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Including being born in a certain place-Bethlehem
Come from a certain linneage, exact manner of execution--which was not even a form of execution in the time at which the prophecy was given. Be named according to prophecy. Have the claim of being virgin born---from prophecy. Be condemned by the people that were prophesied to condemn him. By chance not have a broken bone, when all other crucifixion victims had their knees shattered to expedite death. Be victim of a traitor for an exact amount prophesied. And there are many more I could give you. The chances of one person fullfilling them all would be astronomical at best. And far too many things could have prevented the occurence of any one of them, by virtue of the fact that Jesus had many enemies within the ranks of high ranking Jews.

So what are the chances?
Verified point---the Old Testament had been written long before.

2007-05-17 21:30:01 · 18 answers · asked by Lover of God 3 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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The chances are absolutely zero. But rather than 50 prophecies in the Old Testament, there are more like 333 with about 456 specific details about His life and all written between 40 and 2200 years before He was born. Here's just a sample:

1)The birthplace of Christ written 700 years before He was born.
Micah 5:2 says "But as for you, Bethlehem Ephrathah, Too little to be among the clans of Judah, From you One will go forth for Me to be ruler in Israel. His goings forth are from long ago, From the days of eternity."
The prophecy says the Messiah would come out of Bethlehem Ephrathat. There was 2 Bethlehem's in Christs' day Bethlehem Ephrathat and Bethlehem Zebulon. They were both small relatively unknown villages. Yet the prophet Micah distinguishes between them 700 years before Christ was born.
2)The Messiah would be born of a virgin(also written about 700 years before Christ was born).
Isaiah 7:14 says "Therefore the Lord Himself will give you a sign: Behold, a virgin will be with child and bear a son, and she will call His name Immanuel(which means God with us).
3)Two prophecies about John the Baptist as the forerunner of the Messiah(the one who comes before the Messiah to announce the coming of the Messiah):
a)Isaiah 40:3(about 700 years before Christ) says "A voice is calling, Clear the way for the LORD in the wilderness; Make smooth in the desert a highway for our God".
b)Malachi 3:1(about 400 years before Christ) says "Behold, I am going to send My messenger, and he will clear the way before Me. And the Lord, whom you seek, will suddenly come to His temple; and the messenger of the covenant, in whom you delight, behold, He is coming, says the LORD of hosts".
4)Jesus's official declaration that He was the Messiah on the original Palm Sunday(a week before He was crucified).
Zechariah 9:9(500-700 years before Christ was born) says "Rejoice greatly, O daughter of Zion! Shout in triumph, O daughter of Jerusalem! Behold, your king is coming to you; He is just and endowed with salvation, Humble, and mounted on a donkey, Even on a colt, the foal of a donkey".
5)Judas's betrayal of Jesus:
Psalms 41:9(1000 years before Christ was born) says "Even my close friend, in whom I trusted, Who ate my bread, Has lifted up his heel against me".
6)Christ betrayed for 30 pieces of silver:
Zechariah 11:12(500-700 years before Christ) says "And I said to them, If it is good in your sight, give me my wages; but if not, never mind! So they weighed out thirty shekels of silver as my wages".
7)Judas would feel guilty and throw the 30 pieces of silver back at the priests in the temple and the priests would take the money and go out and buy a potters field.
Zechariah 11:13 says "Then the LORD said to me, Throw it to the potter, that magnificent price at which I was valued by them. So I took the thirty shekels of silver and threw them to the potter in the house of the LORD".
8)When Jesus was being tried in the Jewish and Roman courts, he would not complain:
Isaiah 53:7 says "He was oppressed and He was afflicted, Yet He did not open His mouth; Like a lamb that is led to slaughter, And like a sheep that is silent before its shearers, So He did not open His mouth".
9)The scourging of Jesus for our sins and for our spiritual healing:
