Right to Carry Law in Vermont, No Permit Required. Your Thoughts??

Question

Vermont has the lowest Crime Rate in the U.S.!!!!!

Answer 1

Unfortunately, it is only a matter of time before it happens again.

Another maniac will shoot up a school or an office building, leaving several innocent victims in his wake.

But to compound the tragedy, scores of media vultures will follow the trail of blood -- all of them screaming for more gun control.

Of course, one wonders where those same vultures are when a good guy uses a gun to stop a school-massacre. Or when mother pulls a firearm out of the cabinet to send several intruders fleeing the house.

Democrats have praised Sen. Trent Lott (R-MS) for his work in pushing the anti-gun juvenile crime bill through the Senate.

Most of the time, we never hear the positive uses of a firearm reported.

Nevertheless, the next shooting that galvanizes the nation will bring the Congress just one step closer to passing more gun restrictions -- restrictions that are purely symbolic in terms of fighting crime.

Even supporters of gun control admit as much. The Washington Post stated back in September that,

None of the gun control legislation under discussion in Congress would have prevented the purchase of weapons by shooters in a recent spate of firearms violence, including [the] massacre at a Texas church, gun control supporters and opponents agree.
Democrats pushing discharge petition
The primary gun control legislation that moved through the Congress last year was the anti-gun juvenile crime bill.

For the most part, the media has focused on the provisions in the juvenile bill requiring background checks on private sales at gun shows.

But there's much more to the bill than what has been reported on the six o'clock news.

The anti-gun provisions in the juvenile crime bill would blow a huge hole in the Second Amendment. (See the description of the anti-gun provisions listed below.)

Thankfully, the concerted activism of people at the grassroots level has put the gun control "jeanie" back in the bottle -- for now.

But the Democrats, not to be outdone, are looking for ways to uncork that bottle.

Several Democratic leaders are considering a parliamentary maneuver known as a "discharge petition" which would pull the juvenile crime bill out of committee and onto the floor of the House for an immediate vote.

This effort is being led by Rep. Bart Stupak (D-MI) who said he views the gun control provisions in the bill as "gun safety provisions."

As GOA has argued in its TV and radio debates, "gun safety" is just a smokescreen designed to cover the anti-gunners agenda. Namely, "safety" is just a way of nibbling around the edges until the whole 2nd Amendment is gone.

Legislating "gun safety" will result in safety for criminals only.

Moderate Republicans pushing gun control
On the Republican side of the aisle, high-ranking voices are also pushing S. 254, the gun control bill passed by the Senate in May.
Senator Orrin Hatch (R-UT) is the author and chief advocate of the anti-gun juvenile bill.
Senator John McCain (R-AZ) voted for the juvenile gun bill in July.
For example, Republican candidates John McCain of Arizona and Orrin Hatch of Utah are two presidential candidates that are in full support of the anti-gun juvenile bill.

While Sen. Hatch is the lead sponsor of the crime bill, both he and McCain voted for several of the anti-gun amendments that were added in May.

[Readers can go to http://www.gunowners.org/106svote.htm on the GOA web page to view their votes, as well as any other Senator's voting record.]



Senate Majority Leader Trent Lott (R-MS) has also played an important role in bringing the bill to the floor right after the Columbine tragedy.

Lott won praise from Democrats for his forcefulness in getting a quick vote on the bill. Lott himself admitted that,

On the juvenile justice bill [S. 254], I could have gone through all kinds of contortions and gyrations to try to block that, but I thought . . . we ought to take it up. . . . I didn't run around out here trying to block [the anti-gun amendments]. Some of my colleagues said I should have done that.
In July, pro-gun Senator Bob Smith (R-NH) tried to kill the bill, but Senator Lott successfully led the effort to override Smith's filibuster.

Lott forced the Senate to vote on whether to continue the Smith filibuster or to send it to a conference committee.

All three Senators -- Lott, Hatch and McCain -- along with 69 other members of the Senate, voted against efforts to kill the bill.

The July vote sent the bill to a conference committee which is where it has currently stalled.

Compromisers in the House leadership looking to make a deal
Moderate Republicans in the House have also bragged quite openly that they would like to forge a compromise with the Democrats.

"I remain optimistic that some compromise is possible," said House Judiciary Chairman Henry Hyde of Illinois.

"Senator Hatch and I have pulled together a proposal that closes the gun-show loophole and offers a number of other modest yet effective gun safety provisions."

But the truth be known, these proposals are neither modest nor effective -- not to mention that they will not result in additional safety.

Grassroots activism works!
The good news for gun owners is that their activism over the last year has had a tremendous effect upon the rank and file members of the House.

Some Congressmen initially thought their constituents would not mind some gun control compromises. But the torrential downpour of mail from GOA members and supporters has convinced many legislators that those initial thoughts were a mistake.

They have told the leadership they would rather not be forced to "walk the plank" again by voting for more gun control.

As it stands now, there is a winning coalition to defeat the juvenile crime bill on the floor of the U.S. House of Representatives.

Of course, that could change after the next shooting.

For many reasons, we should hope that shooting never occurs. --------------------------------------------------------------------
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Answer 2

Vermont also has one of the lowest population densities in the country. That's the primary reason crime is so low here.

And in response to the long comment by a previous poster -- Vermont *did* have a school shooting, just last year in Essex. A man was hunting down his girlfriend (who worked at the school) and first killed her mother at her mother's home, then went to the school and shot two teachers there, killing one. He's on trial now.

There was no outcry for armed guards or anything like that because I think most Vermonters realize that this was a wildly isolated incident. If you'd had an armed guard at the school (which would have been a long shot, since it wasn't a regular school day), he probably would have just been the first victim.

Doug

Answer 3

Vermont additionally has between the backside inhabitants densities interior the rustic. it quite is the favourite reason crime is so low right here. And based on the long remark by using a prior poster -- Vermont *did* have a school capturing, purely final year in Essex. a guy replaced into looking down his lady pal (who worked on the college) and favourite killed her mom at her mom's domicile, then went to the college and shot 2 instructors there, killing one. he's on trial now. there replaced into no outcry for armed guards or something like that because of the fact i think of maximum Vermonters comprehend that this replaced right into a wildly remoted incident. in case you will had an armed look after on the college (which could have been a protracted shot, because of the fact it wasn't a properly-known college day), he probably could have purely been the 1st sufferer. Doug

Answer 4

Sounds great! Need more states like that. Sarah Brady bites!

Answer 5

Vermont has the lowest crfime rate because they are 99% white state. With their high taxes, no industry they keep the rift-raft out. Liberal, yuppee socialists!!!

Answer 6

QUESTION? A big one. Isn't this a liberal state? Are THEY packing?

Answer 7

People are going to believe propaganda over statistics so it's really not going to help.

Answer 8

My thoughts: Huh?

Answer 9

strange since they also want to impeach bush ?