Can omniscient beings want things? desire things? have a will?

Question

the ultimate proof god does not exist: omnicient beings can NOT have wills! there is NO possible reason a being that knows everything could have an urge to manifest a universe for whatever reason. NONE.

if you disagree, then what reason could he have?

dze: emotions are the same idea, why would a being that knows everything have emotions such as love?

auntb93: the only thing you just said was "why not?" which doesnt answer the question

hoff mom:
"If you knew everything, would that mean you didn't have a desire to interact with other beings"

what makes you say that? if you make a proposition like that, you have to support it.

Answer 1

maybe He desired to have beings on His own level and loved the idea enough to create a whole universe to place them in ...

Answer 2

Why does knowing everything preclude having a will? I'm obviously not getting where you're going with this.

If you knew everything, would that mean you didn't have a desire to interact with other beings? Would that mean that you didn't have any desire to be creative? Would that mean you just sat there contemplating everything you knew for all of eternity? Sounds boring to me.

But even if you would- I don't guess that necessarily means God would. If I were God, I sure wouldn't.

And why does knowing everything preclude feeling anything? If love is the ultimate good, why (how?) could God not love? How would He even be perfect if He didn't?

You see God as impersonal. You can't conceive of a God who has any desire to create and then have a relationship with His creations. But this is the God I believe in. Just as I had children for the love of the children I desired to have, God created for the love of the creatures He was creating.

Answer 3

Because YOU and other athiestards are not Omniscient beings then all you can do, as the tards you are, is to apply YOUR NON-OMNISCIENT processes in the trivial pursuit of the ways of an Omniscient Being, true? (Hint: yes!)

Your skewed thought processes are akin to a sort of "reverse"
anthropomorphism.

Lastly YOU, too your demise, you and other atheistards equate wants, desires, and wills, that may be in the Bible as anything other than useful in the communication of a Supreme Being speaking to It's Creation in a manner It's creation can comprehend, yes? (Hint: Yes!)

When you talk to a baby you talk in a different manner than to an adult?

You atheistards are tards, for real! Your claim to fame has been destroyed easily.

Answer 4

Maybe want and desire imply not having something to you, and an omniscient being would not necessarily lack for anything. But what of free will? If said omniscient being created a world including entities with free will, then he or she might want them to do something or not do something, yet because they have free will, not necessarily get what is wanted.

As to having a will, why not? Being omniscient, he or she could get whatever he or she wanted unless it was not logically possible, but he or she could still have a will. In fact, this might be the only will in existence if he or she did NOT create entities with free will.

Answer 5

Why couldn't an omniscient being have desires? I don't see your logic here.

Anyway, who told you a deity has to be omniscient in the first place? Sure, most believe so, but so what?

People need to understand that disproving the Christian idea of God DOES NOT disprove God.

Answer 6

How does knowing everything mean that He doesn't desire anything? God knows everything, but He desires a relationship with us. He knew our potential and decided that having a relationship with us was worth it, even though He knew that ppl would reject Him. Why He decided that, I don't know. I wouldn't have done it, but He decided it was worth it so He created us.

Answer 7

gee whiz you atheists are sure a smart bunch of kids. i wish i could figure out cool stuff like that then i would know how to act cool at the local goth club and fit in with the other kids. say do you have any cool cds?

Answer 8

sturdy question! In deed as we are able to purely relate to Gods creations & workings throughout the time of our constrained time body spent with Him utilising our constrained & twisted brains to make attributes about God. The Gracious ingredient we've stated about God is that he's continually an same in dealing with us. God has shown throughout the time of time that he's what we call Omniscient & Consistant. He also despatched Christ because he's Omniscient & Consistant in His Love for His Creations. Out of affection He Created the Universe to percentage his Love inclusive of his Creations. It became in Love that He gave devil & Mankind "loose Will" which both have abused. U communicate with "boredom" as U attempt to "in effective condition" it mutually. at the same time as U are in Love (i will presume for the sake of clarification U were in that state) U are some thing yet "Bored"!!! in actuality, human beings in Love do slightly incredibly unexplainable issues at the same time as in that state! in actuality, devil became so in Love with himself & inebriated on vanity that he tried to be God sparking the Angelic conflict. certain, God Did recognize it in the previous it got here about & so already had a plan to attend to it! possibly U have heard that "If U love some thing, set it loose"? that's what God has performed for us. we are loose to adventure Agape love (Godly) if we settle for what God has performed for us. God needs us to adventure his "thoughts of affection" for ourselves even although we are sinners. that's yet another of His Attributes, "Unmeritted Grace"! we do not deserve it He in simple terms extends it to us by Love! Why wrestle it??? supply Ur existence over to Him! in spite of each thing He first gave existence to U!!! John 3:16 John

Answer 9

Will is the ultimate expression.

Answer 10

This is why I don't believe in omniscient gods.