Isaiah 53:5 says " But He was pierced through for our transgressions(sins), He was crushed for our iniquities(sins); The chastening for our well-being fell upon Him, And by His scourging we are healed".
10)He would be brutally disfigured in this crucifiction:
Isaiah 52:14 says "Just as many were astonished at you, My people, So His appearance was marred more than any man, And His form more than the sons of men".
11)He bore our griefs and sorrows on the cross and yet most of the people there didn't understand it. They just thought He was another common criminal:
Isaiah 53:4 says "Surely our griefs He Himself bore, And our sorrows He carried; Yet we ourselves esteemed Him stricken, Smitten of God, and afflicted".
12)He paid for our sins:
Isaiah 53:6 says "All of us like sheep have gone astray(we've all sinned), Each of us has turned to his own way(we've sinned willfully); But the LORD has caused the iniquity(sins) of us all To fall on Him".
13)He died paying the price of the penalty of sin that was due us:
Isaiah 53:8 says "By oppression and judgment He was taken away; And as for His generation, who considered That He was cut off out of the land of the living(killed), For the transgression(sins) of my people to whom the stroke was due?
14)He was crucified between 2 thieves and yet He was buried in a rich mans tomb:
Isaiah 53:9 says "His grave was assigned with wicked men(in other words, He was crucified as a common thief and He should have been buried as a common thief but He wasn't), Yet He was with a rich man in His death(He was buried in the tomb of Joseph of Arimethia, a rich Pharasee), Because He had done no violence, Nor was there any deceit in His mouth.
15)He was a guilt offering which, in the Old Testament, was an offering(lamb slaughtered) for someones sins:
Isaiah 53:10 says "But the LORD was pleased To crush Him, putting Him to grief; If He would render Himself as a guilt offering, He will see His offspring, He will prolong His days, And the good pleasure of the LORD will prosper in His hand".
16)Through His sacrifice on the cross many will be declared justified and righteous by God:
Isaiah 53:11 says "As a result of the anguish of His soul, He will see it and be satisfied; By His knowledge the Righteous One, My Servant, will justify the many, As He will bear their iniquities(sins)".
17)He bore the sins of the world and prayed for the very people who crucified Him:
Isaiah 53:12 says "Therefore, I will allot Him a portion with the great, And He will divide the booty with the strong; Because He poured out Himself to death, And was numbered with the transgressors; Yet He Himself bore the sin of many, And interceded(prayed) for the transgressors".
At that point in time God looked upon Christ as just another sinner like all the people who were standing at the foot of the cross because He was bearing their sins and those of all the rest of the world and ours too. Yet He prayed for those very people in His last moments when He said "Father forgive them for they know not what they are doing"(Luke 23:34).
18) The soldiers would cast lots for His clothes:
Psalms 22:18(1000 years before Christ was born) says "They divide my garments among them, And for my clothing they cast lots".
19)Predicted what Christ would say on the cross during that short time on the cross where He was forsaken by God:
Psalms 22:1 says "My God, my God, why hast Thou forsaken me"?
20) Predicted that they would drive nails into His hands and his feet but they didn't break any of His bones:
Psalms 22:16,17 says "A band of evildoers has encompassed me; They pierced my hands and my feet.
I can count all my bones. They look, they stare at me".
21)The Messiah would rise from the dead:
Psalms 16:9,10 says "Therefore my heart is glad and my tongue rejoices; my body also will rest secure,
because you will not abandon me to the grave, nor will you let your Holy One see decay"(in other words, the normal body decay when one dies).
Let me leave you with one last verse in the Old Testament also written 1000 years before Christ was born:
Psalms 2:7,11,12 says "I will surely tell of the decree of the LORD: He said to Me, ‘Thou art MY SON, Today I have BEGOTTEN Thee(as in ONLY BEGOTTEN SON[John3:16]).
Worship the LORD with reverence, And rejoice with trembling.
Do homage to THE SON, lest He become angry, and you perish in the way, For His wrath may soon be kindled. How blessed are all who take refuge in Him(THE SON)!

PS--I'm only scratching the surface. There are plenty more where these came from.

