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2007-05-17 01:04:06 · 7 answers · asked by DBBaller 2 in Environment Global Warming

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The major problem is statistics. Statistically, one may well say that because the mid-west of the US of A has had one of its coldest years in recent times, somewhere else in the world has probably had its hottest season on record. Therefore it should average out, worldwide.

However, and I can't give you the details, the overall "sum" of the world's weather is that the world, at surface level, is warming up. Gaseous carbon compounds (CO2, CO, CH4) in the atmosphere have been measured around the world and have increased over the years, the ozone hole above Antarctica has grown (and shrunk and grown...) so these alone cause the heat from the world that is irradiated (night and day) outwards from the surface to be trapped - hence some warming.

Where does the heat come from? The Sun (and elsewhere on earth itself). The heat (as radiation) gets in; but gets trapped in by the Carbon gases when the earth tries to irradiate it out. Others can give you he physics behind this.

2007-05-17 01:34:33 · answer #1 · answered by big_george 5 · 0 0

Have a look at this website - http://profend.com/global-warming/pages/intro.html it looks at the arguments in favour of and against global warming and is based on fact - there's no opinions and no political views.

2007-05-17 08:22:33 · answer #2 · answered by Trevor 7 · 0 0

It's up to you to decide. There's too much debate- it could be the beginning of the switching of the poles (look it up on Google or something), it could be a natural occurrance of some sort, or it could be, as many believe, caused by humans in their greenhouse gas emissions.

I like to feel safe by having the opinion it's something natural done by the earth, mixed together with all the gas emissions etc.

2007-05-17 08:13:29 · answer #3 · answered by Naahmah 2 · 0 0

Global warming is a farce. It is not right. THis planet has cycles, and we are in one, and we can't stop a cycle that God put in motion. The planet has gone through this before. All of the data that they use is easily manipulateable. The worst is these temperature readings they get that say it is 5 degrees warmer than it was 20 years ago. Well if you take a measurement in a city 20 years ago that has 30,000 citizens and not a lot of roads or large buildings, and then 20 years later take a temperature in the same city that now has 200,000 people, highrise buildings, roads, highways and interstates, of course it will be hotter all of that concrete holds in heat. Why do you think it is cooler in the country or the suburbs that it is in the city? It is called the HUMAN EFFECT. We get the data we want because we are looking for exactly that and nothing else, never mind the 5 things we found that contradict our hypothesis, lets concentrate on the one thing we found that sort of backs it up.
They want to tell us that all of the glaciers are melting right, that the poles are melting away and the glaciers are going to melt, and were all going to have to live on mountains not to drown right? DO you know how many glaciers there are on earth? Over 115,000 of them. Do you konw how many are actively monitored? Around 500. Do you know how many of those are actually receding? About 100. I don't think that less than one percent of total glaciers receding is cause for concern, not when that is only 20% of the ones they actually monitor, especially not since they are MOVING chunks of ice, the faster they move the faster they melt, its called friction. On top of that as they move into warmer areas and lower elevations, it gets warmer, so of course they are going to melt. Then to top it off do you ever hear about the glaciers that are growing (by the way growing glaciers accounted for over 175 of those monitored, which means more of them are growing than are shrinking). Bet you didn't hear about the one in greenland that grows over 100 feet a day? It is moving fast enough and growing fast enough that you can actually hear it creaking.
The bottom line is that scientist are funded by others, and if they don't find something that supports their theory, they will lose their funding, and if they lose their funding, then they are out of a job. So of course they are going to find something to support their theory, its self preservation.
If the TRUE data is to be believed we are closer to entering another ice age, than we are to having everything melt.

I am not saying that we shouldn't try to curtail our CO2 outputs, I am just saying that global warming is far from a scientific fact. FOr it to be a fact everyone would have to agree, except that for every scientist that says it is happening there is one that says it isn't. Climate change is occuring yes, but it is totally unaffected by what we do here as humans. Over 96% of all CO2 that is produced on earth is created by nature and all of the animals and plants in the world, out 4% is not going to make the difference. If you believe that we as humans can effect global climate change by driving cars, then you grossly overestimate your impact on this world.

