Is Global Warming REAL??

Question

I just watched Al Gores movie. and then... I watched the rebuttal's and arguments against his film.

i am wondering what the rest of you think.

I think it's an interesting debate....to say the least

Answer 1

The theory of man-made global warming is false. Anyone who believes otherwise has not investigated the evidence or is purposely remaining ignorant to the legitimate opposition to global warming. I have given up an one and a half hours to watch “An Inconvenient Truth” so I ask you to do the same and watch the movie detailing the opposition.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4499562022478442170&q=great+global+warming+swindle.
The video is controversial, I know but I consider An Inconvenient Truth to be jusr as controversial and so do these sources:
http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/financialpost/story.html?id=d0235a70-33f1-45b3-803b-829b1b3542ef&k=99551&p=1
http://www.cei.org/pdf/5539.pdf
And another video for those of you short on time: http://www.friendsofscience.org/index.php?ide=3
Some more general resources: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_warming_controversy
http://www.friendsofscience.org/index.php?ide=4
http://www.john-daly.com/

CO2 is not causing the globe to warm the opposite is true, the warming is increasing the atmospheric CO2. When the world heats it gradually increases the temperature of the oceans which serve as the largest CO2 sink. As the oceans heat up they release CO2 which is stored in them. The information comes from the same data Al Gore uses, the temperature always goes up before the concentration of CO2 goes up.
http://www.lavoisier.com.au/papers/articles/ninelieslaunch.pdf#search=%22vostok%20figure%20125%22
This is the entire record of temperature verses CO2 record. This is the same data used by Al Gore but anyone with a fifth grade education can see that temperature rises before CO2:
http://vortex.plymouth.edu/atmosphere/IceCores1.gif
The global warming crowd tends to hind this graph, they will only show graphs of the last 20 or so years in which CO2 appears to cause a temperature increase. However when you look at the full data set you see that the current warming trend is not the result of CO2, CO2 rises after temperature. The global warming crowd uses the zoomed in graph to mislead you also they tend to use thick lines on the graph so you can’t make out what rises first. As you can see the temperature rises first and then CO2 starts to skyrocket, that’s why graphs of only 20 years seem to show CO2 leading temperature.


CO2 makes up only .03% of our atmosphere. Water vapor, another greenhouse gas, makes up 1-4% of our atmosphere, this gas is acknowledged to be the main greenhouse gas. All human activities combined contribute only 6 Gigatons of CO2 to the atmosphere each year. Animals, through respiration, decomposition, etc contribute 150 Gigatons of CO2 to the atmosphere. So humans contribute only a small amount of CO2 to the atmosphere which is already in very small concentrations in the atmosphere.
http://oco.jpl.nasa.gov/science.html This is where my data came from, it is an interesting site, it displays the same graphics as Al Gore in his movie but it tells how low the human contribution is. So Al Gore is using the same data but coming to a different conclusion, who do you want to believe a politician with no scientific training or the NASA CO2 laboratory, a group of scientists who spend their entire careers studying CO2.

We know the greenhouse effect is real it is a necessary effect to keep our planet at a habitable temperature. However if our current warming is due to greenhouse gasses it would cause warming in the troposphere , but the troposphere is actually getting cooler.
http://wwwghcc.msfc.nasa.gov/temperature/. That points to other explanations to our current warming.

So what is causing our current warming, it is the sun.
http://web.dmi.dk/solar-terrestrial/space_weather/
http://www.aip.org/enews/physnews/2003/split/642-2.html
http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/060926_solar_activity.html
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2004/08/040803093903.htm
http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2003/17jan_solcon.htm
http://www.globalwarming.org/article.php?uid=900
The fact that only the earth’s surface is warming points to direct heating from the sun rather than heating due to greenhouse gasses. Also other planets in our solar system are warming pointing to a common cause of warming, that common cause being the sun.
http://www.livescience.com/environment/070312_solarsys_warming.html
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2007/02/070228-mars-warming.html
http://www.nasa.gov/vision/universe/solarsystem/mgs-092005.html
http://www.nasa.gov/vision/universe/solarsystem/mgs-092005-images.html
Another theory is that ocean currents play a role
http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2000-03/UoCS-Nrol-1903100.php

The global warming crowd says our glaciers are melting and animals will suffer this is another false claim.
http://www.co2science.org/scripts/CO2ScienceB2C/articles/V8/N46/EDIT.jsp
http://www.nationalcenter.org/NPA235.html
http://www.worldclimatereport.com/
http://www.globalwarming.org/article.php?uid=192
http://www.moonbattery.com/archives/2005/03/growing_glacier.html

