no problem WHY? BECAUSE THE CARBINE IS MORE ACCURATE THAN THE PISTOL

Answer 1

They're both nice but ar-10 shoots better due to the gas system and it's easier to change mags and operate. I hate the m1a's safety it's junk. The gun's old world.
http://www.snipercountry.com/hottips/RifleSelectAR10M1A.htm
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?p=2757278
http://www.originaldissent.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1304
http://www.geocities.com/awatters2002/m1a/comparison.html

Answer 2

Your observation that one may not hit a target at a 100 yards with a pistol and could hit it with a carbine is not because the carbine is more accurate. Even in the same caliber, the carbine will have more range than the pistol every time.

More than anything, accuracy is a function of the shooter. Most guns are as accurate as the shooter. I believe that the M1-A, on the long run, may possible be more reliable than the AR-10 simply because it is made for that caliber whereas the AR-10 is modified from the AR-15, a 5.56 round. Of course, metallurgy being what it is nowadays, I may be wrong.

Which one do I own? The FAL.

Best.

H

Answer 3

Bound's hubby here:

I shoot service rifle category and because of that, if I want to shoot .308 I am limited to either the M1 (converted to .308) or the M1A/M14. I have both an M1 and M1A National Match in .308. But from this point on, I will not make reference to the M1 since that is not part of your question.

While I think the AR10 may be a bit more accurate than the M1A, I will take the M1A any day and everyday. With the M1A and 168 or 175 grain bullets I can consistently shoot about a 93-94% average from the 200 yard line to the 1000 yard line. While the AR10 has some design advantages and may be easier on recoil, it does not have the benefit of GI parts which can reduce the cost of parts.

I think both are equally reliable. Given a choice, I will take the M1A. Personally, I do not see (for me) a purpose for the AR10. For my kind of shooting, they are impractical. If I shoot service rifle, I can shoot the M1A all the way to a thousand yards. For match rifle, I built an AR15 "Space Gun" for about a third of the price of an AR10 and the ammo for the AR15, which is good to 600 yards, is significantly less expensive [cost must always be a factor, not only for the target rifle, but also for the ammunition].

If you are comparing a regular M1A to an AR10, accuracy-wise the AR10 will walk all over the M1A. However, if you are comparing an M1A National Match or Super Match to an AR10, the AR10 will have a run for it's money.

Good luck.

Answer 4

The accuracy is NOT all in the barrel. A good barrel is really good, but if it's not headspaced properly, the stock fits wrong, the chamber is cut wrong, or is cut different than the loads you feed it, it's gonna be all over the place.

As for the AR-10 vs. M1A, you didn't mention a manufacturer. That's like buying a car. A car is a car, but would you rather have a maserati or a yugo? All in all, I like the M1A better, as far as shooting goes. It's heavier, which makes it more stable. It's easy enough to work on, and you can get parts anywhere, although the same can be said of the AR. I HAVE HEARD, however that AR-10's are notorious for jamming. The M1A, however, would run if you poured wet cement into it.

Answer 5

Both can be made extremely accurate but for the money the AR-10 is a better gun. To get a competition M1A ready to go is gonna run you at least $1500. The AR-10 can be done for $1200. (neither price includes optics) I don't have any jamming problems with either gun. The AR is easier to load and reduces the recoil better despite being a lighter gun. The flinch people develop from shooting a hard hitting round can be devastating to your accuracy. Unless you want a service rifle I would go with the AR.

Answer 6

well i have never shot an AR-10 but i do own a M-14 from
Armscorp. it has a few tricks done to it but it is mostly stock
and will hit the 500 yard target {a 16''x16'' plate} over and over
and over. it has a Springfield Armory scope on it, after about 10 rounds it gets boring it's so easy to hit so i try to cut the same hole. by the way no i haven't done it yet lol!

Answer 7

Ive owned a Tikka Tactical T3 for 3 years now. It is the most sccurate rifle I have ever shot. Using Military M118NATO round I can group 2.5 inches at 900 yards no problem. I also Own an L1A1 .308....using the same M118 rounds from same lot numbers it groups 4.5 in at 900 yards.

Answer 8

i shoot bullseye comeption with pistol and reload all my rounds,i have a 308 bolt and niether of the AR-10 or M1A, but your accuracy is going to come from the tightest twist in the barell you can find,along with that you are going to have to find the ammunition that it likes to use,whether it is military or commercial makes a diffrence,so reliabilty is going to depend on that, by reloading you will be able to fine tune the rifle to shoot accurate or finding the right brand to use with the rate of twist that your barrel has.it all come down to ammunition,either the rifle will like it and function properly or it will prefer a diffrent brand of ammo to funtion at its best,its a fine line you walk fuction or accuracy,you can have both but you will have to find out what the rifle likes to eat!!!

Answer 9

Accuracy is totally in the hands of the shooter....Accuracy is totally dependent on the person firing the Firearm...