Question for Australopithecus Hominids, A.K.A. Atheists: Evolution?

Question

If the Christian does not possess a spirit, then what is the force known in martial arts as chi? A force alleged capable of striking an opponent on, (say for example,) the other side of a door? Being the transference of a force through alleged solid matter?

Or the mother who lifts a car to save a child?.

Can an Australopithecus Atheist then explain why a weight lifter can not be enhanced and say bench press 3,000lbs?

Bret: Because we all possess a spirit.
Though it is convenient for a dullard atheist to deny it, science, does not. Scientists merely are unable to apply scientific method for verification, but that does not mean science chucks out what it can't verify because of lackings in science and technology. That is a big difference between an atheist and a scientist. Science does not deny the existence of X simply because it has no way to measure X. To prove the existence of a spirit, and it has been proven, would negate evolution as an atheist perceives it.

Abuafia: Thanks for the discourse. I respectfully disagree abou what you stated about the Mother/Child scenario
in that there are medically recorded instances of the Lifter's muscles and ligaments being torn to sherds, that the force that was used to lift the weight exceeded the body's limitations and still lifted the object.

Answer 1

Thanks fer the attempted so-very "Christian" ad hominem...

Well, AIUI, it's "chi." ... And what you state is *myth*. So the only possible connection is that they're both *myth*. Same with "mom and car".

SO, HOW DOES EVOLUTION FIT INTO YOUR QUESTION?

Answer 2

First things first - you got to take chi from being "alleged" to being "proven." There is no evidence for the existence of chi, other than anecdotal evidence. In fact, I took Tai Chi and the instructor had us go through the whole movement then try to push our hands together. It was difficult to do. He claimed this was the chi. Really, though, it was the muscles that had become somewhat set while doing the movement. Think of standing in a doorway and pressing the back of your hands against each door jamb for 30 seconds. When you move away from the door, your arms will move up on their own (try it at home!). This isn't chi or any other magical force. It's just the way our bodies work.

As far as the two "examples" you mentioned, you've got to give some sources, preferably ones that were tested scientifically.

Now, the mother who lifts the car... that's adrenaline. There's nothing supernatural about it. Now, we're not talking about someone who lifts the car like Superman or the Incredible Hulk. The stories I've found about this, thus far, have been about the lifting of a non-trivial portion of the car, for instance the back left, and then just lifting it mere inches. Don't blow it out of proportion.

A question for you now: if "chi" is somehow tied to the Christian spirit, why is it the two never met until the 20th century? Chi is tied to Daoism, which doesn't even propose that humans have a spirit (at least, the major strain doesn't). There's no emphasis on the afterlife, nor is it proposed that the chi has anything to do with the afterlife or even, necessarily, the supernatural.

Answer 3

LOL. Chi? This is great.

Transferring force through matter is known as physics. You apply the force to the door, which transfers the force to the person. It is like when you put 2 billiards balls next to each other and you hit one. It will transfer the force to the other ball.

People have been known to achieve great strength in traumatic situations because of adrenaline.

I think you are explaining things with myths and magic rather then looking for the science behind it. I think you will find evolution is another example.

Also, in which medical journal was the proof of a spirit published?

Answer 4

You said yourself 'a force alleged capable', such a force as chi doesn't exist.
Mothers lifting a car off of a child ..... it's called adrenalin and has been documented.
Your question really has nothing at all to do with evolution.

Answer 5

For the Ramapithecus(a.k.a. you) that asked this question, what have the Christians to do with the chi? you said if Christians don`t posses a spirit, instead of human...well the Ramapithecus that asked this question needs a few years of evolution to get to the Australopithecus stage..

Answer 6

Trying to sound lofty and condescending using a large vocabulary only proves that you indubitably lack knowledge about the topics within your question, or at least REAL knowledge about them. Thanks for playing, go have a seat in the Eastern philosophy classroom and after you've studied these topics in depth, then plundered the depths of medicine enough to understand the concept of "adrenaline rush" as it applies in "fight or flight" situations, you may return and try again.

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Answer 7

Um, that isn't evolution...
The explanation of chi is that it doesn't exist, and as for miraculous happenings, could be explained as a rush of hormones (most notably adrenaline) as well as people's missing of details when excited.

Answer 8

Adrenaline rush.

Answer 9

as for the first example, please show me an instance of this outside of a kung fu movie.

as for the second, sure- things like this could happen (despite the plethora of mythology surrounding the phenomena); when it does, it is called adrenalin

Answer 10

Ah, now you take kung fu movies literally. Way to go. You said it yourself, "alleged", by which I think you mean "allegedly".