The global warming crowd also insists our seas are rising due to global warming, however this is not entirely correct. Seas in certain areas are rising, there is no global sea rise. The seas have been rising ever since the last ice age: http://globalwarmingart.com/wiki/Image:Holocene_Sea_Level_png
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Post-Glacial_Sea_Level.png
These two sources show that sea level increase now has actually leveled off from a very steep rise for the past 20 thousand years. For proof of this look here:
http://www.climateark.org/articles/1999/markhotd.htm
A mark left by Sir James Clark Ross, an Antarctic explorer, in 1841 is still visible. Not only that but the mark was placed in 1841 to show how high the sea was, not only is the mark visible it is 30cm above current sea levels. Now it is possible that the mark was placed at high tide and the picture taken at low, but even then the mark would still be above current sea levels. The seas have risen dramatically over the past thousand years not due in any part to us. If you want proof of that take a look at one of the dozens of ancient underwater cities that spot the globe. When these cities were built they were on land now they are deep underwater: http://www.abc.net.au/foreign/content/2004/s1107203.htm
This shows a dramatic increase in sea level during human time but long before the world became industrialized.

The global warming crowd also claims a scientific consensus on the issue, this is wrong in two ways. One, there is no consensus, this is a false claim to make you believe in global warming by suppressing the opposition. http://www.oism.org/pproject/s33p36.htm
Also stating new research many prominent scientists have reversed their opinions on the legitimacy of man-made global warming.
http://epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Files.View&FileStore_id=c5e16731-3c64-481c-9a36-d702baea2a42
Second, even if there was a consensus it would mean nothing, science is not politics, you don’t vote on theories to determine their legitimacy.
Here’s 21 pages of websites that disagree with global warming.
http://www.climatechangedebate.org/documents/CCD_read.pdf
The thought that the only scientists who disagree with global warming are paid by oil companies is simply a stupid statement with no reality. This is the most illogical argument by people in support of global warming. Aside from being completely false it begs another question: Who pays global warming supporters? The answer is big environmental agencies that make millions off of global warming each year by teaching, publishing books, and selling environmentally clean products.

The IPCC is the main supporter of global warming, their statements are defended blindly by people who don’t want to admit that global warming is not real. People will claim that they took into account natural sources of CO2, they didn’t. Take a look for yourself:
http://www.ipcc.ch/activity/srccs/index.htm. That is the latest IPCC report, read the entire report, do a search of the documents, there is absolutely no mention of natural sources of CO2. The natural sources have been completely ignored. Also people will claim that the IPCC took the sun into account in their report, this is not entirely correct, while the sun is mentioned the report it’s effects have not been accurately represented.
http://www.john-daly.com/forcing/moderr.htm. The IPCC did not take into account the Svensmark factor. This would greatly reduce the effect of solar radiation on the earth. Look back up to the solar resources to see the effect of the sun correctly represented.
Also allegations have been by IPCC scientists who disagreed with the IPCC statements. They say that their research was censored or taken out of the IPCC report. This is not the first time the IPCC has lied, they forged the famous “hockey stick” graph, which later resulted in a reissuing of the IPCC report.
Here’s another source that disagrees with the IPCC: http://rpc.senate.gov/_files/Sept1004GlobalWarmingPG.pdf
And another: http://www.sepp.org/Archive/NewSEPP/ipccreview.htm
And another: http://www.john-daly.com/guests/un_ipcc.htm

Quotes form politicians, CEO’s, and others are not proof of global warming, they issue these statements to get votes and customers. Scientists are able to get published and get time on the media by supporting global warming. The IPCC continually lies and misrepresents data so they keep their jobs.

In regards to the precautionary principle that says we can only help if we switch over to alternative energy, this idea is not correct. While this may seem legitimate it only helps the first world, third world countries can not afford to switch to the more expensive energy options. Also the US currently spends 4 billion dollars a year on global warming research which could be better spent on research for disease or to fight poverty. For an excellent example of how the precautionary principle is harmful you do not need to look further than DDT. This pesticide was cheap and incredibly effective but it was banned because of it harmful effects on egg shells. Now thousands of people die every year in third world countries because of malaria, a disease that could be easily controlled with DDT.