All of these other posters saying that "you should watch the news and see what they are saying of course it is real." This is the same news that said we were winning the war in vietnam when we weren't, the same news that makes voracious claims and allegations whenever they want, without substance or fact. They run stories for weeks about how the hurricane season of 2005 was proof that global warming was occuring, because the storms were stronger than ever before. Except that they weren't any stronger than ones from 30 years ago. Then they say that 2006 will be even worse because so many people are still polluting and it will only make the hurricanes worse. Then it is the quietest hurricane season in 30 years. IT IS A CYCLE PEOPLE ! This is going to happen whether we are here or not. But you never heard a retraction by the news media... you never heard an apology for being wrong. They have no accountability for what they say. They don't even need facts.

How about the science story that went largely unreported about the warming trends on jupiter, saturn, and mars. Storms worse than ever before there and surface temperatures have increased by 10 - 15 degrees celcius. We have warming here but not as bad, DUE TO OUR LAYER OF GREENHOUSE GASSES THAT PROTECT US FROM SOME OF THE EXTRA RAYS THAT ARE BEING THROWN AT US BY THE SUN. The sun is a giant burning ball of gas, isn't it possible that it is burning just a little hotter than usual, therefore all of the planets are warmer. Certaintly my driving my truck here in Florida, and dumping CO2 into the atmosphere on earth is not causing flobal warming on Mars or Jupiter.

By the way, what happens inside greenhouses? There is moisture, exponential growth by creating an ideal growth environment, and extrememly healthy plants ad animals. Why is everyone so scared of greenhouse gases EVEN if it were true? SO we make a lush tropical environment to live in.... smon people. This is a media thing, nothing more, if they don't keep you afraid of something, and glued to the TV for more info, they will have fewer viewers, and less advertising revenue because of it. It is in the media and the scientists best interest for everyone to think it is real. They all lose money if it isn't. I am sure I will get crucified for my views on this, but so be it. People need to stop being lemmings and start thinking for themselves, otherwise they are going to get led right off a cliff and into the ocean to die.

2007-05-17 08:57:35 · answer #4 · answered by Alex H 3 · 2 1

global warming is wrong to the extent that the sea level is raising and can cause floods and island extinction and when it continues it will annihilate humanity and thousands of years pass the cycle begins again to stone age coz the heat will evaporize all water... and human raise will end then who knows comes next? the world is in great danger!!! save the planet!!!

2007-05-17 08:15:49 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0 5

this should provide you the information you seek

join the heresy

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4499562022478442170&hl=en

2007-05-17 08:13:02 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

The theory of man-made global warming is false. Anyone who believes otherwise has not investigated the evidence or is purposely remaining ignorant to the legitimate opposition to global warming. I have given up an one and a half hours to watch “An Inconvenient Truth” so I ask you to do the same and watch the movie detailing the opposition.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4499562022478442170&q=great+global+warming+swindle.
And another video for those of you short on time: http://www.friendsofscience.org/index.php?ide=3
Some more general resources: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_warming_controversy
http://www.friendsofscience.org/index.php?ide=4
http://www.john-daly.com/

CO2 is not causing the globe to warm the opposite is true, the warming is increasing the atmospheric CO2. When the world heats it gradually increases the temperature of the oceans which serve as the largest CO2 sink. As the oceans heat up they release CO2 which is stored in them. The information comes from the same data Al Gore uses, the temperature always goes up before the concentration of CO2 goes up.
http://www.lavoisier.com.au/papers/articles/ninelieslaunch.pdf#search=%22vostok%20figure%20125%22
This is the entire record of temperature verses CO2 record. This is the same data used by Al Gore but anyone with a fifth grade education can see that temperature rises before CO2:
http://vortex.plymouth.edu/atmosphere/IceCores1.gif
The global warming crowd tends to hind this graph, they will only show graphs of the last 20 or so years in which CO2 appears to cause a temperature increase. However when you look at the full data set you see that the current warming trend is not the result of CO2, CO2 rises after temperature. The global warming crowd uses the zoomed in graph to mislead you also they tend to use thick lines on the graph so you can’t make out what rises first. As you can see the temperature rises first and then CO2 starts to skyrocket, that’s why graphs of only 20 years seem to show CO2 leading temperature.


