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tell me what you think about global warming, and how the media is over-doing it, actually making it worst, and if they didnt make is worst, How would we know WHEN to stop, Is this real.. Or a hoax?? tell me what ya think...

2007-05-19 03:59:30 · 11 answers · asked by BEautiful_Disaster 2 in Environment Global Warming

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The theory of man-made global warming is false. Anyone who believes otherwise has not investigated the evidence or is purposely remaining ignorant to the legitimate opposition to global warming. I have given up an one and a half hours to watch “An Inconvenient Truth” so I ask you to do the same and watch the movie detailing the opposition.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4499562022478442170&q=great+global+warming+swindle.
The video is controversial, I know but I consider An Inconvenient Truth to be jusr as controversial and so do these sources:
http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/financialpost/story.html?id=d0235a70-33f1-45b3-803b-829b1b3542ef&k=99551&p=1
http://www.cei.org/pdf/5539.pdf
And another video for those of you short on time: http://www.friendsofscience.org/index.php?ide=3
Some more general resources: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_warming_controversy
http://www.friendsofscience.org/index.php?ide=4
http://www.john-daly.com/

CO2 is not causing the globe to warm the opposite is true, the warming is increasing the atmospheric CO2. When the world heats it gradually increases the temperature of the oceans which serve as the largest CO2 sink. As the oceans heat up they release CO2 which is stored in them. The information comes from the same data Al Gore uses, the temperature always goes up before the concentration of CO2 goes up.
http://www.lavoisier.com.au/papers/articles/ninelieslaunch.pdf#search=%22vostok%20figure%20125%22
This is the entire record of temperature verses CO2 record. This is the same data used by Al Gore but anyone with a fifth grade education can see that temperature rises before CO2:
http://vortex.plymouth.edu/atmosphere/IceCores1.gif
The global warming crowd tends to hind this graph, they will only show graphs of the last 20 or so years in which CO2 appears to cause a temperature increase. However when you look at the full data set you see that the current warming trend is not the result of CO2, CO2 rises after temperature. The global warming crowd uses the zoomed in graph to mislead you also they tend to use thick lines on the graph so you can’t make out what rises first. As you can see the temperature rises first and then CO2 starts to skyrocket, that’s why graphs of only 20 years seem to show CO2 leading temperature.


CO2 makes up only .03% of our atmosphere. Water vapor, another greenhouse gas, makes up 1-4% of our atmosphere, this gas is acknowledged to be the main greenhouse gas. All human activities combined contribute only 6 Gigatons of CO2 to the atmosphere each year. Animals, through respiration, decomposition, etc contribute 150 Gigatons of CO2 to the atmosphere. So humans contribute only a small amount of CO2 to the atmosphere which is already in very small concentrations in the atmosphere.
http://oco.jpl.nasa.gov/science.html This is where my data came from, it is an interesting site, it displays the same graphics as Al Gore in his movie but it tells how low the human contribution is. So Al Gore is using the same data but coming to a different conclusion, who do you want to believe a politician with no scientific training or the NASA CO2 laboratory, a group of scientists who spend their entire careers studying CO2.

We know the greenhouse effect is real it is a necessary effect to keep our planet at a habitable temperature. However if our current warming is due to greenhouse gasses it would cause warming in the troposphere , but the troposphere is actually getting cooler.
http://wwwghcc.msfc.nasa.gov/temperature/. That points to other explanations to our current warming.

So what is causing our current warming, it is the sun.
http://web.dmi.dk/solar-terrestrial/space_weather/
http://www.aip.org/enews/physnews/2003/split/642-2.html
http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/060926_solar_activity.html
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2004/08/040803093903.htm
http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2003/17jan_solcon.htm
http://www.globalwarming.org/article.php?uid=900
The fact that only the earth’s surface is warming points to direct heating from the sun rather than heating due to greenhouse gasses. Also other planets in our solar system are warming pointing to a common cause of warming, that common cause being the sun.
http://www.livescience.com/environment/070312_solarsys_warming.html
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2007/02/070228-mars-warming.html
http://www.nasa.gov/vision/universe/solarsystem/mgs-092005.html
http://www.nasa.gov/vision/universe/solarsystem/mgs-092005-images.html
Another theory is that ocean currents play a role
http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2000-03/UoCS-Nrol-1903100.php

The global warming crowd says our glaciers are melting and animals will suffer this is another false claim.
http://www.co2science.org/scripts/CO2ScienceB2C/articles/V8/N46/EDIT.jsp
http://www.nationalcenter.org/NPA235.html
http://www.worldclimatereport.com/
http://www.globalwarming.org/article.php?uid=192
http://www.moonbattery.com/archives/2005/03/growing_glacier.html