I hope anyone who believes in global warming they will take a look at the resources I provided. These resources should convince you that global warming is not man-made, it is caused by cycles in the earths climate. If you are not convinced I hope you at least take a new look at global warming as an unproven idea. Remember that global warming is big business for anyone who aligns themselves with it.

I could not go this entire post without mentioning global cooling.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_cooling
http://www.michaelkubacki.com/cooling.htm
In the 1970’s it was claimed that there was a consensus on the fact that the world was headed into an ice age. We have seen once before how damaging a false claim about our climate change can be to our world. Most of the global warming crowd does not want you to know about this scare because it is so similar to the scare today. Government panels were formed and claimed the world was headed to an ice age, evidence poured in supporting the claim, a consensus was claimed, then the whole issue just faded away. That is what will happen with the false scare of global warming.

Answer 2

Somewhat. Its sort of being proven, but then the question goes to WHY is it warming up.

Of course the liberals claim it to be humanities, or more particularly the USA's fault for releasing carbon emissions, despite the fact the USA actually has some of the most PRISTINE environmental conditions and regulations compared to many other developing countries. You will never see these liberals complain about Eastern European countries that pollute infinitley, nor China, nor India, nor any other countries which make the USA look as clean as a bar of soap.

The other theory is that warming is caused NATURALLY. I recently watched a show on the History channel about how there was a NATURAL heating of the Earth 10,000yrs or so ago and literally neolithic Europe's landmass was reduced almost by 50%. Ever wonder why 3/4 of the Earth is water? Because there has been increases in the temp ever BEFORE we ventured into the Industrial Era; the poles have been melting on and off for thousands of years.

I'm not sure on either, but don't be so quick to buy into Gore. He has a lot at stake polticially. Anyone want to challenge that this isn't natural heating?

Answer 3

NO! And Albert (6) Arnold (6) Gore Jr (6) is trying to tie the world together under the Kyoto tready and prepare for the coming of the Dark Prince. Al Gore has millions invested in Oil, in a trust fund left to him by his father. The rest of his money came from the tobacco and cattle farms, also two causes of gloabal warming. Gloabal Warming is a form of reglion for those that do not want to believe in a God.

Answer 4

An Inconvenient Truth is based pretty much exclusively on well studied and documented science. There are some questionable parts of the movie but by and large it is an accurate representation of accepted fact.

There are several rebuttals but they fail to undermine any of the key points that are made. The primary rebuttal often hones in on the so called 'hockey stick graph' and points out that the Medieval Warm Period and Little Ice Age aren't accurately depicted. Even if they were accurately included within the graph the overall shape remains unchanged and the dramatic rise in temperatures in the last 200 years isn't affected at all.

I've looked in great detail at several hundred of the arguments that have been put forward to refute global warming; some of them are truly ridiculous but there are some well founded scientifically based ones as well.

Whilst there is genuine cause to question some of the scientific findings, particularly the way in which some of the data was obtained and has been extrapolated, the underlying causes and effects of climate change can't be dismissed.

In short, never in the whole of known history have temperatures risen even close to the rate at which they're rising now (15.6 times faster than the previous 'record') and not since humans first populated the planet have levels of all greenhouse gases been so high.

I'd just like to add that I hope you didn't watch 'The Great Global Warming Swindle' as that really is nonsense. There are far better programmes and documents available that can be used to question the science of global warming and climate change. Even if I was a global warming skeptic I'd be embarassed to quote anything from 'Swindle'.

Answer 5

Climate change is real. To say that global warming is real and reversible only by human intervention is very short-sighted and irresponsible. There are many factors that contribute to climate change. Thousands of years ago, North America was largely covered with ice. Where is that ice now? It melted. When? Thousands of years ago. And without the benefit of smoke-belching power plants, fossil-fueled cars, and greenhouse gas emissions. And with way fewer humans. We need to be responsible with our use of natural resources, but we must also remember that many uncontrollable forces are at work controlling Earth's climates.

Answer 6

1) Yes it's real.
2) Just ask any Martian. Or Earthlings that measure the fluctuations in Solar output.
3) The snow line in the Rockies is still 1,000 feet lower than it was during the last warming period during the Middle Ages.
4) We must all stop ManBearPig.
5) Can I interest you in the purchase of Carbon Offsets to go with that baloney sandwich?

Answer 7

You know...one day i asked a similar question of a priest whether God was real or not the answer i got was:
"There is no proof either way, but considering what you are facing if you do not accept Jesus Christ as your savior(hell), do you want to take that chance?"