CO2 makes up only .03% of our atmosphere. Water vapor, another greenhouse gas, makes up 1-4% of our atmosphere, this gas is acknowledged to be the main greenhouse gas. All human activities combined contribute only 6 Gigatons of CO2 to the atmosphere each year. Animals, through respiration, decomposition, etc contribute 150 Gigatons of CO2 to the atmosphere. So humans contribute only a small amount of CO2 to the atmosphere which is already in very small concentrations in the atmosphere.
http://oco.jpl.nasa.gov/science.html This is where my data came from, it is an interesting site, it displays the same graphics as Al Gore in his movie but it tells how low the human contribution is. So Al Gore is using the same data but coming to a different conclusion, who do you want to believe a politician with no scientific training or the NASA CO2 laboratory, a group of scientists who spend their entire careers studying CO2.

We know the greenhouse effect is real it is a necessary effect to keep our planet at a habitable temperature. However if our current warming is due to greenhouse gasses it would cause warming in the troposphere , but the troposphere is actually getting cooler.
http://wwwghcc.msfc.nasa.gov/temperature/. That points to other explanations to our current warming.

So what is causing our current warming, it is the sun.
http://web.dmi.dk/solar-terrestrial/space_weather/
http://www.aip.org/enews/physnews/2003/split/642-2.html
http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/060926_solar_activity.html
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2004/08/040803093903.htm
http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2003/17jan_solcon.htm
http://www.globalwarming.org/article.php?uid=900
The fact that only the earth’s surface is warming points to direct heating from the sun rather than heating due to greenhouse gasses. Also other planets in our solar system are warming pointing to a common cause of warming, that common cause being the sun.
http://www.livescience.com/environment/070312_solarsys_warming.html
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2007/02/070228-mars-warming.html
http://www.nasa.gov/vision/universe/solarsystem/mgs-092005.html
http://www.nasa.gov/vision/universe/solarsystem/mgs-092005-images.html
Another theory is that ocean currents play a role
http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2000-03/UoCS-Nrol-1903100.php

The global warming crowd says our glaciers are melting and animals will suffer this is another false claim.
http://www.co2science.org/scripts/CO2ScienceB2C/articles/V8/N46/EDIT.jsp
http://www.nationalcenter.org/NPA235.html
http://www.worldclimatereport.com/

The global warming crowd also insists our seas are rising due to global warming, however this is not entirely correct. Seas in certain areas are rising, there is no global sea rise. The seas have been rising ever since the last ice age: http://globalwarmingart.com/wiki/Image:Holocene_Sea_Level_png
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Post-Glacial_Sea_Level.png
These two sources show that sea level increase now has actually leveled off from a very steep rise for the past 20 thousand years. For proof of this look here:
http://www.climateark.org/articles/1999/markhotd.htm
A mark left by Sir James Clark Ross, an Antarctic explorer, in 1841 is still visible. Not only that but the mark was placed in 1841 to show how high the sea was, not only is the mark visible it is 30cm above current sea levels. Now it is possible that the mark was placed at high tide and the picture taken at low, but even then the mark would still be above current sea levels. The seas have risen dramatically over the past thousand years not due in any part to us. If you want proof of that take a look at one of the dozens of ancient underwater cities that spot the globe. When these cities were built they were on land now they are deep underwater: http://www.abc.net.au/foreign/content/2004/s1107203.htm
This shows a dramatic increase in sea level during human time but long before the world became industrialized.

