The atheism communities affirm the nonexistence of God. The religious communities affirm the existence of God. The definition of affirm is to declare true. So what’s the difference between the two groups? They are principally the same. Both declare to have illumination on the existence of God, but that can’t be possible. Now I can more so understand a religious person believing in God existence based on his personal revelation with God. I will not argue his experience now. However, atheist say there is no God. If there is no god prove it. If you do then I have nothing to say. But to say there is no God and you cannot prove this means that you are no different principally from those that believe. Both group stand on belief. One thing that is true. Man does not know all things. So man should not and can not make claims on what does not exist without proof. He can be honest and say, “I don’t know.” So atheist, which one of you can prove there is no God?
2007-05-17
16:50:19
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A lot of you are using the tooth fairy, pink unicorns, Zeus, the Easter bunny, etc. to back up or “prove” your point. I never said I do not believe in these entities. I cannot prove they are not real. Where they created in the minds of the imaginative? Maybe…but I cannot produce evidence denying the existence of any of the many listed entities. Theoretically, Even if I asked the person who, and I use this word carefully, “created” these entities whether the entities are real he could not give a solid answer. Maybe he received an revelation that he does not know/understand himself –theoretically.
Second when I state God, I am not limiting God to our present knowledge of a higher power. Could it be that God has not chosen to reveal God? One thing is sure, God must be greater and thus different from how we understand him and God is great and thus different then what we can understand according to the definition of God -Theoretically.
2007-05-17
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THIS IS BASIC LOGIC AND SCIENCE:
IN SCIENCE, "proof" is nothing, EVIDENCE IS EVERYTHING.
ALSO; it's up to the claimant to provide evidence; hence *you*.
Note: "Gods" can NEITHER be PROVEN nor DISPROVEN.
We just discard "Gods" as there is NO EVIDENCE at all. Zip.
2007-05-17 16:52:32
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answered by Anonymous
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Proof only exists in formal mathematics. In the real world, all we have is evidence for or against claims, and theories that allow us to make predictions.
When you say God with a capital G in this forum I infer that you probably mean the God of the Bible. So, what you are really asking is to "prove" that the Bible is true. Or are you referring to another god? I'll assume you mean the Bible.
We can make at least two competing claims about the Bible:
1) The Bible is divinely inspired and their really is a God Jehovah who created the universe and that interacted with Abraham and Job and Noah and Moses etc.
2) The Bible is just the myths of the Hebrews, and is no more factual than the Roman or Greek or Aztec myths.
To be fair, we should consider at least one more claim:
3) The Aztec myths are actually not myths and truly describe the real gods of this universe.
I claim that if you examine all available objective evidence, that claims 1 and 3 are equally poor claims, and claim 2 is the one that has by far the best evidential support.
2007-05-17 17:30:22
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answered by Jim L 5
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Actually, atheists do not claim there is no God exactly. They say they simply do not believe in God. Most feel that there is simply not enough evidence to support such a belief. Theists claim there is a God, and use certain phenomena, and more often scripture, as evidence of this. The atheists have other explanations of these phenomena, and reject scripture as credible. Now, logically, one cannot definitively prove the non-existence of a thing, but if you ask for them to establish a reasonable case for doubt, I think there is a strong one. I am not an atheist, but I feel this sort of challenge is disingenuous. If a supreme being is so obvious, shouldn't the burden of proof be upon those that assert its existence, rather than those that deny it?
My advice would be to define the terms for a supreme being, and the supposed instances of evidence. I think the atheist community could do a credible job in explaining why they find these things to lack credibility. Without defining the terms of what you consider to be God though, it is difficult to rebuff any claim to its existence, as it remains undefined.
2007-05-17 17:04:55
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answered by Lao Pu 4
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None of us can. We can prove there is no God as much as one can prove there is a God.
There are two widely circulated definitions of atheism.
1) The lack of a belief in God.
2) The belief that there is no God.
The two may sound incredibly similar, but they really aren't.
The first definition pretty much is that one does not affirm a belief in God, but does not deny it either. Some argue this is the definition of agnosticism, though I use it as my definition of atheism.