The global warming crowd also insists our seas are rising due to global warming, however this is not entirely correct. Seas in certain areas are rising, there is no global sea rise. The seas have been rising ever since the last ice age: http://globalwarmingart.com/wiki/Image:Holocene_Sea_Level_png
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Post-Glacial_Sea_Level.png
These two sources show that sea level increase now has actually leveled off from a very steep rise for the past 20 thousand years. For proof of this look here:
http://www.climateark.org/articles/1999/markhotd.htm
A mark left by Sir James Clark Ross, an Antarctic explorer, in 1841 is still visible. Not only that but the mark was placed in 1841 to show how high the sea was, not only is the mark visible it is 30cm above current sea levels. Now it is possible that the mark was placed at high tide and the picture taken at low, but even then the mark would still be above current sea levels. The seas have risen dramatically over the past thousand years not due in any part to us. If you want proof of that take a look at one of the dozens of ancient underwater cities that spot the globe. When these cities were built they were on land now they are deep underwater: http://www.abc.net.au/foreign/content/2004/s1107203.htm
This shows a dramatic increase in sea level during human time but long before the world became industrialized.

The global warming crowd also claims a scientific consensus on the issue, this is wrong in two ways. One, there is no consensus, this is a false claim to make you believe in global warming by suppressing the opposition. http://www.oism.org/pproject/s33p36.htm
Also stating new research many prominent scientists have reversed their opinions on the legitimacy of man-made global warming.
http://epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Files.View&FileStore_id=c5e16731-3c64-481c-9a36-d702baea2a42
Second, even if there was a consensus it would mean nothing, science is not politics, you don’t vote on theories to determine their legitimacy.
Here’s 21 pages of websites that disagree with global warming.
http://www.climatechangedebate.org/documents/CCD_read.pdf
The thought that the only scientists who disagree with global warming are paid by oil companies is simply a stupid statement with no reality. This is the most illogical argument by people in support of global warming. Aside from being completely false it begs another question: Who pays global warming supporters? The answer is big environmental agencies that make millions off of global warming each year by teaching, publishing books, and selling environmentally clean products.

The IPCC is the main supporter of global warming, their statements are defended blindly by people who don’t want to admit that global warming is not real. People will claim that they took into account natural sources of CO2, they didn’t. Take a look for yourself:
http://www.ipcc.ch/activity/srccs/index.htm. That is the latest IPCC report, read the entire report, do a search of the documents, there is absolutely no mention of natural sources of CO2. The natural sources have been completely ignored. Also people will claim that the IPCC took the sun into account in their report, this is not entirely correct, while the sun is mentioned the report it’s effects have not been accurately represented.
http://www.john-daly.com/forcing/moderr.htm. The IPCC did not take into account the Svensmark factor. This would greatly reduce the effect of solar radiation on the earth. Look back up to the solar resources to see the effect of the sun correctly represented.
Also allegations have been by IPCC scientists who disagreed with the IPCC statements. They say that their research was censored or taken out of the IPCC report. This is not the first time the IPCC has lied, they forged the famous “hockey stick” graph, which later resulted in a reissuing of the IPCC report.
Here’s another source that disagrees with the IPCC: http://rpc.senate.gov/_files/Sept1004GlobalWarmingPG.pdf
And another: http://www.sepp.org/Archive/NewSEPP/ipccreview.htm
And another: http://www.john-daly.com/guests/un_ipcc.htm

Quotes form politicians, CEO’s, and others are not proof of global warming, they issue these statements to get votes and customers. Scientists are able to get published and get time on the media by supporting global warming. The IPCC continually lies and misrepresents data so they keep their jobs.

In regards to the precautionary principle that says we can only help if we switch over to alternative energy, this idea is not correct. While this may seem legitimate it only helps the first world, third world countries can not afford to switch to the more expensive energy options. Also the US currently spends 4 billion dollars a year on global warming research which could be better spent on research for disease or to fight poverty. For an excellent example of how the precautionary principle is harmful you do not need to look further than DDT. This pesticide was cheap and incredibly effective but it was banned because of it harmful effects on egg shells. Now thousands of people die every year in third world countries because of malaria, a disease that could be easily controlled with DDT.

I hope anyone who believes in global warming they will take a look at the resources I provided. These resources should convince you that global warming is not man-made, it is caused by cycles in the earths climate. If you are not convinced I hope you at least take a new look at global warming as an unproven idea. Remember that global warming is big business for anyone who aligns themselves with it.

I could not go this entire post without mentioning global cooling.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_cooling
http://www.michaelkubacki.com/cooling.htm
In the 1970’s it was claimed that there was a consensus on the fact that the world was headed into an ice age. We have seen once before how damaging a false claim about our climate change can be to our world. Most of the global warming crowd does not want you to know about this scare because it is so similar to the scare today. Government panels were formed and claimed the world was headed to an ice age, evidence poured in supporting the claim, a consensus was claimed, then the whole issue just faded away. That is what will happen with the false scare of global warming.