The global warming crowd also claims a scientific consensus on the issue, this is wrong in two ways. One, there is no consensus, this is a false claim to make you believe in global warming by suppressing the opposition. http://www.oism.org/pproject/s33p36.htm
Also stating new research many prominent scientists have reversed their opinions on the legitimacy of man-made global warming.
http://epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Files.View&FileStore_id=c5e16731-3c64-481c-9a36-d702baea2a42
Second, even if there was a consensus it would mean nothing, science is not politics, you don’t vote on theories to determine their legitimacy.
Here’s 21 pages of websites that disagree with global warming.
http://www.climatechangedebate.org/documents/CCD_read.pdf
The thought that the only scientists who disagree with global warming are paid by oil companies is simply a stupid statement with no reality. This is the most illogical argument by people in support of global warming. Aside from being completely false it begs another question: Who pays global warming supporters? The answer is big environmental agencies that make millions off of global warming each year by teaching, publishing books, and selling environmentally clean products.

The IPCC is the main supporter of global warming, their statements are defended blindly by people who don’t want to admit that global warming is not real. People will claim that they took into account natural sources of CO2, they didn’t. Take a look for yourself:
http://www.ipcc.ch/activity/srccs/index.htm. That is the latest IPCC report, read the entire report, do a search of the documents, there is absolutely no mention of natural sources of CO2. The natural sources have been completely ignored. Also people will claim that the IPCC took the sun into account in their report, this is not entirely correct, while the sun is mentioned the report it’s effects have not been accurately represented.
http://www.john-daly.com/forcing/moderr.htm. The IPCC did not take into account the Svensmark factor. This would greatly reduce the effect of solar radiation on the earth. Look back up to the solar resources to see the effect of the sun correctly represented.
Also allegations have been by IPCC scientists who disagreed with the IPCC statements. They say that their research was censored or taken out of the IPCC report. This is not the first time the IPCC has lied, they forged the famous “hockey stick” graph, which later resulted in a reissuing of the IPCC report.
Here’s another source that disagrees with the IPCC: http://rpc.senate.gov/_files/Sept1004GlobalWarmingPG.pdf
And another: http://www.sepp.org/Archive/NewSEPP/ipccreview.htm
And another: http://www.john-daly.com/guests/un_ipcc.htm

Quotes form politicians, CEO’s, and others are not proof of global warming, they issue these statements to get votes and customers. Scientists are able to get published and get time on the media by supporting global warming. The IPCC continually lies and misrepresents data so they keep their jobs.

In regards to the precautionary principle that says we can only help if we switch over to alternative energy, this idea is not correct. While this may seem legitimate it only helps the first world, third world countries can not afford to switch to the more expensive energy options. Also the US currently spends 4 billion dollars a year on global warming research which could be better spent on research for disease or to fight poverty. For an excellent example of how the precautionary principle is harmful you do not need to look further than DDT. This pesticide was cheap and incredibly effective but it was banned because of it harmful effects on egg shells. Now thousands of people die every year in third world countries because of malaria, a disease that could be easily controlled with DDT.

I hope anyone who believes in global warming they will take a look at the resources I provided. These resources should convince you that global warming is not man-made, it is caused by cycles in the earths climate. If you are not convinced I hope you at least take a new look at global warming as an unproven idea. Remember that global warming is big business for anyone who aligns themselves with it.

I could not go this entire post without mentioning global cooling.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_cooling
http://www.michaelkubacki.com/cooling.htm
In the 1970’s it was claimed that there was a consensus on the fact that the world was headed into an ice age. We have seen once before how damaging a false claim about our climate change can be to our world. Most of the global warming crowd does not want you to know about this scare because it is so similar to the scare today. Government panels were formed and claimed the world was headed to an ice age, evidence poured in supporting the claim, a consensus was claimed, then the whole issue just faded away. That is what will happen with the false scare of global warming.

2007-05-17 15:43:57 · answer #7 · answered by Darwin 4 · 1 2

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