Is the fact that we are NOT perfect, proof that God is NOT perfect,and that ERGO, GOD does NOT EXIST??

Question

Theists, explain this.

(I can't wait for their irrational and un-matching explanations)

Answer 1

The fact that we are not perfect is just proof that we are not God. We are only created in His image, not exactly like Him.

God Bless.

Answer 2

If you are not perfect, your logic is not perfect and so your conclusions are of similar quality. That is by your own style of critical thinking so don't take it personally.

Ignorance is the fog that blocks out the sunshine. Your assumption is of course that we are not perfect. The sun always shines, but sometimes it is blocked from view by fog. When the fog clears, the perfection within you will be apparent.
An analogy. The fog of ignorance causes you to assume that your computer avatar is indistinguishable from you (the player). The reality is that your actions and senses within the computer game are defined by the programming of the computer game. Your strength, your intelligence, your memory, are all qualities of the computer program, and do not belong to you. Therefore you judge yourself and others by the programming limits of the individual characters because you forget that your just playing a game.

As you are perfect, that would then be proof that God is perfect, and ergo God does exist. Scientifically, you cannot prove that the soul doesn't exist. This is because the soul is like the driver of a car. If you reck the car, the driver cannot express his will. Ergo all your rationality can not disprove theological theory of reality, because the soul expresses itself in the physical mind and is hence limited by it.

Answer 3

God is perfect. First off, Men & Women were created in the image of God, Therefore that means that we are not exactly the same as God...We are like Him. We have human bodies, not heavenly bodies. Second, when Adam & Eve ate of the forbidden fruit sin entered the world. On a good note once we get into Heaven then we will all have glorified, perfect bodies!!

Answer 4

I have the same feelings as you. If you tell people that is how you feel then they freak. You know we go off scientific facts in everything else in this world why does this have an exception. I know something had to make earth but I don't see "god" sitting over the top of us watching every thing we do that's just not reasonable. Who wants to walk around and act like a robot all the time? Rebelling is fun sometimes, and to the people that say it's not, you are lying to yourself.

Answer 5

Why do you keep trying to compare yourself with God? God is perfect, we are not. He created everything good. We corrupted everything. It was our choice. The reason why we are imperfect is because we decided to rebel against Him in the first place. We got what we paid for. Had we obeyed from the start, you would see that God provided a way for us to become perfect. You see, our natural tendency is a desire to grow. God created us that way. We were like little children when He created us, and we had to be taught what was right and wrong. We concluded that we were better off learning that ourselves. Now, we're a mess. We can't blame God for that.

Answer 6

The idea is that God did make us perfect and then original sin entered the picture with Adam and Eve. Also, God gave us free will which gives us the opportunity to choose right or wrong.

Answer 7

No, the fact that we're not perfect doesn't have anything to do with God, Himself. It has to do with the fact that we were given Free Choice upon coming to Earth, and a hell of a lot more tempation than we would ever have seen in Heaven. What that all boils down to is while we're down here on earth, our mistakes are our own and God has very little to nothing to do with it. It's up to us to lead the best lives we can under the circumstances we were given to live with, and take responsibility for the fact that we, as human beings, ruined our own lives, and that it's up to us to deal with our own problems and do what we can to at least be decent individuals. God doesn't expect us to be perfect, but He does at the very least expect us to try.

Answer 8

If you are speaking in terms of the Jewish-Christian God.. Then it is simple. The spirit of man is the image of God. God has no corporeal form thus you must conclude the spirit of man which also has no form is the image or likeness of God.

In that respect, it proves we are perfect in his likeness but not necessarily perfect in our behavior or our corporeal form.

Your question neither provokes thought or provides insight to an age old question.

If you wanted to question the validity of any faith ask something a little more thought provoking. i.e. Why are there no dinosaurs mentioned in the bible? or Can I view the holy text and study it myself without the influence of others to gain enlightenment?

I wish you luck in your pursuit for answers.

Answer 9

I don't agree. Here's what I believe.

The souls of individuals were created for companionship with God (the Whole). The pattern that God used to create souls was the pattern of God's own Spirit. The spirit is life. From the spirit, the mind builds patterns. From the mind, the physical creation is the result. This is how the spirit, the mind, and individuality, became the pattern for souls. This is how cause, action, and effect became the pattern for everything. First there was the spirit (the first cause); then there was the action which withdrew spirit into itself; then there was the resulting individuality of God.

The spirit of the individual existed before their soul was created. The spirit keeps the knowledge of its identity with God. The soul has the ability to experience the activities of the mind in a manner separate from God.

Thus, new individuals issued from God and remained dependent upon God; but individuals were also aware of an existence apart from God. Individuals were given the power to choose and direct their own activity. Without free will, it would only remain a part of the individuality of God. The mind, issuing as a force from God, would naturally fulfill God's thoughts, unless directed otherwise. The power to do this - to direct the force of mind individually from God - is free will. And the record or memory of this freedom is the soul. The soul began with its first expression of free will through the force of mind. The first thought that the spirit generated of free will (i.e., the first diversion of the force of mind from its normal path of unity with God) was the beginning of the soul.

The nucleus of the soul was the balance of positive and negative forces that are equal in power. These forces produce harmonious activities: the positive initiating, impregnating, and thrusting forward; the negative receiving, nourishing, and ejecting. The steps of this evolutionary process are also the stages of the thought process: perception, reflection, and opinion.

Thus, the soul consists of two states of consciousness: (1) the spirit which bears a knowledge of its identity with God, and (2) the soul which bears a knowledge of everything it experienced.

Certain souls became aggressive with their own power and began to experiment with it. They mingled with the dust of the stars and the winds of the spheres - feeling them - and becoming part of them. One result of this was an unbalance between the positive and negative forces. To feel things demanded the negative force. To express through things (and directing and managing them) required the positive force. Another result of souls becoming aggressive with their own power was the gradual weakening of the link between the two states of consciousness (i.e., spirit and the soul). Some souls became more concerned with and aware of their own creations rather than God's. This resulted in the fall of certain souls to an even lower consciousness. The Bible allegorically refers to this event as the Fall in the Garden of Eden and the revolt of the angels in the Book of Revelation. This event is also the basis for the cosmology of Christian Gnosticism and Jewish mysticism.

Just some food for thought, Buff One.

Answer 10

If you are not perfect then how can you measure perfection based on imperfect self?
If you are not God then how can you know God is not perfect?
If God does not exist then what are you talking about?