2007-05-19 04:25:46 · answer #1 · answered by Darwin 4 · 2 4

It's not a hoax but it's not what they make it appear either. Global warming exists - that's true - but it's old news.
I once made some calculations and discovered that there is something like (I don't remember the exact figures) 44 cubic miles of atmosphere for every man, woman, and child on earth. Now, there are some of these people who are going to be driving SUV's and burning incandescent lights and so on, but it's hard for me to believe that a family of four, who has a combined atmosphere of 176 cubic miles, can alter that atmospheric space negatively or positively, even if it were a closed space and non-dynamic. So my answer is that when you're old and gray - how ever long from now that will be - you're going to be living much like you are right now. You might be getting your power from the sun, and hopefully that will be the case, but you won't have drowned because you're home was swamped by rising sea water.

2007-05-19 05:02:56 · answer #2 · answered by 55Spud 5 · 0 1

global warming is a serious issue, yet no one is really stepping up to do something about it. people depend on others to fix the problem, yet we're all the ones who are causing it. i noticed this too; it's starting to get cooler outside than hotter. it's almost the end of may and it's only about 14-16 degrees maximum here. lasy year & yeard before, the temperature in MARCH was above 18 degrees.

ps; i think everyone should see "an inconvenient truth"

2007-05-19 07:39:10 · answer #3 · answered by Santos 6 · 0 0

Global warming isn't a hoax or a myth. It's a natural cyclical event that takes place every few thousand years.
The problem is that man's "industrial revolution" of these past 150 years has altered the natural cycle of events. Our smoke-belching factories and vehicle emissions from millions of cars has changed the way things are supposed to happen in nature. -RKO- 05/19/07

2007-05-19 07:25:50 · answer #4 · answered by -RKO- 7 · 1 0

I was just talking this over yesterday with a friend at work, and the bottom line is that we really don't know what to believe. You see, I've heard the opposite of the so-called global warming from those claiming that we are moving closer day by day to an "ice-age." And here's what makes it even more confusing, the so-called experts claim that this "global-warming" trend is exactly what precedes the coming of an "ice-age."

2007-05-19 04:13:26 · answer #5 · answered by soulguy85 6 · 1 2

Global warming debunked
By ANDREW SWALLOW - The Timaru Herald | Saturday, 19 May 2007

Climate change will be considered a joke in five years time, meteorologist Augie Auer told the annual meeting of Mid Canterbury Federated Farmers in Ashburton this week.

Man's contribution to the greenhouse gases was so small we couldn't change the climate if we tried, he maintained.

"We're all going to survive this. It's all going to be a joke in five years," he said.

A combination of misinterpreted and misguided science, media hype, and political spin had created the current hysteria and it was time to put a stop to it.

"It is time to attack the myth of global warming," he said.

More at link....

Source(s):

http://www.stuff.co.nz/timaruherald/4064...

2007-05-19 08:21:02 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

I think no one is overdoing it. I've known about global warming my whole life, and it scares me. I'm HAPPY that people are finally paying attention. We don't even know what lives in the dephs of our oceans, we still discover life when we're not wasting money exploring space. What makes us think we even have an idea what will happen as the world changes? We know what has happened, we don't know how quickly it happened, we don't know exactly how it affected animals previously, and we have no idea of realizing how much it will affect our technology dependent world.

It's not a hoax, it's a scary reality and I hope to the Lord people find a way to control it before we kill ourselves in the long run.

2007-05-19 04:37:56 · answer #7 · answered by sakira_starwolf 6 · 0 3

Well I personally think that the earth goes into cycles (like a lot of people).
Big warming/cooling cycles, and now the earth is just in the cycle of heating up. After a while we'll probably die off, and another ice age will come and the whole thing will start again.
But thats just what i think
;]

2007-05-19 04:07:40 · answer #8 · answered by Brooke 2 · 1 2

I'm not 100% global warming is even really happening. It used to get over 100 degrees in the summer where I lived, now it only goes to about 98-99. I'm actually starting to think we are getting cooler not warmer, it is may & it is 57 outside. I don't know thats just my opinion

2007-05-19 04:06:52 · answer #9 · answered by kyle 5 · 1 3

I think that we're okay for the time being...but the media does need to emphasize this issue if you want your great grandkids to live, because we need to do something about it!

2007-05-19 04:07:31 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 0 2

I believe global warming is happening, because summer is getting hotter and longer.

2007-05-19 04:24:17 · answer #11 · answered by jwallace91 1 · 0 4

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