Did you know 18,000 Germans were imprisoned or fined heavily for questioning the holocaust last year?

Question

Do you think it should be against the law to question what the Jews claimed happened to them during WWII? I didn't say holocaust, because the holocaust was what was done to Germany. That was a holocaust. The Jews don't want you to think about Germany bombed to bits or nuclear bombs dropped on Japan. They don't want you to think about those things. I say everyone demand the Jews who own the television networks to have a nationally televised debates on the holocaust. I think they would have the biggest audience of all time. The Jews could say they were buried somewhere and people could go there and prove nobody is there. The Jews could claim lampshades made of human skin or soap made from Jews. Oh wait! Those claims have already been recanted. There will be no more mention of the lampshades or human soap. Just two lies made up. If the Jews claim six million killed they must provide all the names and birth records could be searched. This is very simple. [e-mail]

If you agree that there should not be laws outlawing the questioning of the holocaust, then if someone was questioning the holocaust and let's say they were a non-Jews and some who was screaming at them whether they be Jewish or not my question is...would you tell the person to shut up who was trying to stifle the person who was questioning the holocaust?

Answer 1

I'm a strong believer in the right to free expression, no matter how moronic that expression may be.

If a person wants to deny the holocaust, they should be allowed to. Their denying it is proof of their disassociation with reality, a sign of mental illness or simply an indication that they're a moron and they should have the right to provide that evidence.

There is simply too much evidence to question the holocaust. You might as well question if the American Civil War actually happened.

Answer 2

Germany has had anti-Nazi laws since right after the end of the war. Even people found not guilty at the Nuremberg trials and who never joined the Nazi Party during WWII were jailed under the newly passed anti-Nazi law.

So it is still against the law in Germany to question the holocaust. That is too bad for two or more reasons, first of all it stifles free speech, and it would allow the holocaust deniers to make a fool of themselves.

Answer 3

The number of 18.000 is total nonsense, there were no more than maybe 100.The number 18.000 is the total number of racist crimes in germany in 2006, the vast majority of those cases had nothing to do with denying the Holocaust but bc. of agression towards foreigners or display of forbidden symbols.
Pretty much all those who deny the Holocaust also call for action against jews, foreigners etc..Denying the Holocaust is seen as an insult to the victims and as an instigation to racism, hence the fines.Only 2 or three were actually imprisoned bc. of repeated crimes.

Answer 4

I'm not an expert on the holocaust, but I think Hitler wanted to rise to power and in order to do that, he needed something that would rally most of the people to stand behind him. One of the most powerful ways to do this is an "us or them" psychology. In this case it was mainly Hebrews and "gypsies" that became the "them". Why was it allowed to continue for so long? I think it's like someone getting picked on in school. Most people don't want to get involved even though they know it's wrong because they risk drawing the attention of the bully onto themselves. Eventually, and hopefully, if the bully escalates his tormenting to an unbearable level, the authority figures intervene. But what if when the bully first started tormenting the individual, everyone took a stand against the bully? Attempting genocide is not new in the known history of the human race. We have it even today. Perhaps it's because there will always be people who feel so insecure, so inferior inside themselves that they only way they can make sense of their world is to try to dominate it. Fortunately, there isn't a permanent seat on the top of the world and time takes care of them. I hope that helps answer your question.

Answer 5

Sorry, but what you're saying is completely biased and utter nonsense. It's not just the Jews who "claim" there was a holocaust. The Poles say so. The Russians say so. The Roma and the Sinti say so. The survivors of the German Resistance say so. And the Nazis left enough evidence for the great majority of historians to confirm so. And no amount of straw-man arguments can change that. Check the literature, and stay away from the fringe group of holocaust deniers and their suspect political agenda.

Answer 6

I agree that it should not be illegal to deny the Holocaust, as it doesn't hurt anyone to say this; it's not a threat and it's simply freedom of speech. Of course the Holocaust happened, but why a need to arrest some anti-semetic idiot who says otherwise? They're an idiot, but they should be allowed to say it.

This is a part of the larger brain-washing of Germans after WWII. They've been trained since birth to have absolutely no pride in their national culture and heritage. My German friend says that most of the music in Germany is in English because, as she put it, 'it's easier to make lyrics in English'. I asked her 'don't people get tired of hearing music in English and want to hear German music, since it's Germany?' She said that Germans aren't nationalistic and don't think about things in that kind of light.

Fair enough, but Germans shouldn't ever feel ashamed of their past. WWII isn't their fault (modern Germany) and they have absolutely nothing to apologize for.

As for the second part of the question...no I wouldn't interfere is someone was yelling at a Holocaust denier, but I'd step in to 'break it up' if things were getting too heated and violent.

Answer 7

I'll just address one part of your little tirade ... the claim of the numbers killed. You are right, it IS very easy to prove, because the Nazis kept meticulous records!

There are 16 MILES of these records in Bad Arolsen, Germany!
You can read about it here
http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2006-11-19-holocaust-papers_x.htm

But it's rather obvious that all the evidence in the world won't sway you from your opinion.

Answer 8

I very much doubt your figures and I challenge you to prove them.

As for the rest of it - you are either an anti-semite or a neo-nazi, the rest of us know that the Holocaust took place. This is quite apart from what happened to Germany when the rest of the world was forced to take up arms against that particular bunch of racist warmongers.

Answer 9

Just to be sure, I read your post twice to pick out the questions. You have two:

1. "Did you know...". No, but the number does not surprise nor shock me.

2. "Do you think...". Yes.

The remainder of your post seems to support a position of some sort. Why don't you distill your thoughts and tell us what's on your mind?

Answer 10

I think it would be okay to question someone if and only if they were willing to talk. If they are doing it to find out things that are wrong then I think they should be penalized by law and appologize to who they were questioning.