why did God had to send Jesus (a part of himself or trinity or etc.) only to forgive mankind ?

Question

And when the jews tortured him, were they beating a God or prophet? if they(small people) were beating a God, how and why this could be? For example God could send a sheep for them to torture(like Abraham). He didnt like Jesus ?? Could somebody explain me why he didnt just forgive?? and finally I didnt do anything wrong. Why did Jesus get tortured for me or for Adams fault?? Can a God or part of a God be tortured to death??

Isnt God, perfect and able to do what he wants. What does it mean "only a sinless,perfect human sacriface...etc". You talk like, there was no other way for him. If he created everything and Satan himself, and if he is able to do anything, he could have found a different way. What way ?? He didnt have to find a way even. After all, we are talking about God himself. If he unable against Satan this way. No. That cannot be.

Answer 1

First... the trinity is a false doctrine.

John 3:16 Says God the Father sent his Son... he didn't send himself.

Justice had to be satisfied... Someone who never sinned had to take our sins upon us... only a perfect person(indeed... God's only begotten son) had to suffer the price we as imperfect being would have paid.

This is the Atonement.

Answer 2

God did not send Jesus to save mankind from their sins much more in the way he died and resurrect to life back. This was gross lie ever made by the religions. Matthew 15: 24" I was sent only for the lost sheep of Israel."
His main purpose was to collect all the Jews together and rebuild the lost glory of Israel. The reason why Romans have to see to it that Jesus will die humbly on the cross because they did not want to happen to them what happened in Egypt.The Jews on the other hand have to discredit Jesus for being their Messiah, because aside from failing to make the Jews bond all together, he divided them by showing things that the Jews did not accept him to be their Messiah. First, instead of telling his disciples from respecting the Sabbath Observation, he even defend them by giving the experience of David as an excuse or justification including the sheep that may fall in a ravine on a Sabbath day. He made it worse by claiming he was the Lord of the Sabbath.
Christians claim that Jesus was the Son of God which is not true. 2Samuel 7:13-14 will explain to you how one of David's descendants can be called God's Son and He the Father. It will also explain why Jesus was punished by the rods and floggings of his own men.
It is utterly stupid for God to go down to earth, take human form and pose as the Son and sacrifice himself to suffer and be killed to forgive those who sins against Him. If He flooded the world of Noah and burn Soddom and Gomorrah for the sins of men, there is no reason for Him not to do the same for the same cause. The religions claim that it was for the sins of Adam and Eve which long ago before the time of Jesus those sins carried through generations have been forgiven already after the Jews were taken out of Egypt.
Read Deuteronomy 24:16, Ezekiel 18:3-26 and Jeremiah 31:29-30.
The Christian religions have the greatest lie ever told.
Read again your New Testament. Digest fully what Jesus have claimed for himself regarding his coming here on earth and compare to what his writers and the religions are saying about him. Did he say he come in peace or division? Do you know how many Christian religions are here and each is saying theirs is the only way to heaven.? Did he not warn his disciples that they have to watch out, for many deceivers will come in his name and will say that he is the Christ?
Do you have to believe that the New Testament we are reading is the real New Testament? Read the Book of Jeremiah 31:31-34 and see how the New Testament of God will come to the world.

Answer 3

Most of the major religions who pretend that there is a God-Creator of the universe believe with variations in a same sort of God. This seems to prove that the principle of God has been created by the human spirit.
We have not a single scientific prove that there exists a species of a presence of one God or the presence of more Gods or a system of Gods. About God we don't know anything at all. Religious people just want to be eternal and therefore they invent and have invented innumerous more or less intelligent ideas, often against all sense, about their God, they want that he leads them to that uncertainty of their totally invented eternal life.
So there is not a single serious proof that Jesus was sent by
your invented God. Joshua (Jesus) has "sent" himself. By the way your representation of Joshua is not in conformity with the texts you can read about him and with the opinion people had about him who knew him.
Most of the major religions that pretend that there is a God-Creator of the universe believe with variations in a same sort of God. This seems to prove that the human spirit has created the principle of God.
We have not a single scientific prove that there exists a species of a presence of one God or the presence of more Gods or a system of Gods. About God we don't know anything at all. Religious people just want to be eternal and therefore they invent and have invented innumerous more or less intelligent ideas, often against all sense, about their God. Their main interest is, that they want that he lead them to that uncertainty of their totally invented eternal life.
One of these invented ideas is the principle of an existing demon responsible for all the evil in the world. Responsible for the evil in the world are men and not the so welcome idea of a demon.
So we have a Godfather, a Holy Spirit, a Godson, a Godmother and a Main Demon. Just like the Royals in the UK, here the goddish Royals. And the Godmother was a virgin and had four sons and at least two daughters (go and look it is written down in the new testaments).
And then there are the Archangels and the angels: the grand-dukes and the dukes. Not to forget the devils, one devil for every kind of sin, I suppose. The hierarchy goes on with the
the Saints and the Sanctimonious: the counts and the viscounts, the sorceresses and the sorcerers. At the glorious end the souls of normal people in paradise, or in the purgatory and those in hell: such as in real life people who have a good life, those who suffer sometimes and those who suffer their whole life.
And Godfather has created all this. My congratulations. I estimate that this holy hierarchy is comparable to the creations of our best fairy-teller. And now I let up to you to make your opinion about those who believe all this.
Nevertheless I am pleased that I have grown up in a Christian society and in a Christian culture with their moral, social and intellectual sides.