2007-05-17 21:49:52 · answer #1 · answered by upsman 5 · 1 1

There are several hundred prophecies that Jesus fulfilled. An exact count is difficult, because many of the prophecies are buried within rituals, sacrifices and feast practiced by the Jews, and decided what among those are or are not prophecies can be difficult. But there many which are very clear. If you read the gospel of Matthew, he quotes 60 different prophecies that Jesus fulfilled and mentions without quoting the original verses another 30. That is a total of 90 that Matthew list. Go to the book of Psalms and read through the 22nd Psalm. It has another 20+ (again depending on how you separate the different phrases) prophecies just from the 24 hour period of Jesus death. One of the most remarkable scriptures in the Bible. Thanks to the discoveries of the Dead Sea Scrolls in the 1950's, we now have hundreds of copies of these Old Testament prophecies that predate the events of the New Testament and the life of Christ. We know 100% that these prophecies existed before the time of Christ. Many of the scrolls predate Jesus by 250-400 years. They are identical to the scriptures that we have today, so there is no physical evidence to support a claim that the Old Testament was altered. We have copies from 400 BC that conclusively show otherwise.

2016-05-22 03:38:44 · answer #2 · answered by ? 4 · 0 0

As others have stated, the "story" of Jesus was written 50-90 years AFTER he died. These "prophecies" were well known to the Jews of his time. The writers of the New Testament knew this and therefore they crafted the story of the life of Jesus to fulfill these well known prophecies. That doesn't make Jesus less of a man of God, just maybe not his son born of a virgin.

2007-05-17 21:39:55 · answer #3 · answered by gastonkitty 3 · 1 0

Well, your (and the writers of the NT) free interpretation of the OT is moot. Let's take just one that collapses if you like. The OT predicts that the Messiah will come from a certain lineage. This is on his father's side and pertains to Joseph. But apparently Christ is the son of God, not Joseph. So the lineage is irrelevant. Being the son of God actually means that the prophesy is NOT fulfilled. Like the rest (the virgin mother one is just laughable).

Give us the verse in the OT where the exact sum of Jesus's betrayal is given. I've not heard that one before.

2007-05-17 21:35:14 · answer #4 · answered by Bad Liberal 7 · 1 1

The chances are that you've never heard the words "Vaticinium ex eventu" The reworking of old scripture into the new by scripture writers to give the subject credibility. The old scriptures were written way before christs birth, true, however the gospels of Jesus were written many years after his death.

2007-05-17 21:36:33 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

What about Horus he fulfilled all of Christ's prophecies 1500 years before Jesus.

http://www.geocities.com/inquisitive79/godmen.html

2007-05-17 21:35:00 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 2 0

You don't want to realize that all of that was written by Christianity. The fact of the matter is that outside of religion, there is no written record of Jesus Christ.

2007-05-17 21:45:26 · answer #7 · answered by liberty11235 6 · 0 0

How do you know any of this really happened. Do you have exact dates on your prophecies? And isn't it rather easy to interpret these things the way you want, especially considering the barriers of time and language?

2007-05-17 21:34:18 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 2 0

Can you understand big numbers? This would be the odds. Then imagine a very small number. This is how many could fulfill them, a statistical impossibility.

2007-05-18 08:46:00 · answer #9 · answered by great gig in the sky 7 · 0 0

In addition to the facts stated by other posters,Jesus also PURPOSELY did some things in an attempt to match with prophesy.When you are aware that the messiah is SUPPOSED to ride on the back of an ***,and for that reason you do it,it's more a self fulfilling prophesy,rather than a "fulfilled"prophesy. Case in point.Math.21: 2Saying unto them, Go into the village over against you, and straightway ye shall find an *** tied, and a colt with her: loose them, and bring them unto me.

3And if any man say ought unto you, ye shall say, The Lord hath need of them; and straightway he will send them.

4All this was done, THAT IT MIGHT BE FULFILLED WHICH WAS SPOKEN BY THE PROPHET, saying,

5Tell ye the daughter of Sion, Behold, thy King cometh unto thee, meek, and sitting upon an ***, and a colt the foal of an ***.
You get the difference?It didn't just happen.Jesus PURPOSELY rode an *** in order to fulfill.There are more examples if you need them

2007-05-17 21:51:25 · answer #10 · answered by nobodinoze 5 · 0 2

uh...400% because some shumuch wrote it? It's as accurate as Harry Potter. No wait, Harry Potter is more realistic, because he has a flying broomstick. Can't argue with that logic, any mentioning of flying broomstick = 100% accuracy.

2007-05-17 21:35:14 · answer #11 · answered by chicachicabobbob 4 · 1 0

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