The second definition is believing there is no God. This is a step ahead of the first definition, because obviously there is a lack of a belief in God, but they go on to say God isn't real and they believe this.
It's a pretty sticky area... and the two "types" seem almost the same, but they really are not.
2007-05-17 17:35:12
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answered by Anonymous 3
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Replace the word "God" with: unicorns, mermaids, leprechauns, fairies, Zeus, etc., and you'll see how that question sounds to us. We can't prove there's no unicorns, either. So should we assume that they exist if someone comes along and claims that they do? (With no proof, and not even a shred of evidence.)
If someone says that they "believe" in mermaids, (with no evidence at all and no proof--just belief alone) then is my not buying into it to be considered a "belief"? Should I not make claims that they don't exist because I don't have "proof" that they don't exist?
2007-05-17 17:02:14
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answered by Jess H 7
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you're making assumptions on defective information. working example, in case you have been appropriate then the extra believers in a inhabitants could mean that the final well being of that u . s . could be extra constructive than extra secular international locations. France a mundane u . s . with a usually irreligious inhabitants has the main useful well being provider in the international. america of a, the main non secular u . s . in the western international, has the thirty seventh useful well being care in the international, (look it up, stats via the OECD). regardless of all of those prayers the irreligious French will stay longer, will stay longer devoid of ailment, could have much less psychological well being themes, fewer divorces, much less crime, have decrease toddler mortality, fewer drug problems, fewer abortions. My opinion is which you do no longer probably comprehend what good judgment is and which you should completely learn a project, getting all the information, globally no longer basically domestically, in the past you flow off 0.5 ******. Edit: nicely church attendances is a trademark of being an energetic Christian and France that's 12% in america of a that's 40 3%. actual you're no longer claiming that France is a extra Christian u . s . than america of a.
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answered by ? 4
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I will be the first to say, I do not know. But what i do know is that science cannot prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that there is no god. I am not a radical church goer. But I much rather die and believe in god and find out there is no god, then to Not believe in god and find out that there is. So my answer noone cannot prove there is no god. If you believe in god than do Not let anyone stop you. You have the right to believe in what u want to. So do not let anyone stop you in what you believe in.
2007-05-17 17:13:33
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answered by bruin79 1
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You cannot prove to another person their is a god. Neither can an atheist prove there is no god. Neither idea is provable. Nor would it be polite to try to get you not believe in your god. You believe and that is good for you. Why do you want to miss with other people's beliefs. Why can't you just live and let live.
2007-05-17 17:20:52
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answered by Jim San Antonio 4
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allah is the islamic god it's almost exactly the same as the god in christianity whoever said that but back on topic im not atheist, i'm agnostic but other than a few things i have no idea, can you give us proof of a god?
btw its glad to see someone who thinks atheist means "devil worship" most atheists dont even believe in hell and does it really matter to you no one is pushing what they believe on you and you shouldn't do that to them the only thing that makes me think there is no god is how can god let approx. 11 million die in the holocaust or let 1.5 million die in Rwanda or about 7 million die in Cambodia, Stalin killed 10 million or more in Russia can someone explain why know one helped them? if god blesses america does that make god hate everyone else???
this reminds me of that simpsons episode where homer accidently proves that there is no god "won't let this little doozy get out!"
2007-05-17 17:00:20
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answered by Max Kickass 3
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I am not saying that I don't believe in God. But I don't believe that Jesus is God and I don't believe in the Bible as the word of God. I think the New Testament is pure propaganda.
Don't be an ***. No one can prove or disprove the existence of God. Believing in God does not make him real. Not believing in God does not make him not real.
It is all about what you believe. For some reason people have trouble admitting that they KNOW nothing, so we just BELIEVE and call it truth.
2007-05-17 16:58:42
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answered by Anonymous
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I can no more disprove God than you can prove him. Religion is a personal preference and everyone has a right to their beliefs. Why are so many 'Christians' pointing fingers at those who don't believe in God or Jesus?
I believe the Bible has a verse in it somewhere saying (I'm probably paraphrasing here) Thou shalt not judge. ?
2007-05-17 17:01:49
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answered by cootybean 2
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