Answer 4

The crucifition of Jesus Christ was the Supreme Sacrifice. It was Gods gift of love to mankind. He gave his only begotten son, so "whosever believeth in him shall not perish but shall have everlasting life. " He died to save our souls. "For the wages of sin is death" and the gift of God is everlasting life. But do not despair for Christ Christians, because on the third day he arose and ascended into heaven to sit at the righthand of his father. This is the Holy Trinity; the Father, The Son, and the Holy Spirit. He shall return to this earth in the second coming. When ? No man knows. God has named the day of Judgement in the book of Revelations when all questions will be answered. It is the greatest story ever told. God wrote it from beginning to end. He is "Alpha and Omega," the beginning and the end. Everything man does not know, God knows, because he is God.

Answer 5

The first sin had to be a very serious matter, Adam also had to fully understand that it was indeed very serious, and the sin also had to be committed with the full consent of Adam's will.

Finally, the consequences of that first sin had to be such that a simple apology, a pledge of repentance, and God's subsequent forgiveness, would still not be sufficient to make all things whole again.

Based on all of the above, we know that the first sin resulted in Adam's total rejection of God, and his "throwing in" with Satan, against God.

Adam even went so far as to transfer dominion of the whole earth, which God had earlier given him, over to Satan.

And since Adam enjoyed free will, God permitted him to make these choices, and to suffer the eternal consequences.

Once all this was done, Satan turned on Adam, and made a slave of him and his descendents, because, as everyone knows, all the offspring of a slave automatically belong to the master.

This presented a serious problem, because man had no ability to overcome the supernatural dominion that Satan now exercised over him.

Furthermore, God was under no obligation to provide his supernatural graces to his enemies.

Deprived of God's grace, Eden soon disappeared, Adam and Eve began to age, suffer, and die, and the world became an increasingly more hostile and forbidding place.

Mankind lived under constant threat from Satan, who was given the power of death over them, according to their free will choice, and according to God's perfect justice.

But this is not what God had in mind when he created man, so God promised to eventually send a redeemer to destroy Satan's evil dominion, forgive sins, defeat death, and restore all things.

That is exactly what Jesus did.

And the only reason Jesus could do it, when no other human ever could, was because Jesus was never "stained" by sin ... and Satan had no power at all, over one without sin.

Under God's most basic law, one without sin is not liable to die. (This was the flip-side of the same law that Adam broke, when he sinned.)

Jesus permitted Satan and his minions, the Jews and the Romans, to unjustly put him to death, knowing full well that this was the only way Satan's evil dominion could be legally destroyed, as no one, not even the devil, had the authority to take the life of a sinless man, let alone the only son of God.

Once Jesus died, Satan was judged for his great sin, stripped of all that he had earlier gained from Adam's fall, and left destitute.

Jesus was raised from the dead and appointed the new head of all mankind. God was now more than willing to forgive man's sins, and our redemption was truly at hand.

Now, anyone who rejects Satan and swears faithful allegiance to Jesus (typically through baptism) is able to have their sins forgiven, become a living temple of the Holy Spirit, and among other things, also become a member of God's own family.

The church carries on Christ's great work of redemption in the world today.

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Answer 6

there's a music devil sings... how does it flow? "by no potential gonna furnish you with up, by no potential gonna allow you down..." some thing like that. besides, devil tried tempting God because Jesus, no matter if God, became nevertheless, in a experience, a guy. Jesus did not percentage an same innovations as God, and no matter if he's and became God, he's not fairly an same entity. So, devil, because he's an smug fool, reported, "allow's supply this a shot." And he tried to expose the words of God hostile to his son. although, Jesus defeated the devil in a mess round contest, and were given a mess round of gold... wait, incorrect tale.

Answer 7

God gave us freedom of choice to pick Jesus or not.....He even gives us the 11th hour to make the choice. The Jews didn't do all of this by themselves. Mankind thru the ages has put the nails in his feet and hands and the crown of thorns o his head.

Answer 8

No, Jesus was sent to taste death for all of us so that we can know that death is not the end of you ... after all, He came back.

Jesus didn't die so that God would forgive us, He died so that we would understand that our sins were already forgiven.

Answer 9

I thought it was the Romans who tortured the character Jesus.

You need to reread that book of fiction again.

Answer 10

Abraham never tortured any sheep!!! You obviously haven't done any research...