Questions are always more powerful than answers, and the same question can be asked about global warming.
the ironic thing is the same people who act as if God is real because of this question, are the same one denying global warming.

Answer 8

Of course it's real. There is OVERWHELMING data from leading scientists throughout the world supporting that global warming is occuring. These scientists are extremely intelligent people. If there was only one study showing that climate change was occuring, I would challenge the results, but since there is so much data showing that global warming is occuring it is safe to say that global warming is occuring.

In being a biology major, I have nothing nice to say about skeptics. So all I will say is that skeptics should take a class some science classes on global warming, climate change. etc.. Maybe even read a book on biogeochemistry...

Answer 9

oh yes it's real... just not caused by man, as the earth has gone through climate extremes( much worse than any predicted for our future) in the past; that make what al and the boys are worrying about look like a flea bite on a freckle-faced, redheads shoulder....

Answer 10

just for fun i asked a question in polls and surveys and again in religion
who thought Global warming was a lie ,and who was religious ,

granted many people believed in God and also believed in climate change ,

but
the fact emerged that ALL of the people who denied Global warming ,who said it was a hoax ,were without any exceptions ,religious


FACT OR FICTION
many North Americans are used to fiction and they feel more comfortable with fairytales instead of the truth,

Many blindly believe that our fate is in Gods hands ,and their focus is on the beautifull heaven that awaits ,they are not to concerned with the world their children will inherrit

there may come a time that for the sake of our survival the two views will be seperated in to Enemies and friends of the planet

World leaders are not concerned with the well being of the masses ,on the contrary .it was stated at a conference in Copenhagen,in 1998,by An American statesman , that the Agenda demanded a decrease in the world population of 60%,and you cannot achieve this if you start saving everybody.

scientists who work for politicians ,get paid by these politicians and they have downplayed the facts because solutions are expensive and means change

and change effects many peoples incomes,and upsets profit margins,so most of the world is kept in the dark of the real things that are going on.for political and economic reasons

HOWEVER CLIMATE CHANGE IS FACT FOR MILLIONS
Global warming is a very complex collection of many effects

this text only covers some aspects of global warming mainly man made desertification

industrial contamination ,the contaminating effects of the cities ,is another story

there are natural cycles in the planets life
but mans existance has its effects,and this is increasing with overpopulation,putting strains on Natural resources and increasing contaminations as well as destructions of essential componants the ensure living conditions for all life forms

in North Africa,India,Mexico ,millions of people are effected by land loss and desertification and some have died as a result

in china, thousands of what used to be farmers are running for their lives from the dust storms that have burried their towns and turned their lands into dessert,

,the Sahara is growing by 7 kilometers a year
and many of the desserts we know are a results of mans actions ,and they are increasing ,not getting less ,in the dinosaurs days ,there were very few desserts.

collectively this planet is drying up because of bad farming practices like,over grazing and fertilizers,

each degree rise in temperature means 10%crop loss

and there is less and less water (because of deforestation),to irrigate this production ,
and there are less and less farmers to do it..
and there are 70 million more peole every year that have to eat and drink and wash

who are overpumping deep carbon aquifiers
who are plowing more and more unstable lands because they have lost so many million hectares to desertification ,
because of bad farming practises ,such as using fertilizers and heavy machinary or over grazing

RISING SEAS
The northpole is melting ,and we will know it without ice in our life times.
this does not affect the sea level because it is ice that is already in the water.but the melting ice from Green land and the south pole ,are another matter.



http://www.greenpeace.org/international/...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/natur...



if forrest are being exchanged for ashalt,concrete and desserts
what is gonna keep this planet habitable for us

We as humanity can behave in a less stressful manner as far as the Environment is concerned ,but it will mean global co operation between all countries ,and taking into account human nature and the world politics ,it is unlikely that this will happen, Source(s) Lester E Brown is the director and founder of the global institute of Environment in the United states .he has compiled a report based on all the satalite information available from NASA,and all the information that has
come from Universities and American embassies WORLD WIDE ,
his little book--a planet under stress , Plan B has been trans lated into many languages and won the best book award in 2003

Answer 11

yes. ladies back then wore bloomers
then they start wearing those boxer short underwear (wutever u call them)
then underwear.
it just basically gets smaller as the world gets warmer.
now some ppl wear thongs. lol

just a lil joke