If Christ had a normal birth and childhood but was a prophet would Christians still love him?

Question

It wasn't until the 3rd Century Christ was declared devine. In the 1800s the Catholic Church started the thing about him being of virgin birth. And if his death and ressurection was symbolic as had been the custom in Egypt. Can we still repect him as an ideal man anyway? But with special insights and gifts.

Most respondents are totally ignoring the Dead Sea Scrolls and the Nag Hammirabi scrolls. Are Christians totally incapable of negotiations with other religion such as Jews, Islams, etc? Are are they all just going to keep killing each other off in the name of God. Are they so blindsighted as to even be able to consider other points of view. Yes I am a Christian, but I find what others do in his name as deplorable. At Nicean his divinity was decided by a vote. It was until the time of King James in the 17th century that the bible was standardized. Hundreds of years before that monks merely copied, interpreted, and edited texts at will. I am a searcher after truth. I do not believe in blind obedience. You do know the Cathloics called the 8th Crusade against the Cathers, who were Christians, but didn't believe he was devine. The Catholic Church wiped them out or at least sent them under ground. The Catholic church also burned anyone & their books at the stake who disagree.

Thank you T-Rex for your input. When I have time I will look through all of that information. But I am moving and must pack. I intend to leave this open, obviously people have very strong feeling about religion and I think our survival as a species demands that we give this question serious consideration.

Answer 1

Jesus Christ birth was never divine. You gotta love Constantine for doing what was necessary to keep his power.

Answer 2

You're a bit confused about your Catholic theology; what happened in the mid 1800's was that the doctrine of the immaculate conception was articulated by Piux 9, the same fellow who gave us "papal infallibility." For centuries, since the 300's, really, there were all finds of arguments about the nature of Christ's divinity -but not the FACT of it. Your basic Gnosticsm was a heretical theology with a brand of divinity that didn't sit well with the early church fathers.

Be that as it may, your question also portrays some confusion as matter of pure logic. That is, if Christ HAD a "normal" birth and childhoold -and was "just a prophet," as you say, there would be NO Christians around today to worship Him, now would there?

This, in fact is what the Jewish and Muslim faiths hold -that Jesus was a prophet, and devout members of both religions do love Jesus as such.

And so, today, whatever the Christians would have become, yes, they would love Jesus.

Yes?

Answer 3

The Catholic Church is not the total authority for Chritianity. Check the Dead Sea Scrolls please. The Catholic Church is a major religion so is Islam. The latter even came much later on and claimed that they have a prophet. If Christ were not divine then Christianity will not exist. Christ may never be equated with Mohammed or any other prophet because he was not a prophet. He was the fulfillment of all the prophecies. He is the Messiah and He is God.

Answer 4

The records of the Gospel story are more than 200 years old, including the claims of His birth to a virgin. Your source is false!

The person declared "devine" in the third century AD wasn't Jesus Christ, it was the Roman Emperor! It was with this proclamation that the most serious persecution against Christians began, because Emperor worship became mandatory, and Christians wouldn't submit.

Please look up some Christian theological history before making such wild assertions in the future.

Answer 5

I love and respect Jesus but not for some supernatural capability but for being a prophet .Miracles were given to almost every prophet and same was Jesus .His miracles started from his birth.But i really cant understand how come people rank him god.when he was born by a human mother and was made of flesh and blood.further if he was god why should he come on earth in blood and flesh then suffer through out life and sacrifice himself.god is god capable of doing things which we human cannot and is god because He is creator. Creator can just forgive sins no need for him to stage a show .Humans have been taught lesson and shown the right path by humans to prove that what ever teaching is being transfered is practical and can be practiced by humans.I have not seen any difference made by his sacrifice except people believing they have been forgiven and sinning.The change brought to Christian's life is not by crucification but by the teachings of jesus which taught them morality.And jesus was taken by Almighty .He will come again not for forgiving sins but to preach the message of truth and make people noble and succesful in both lives

Answer 6

Your suppose to have respect for everything that God created, and you acknowledge him, for helping you make it day by day in a world that only he designed, he made human bodies, animals, rain, land, and all that. My point is ... He knows us, better than we know ourselves, and Jesus Christ with his people felt the difficulties of this world, they were right here when the problems of the world really started to get out of control.

A Prophet is used by the Lord God, so he gives Prophets extra power to live on with his words, and spirit. It's why we still have Holy Bibles being made, the words never grow old.

Read the scriptures I left at the bottom ... Maybe it will answer your question about how a Christian like myself feels about Prophets & Messengers.
I feel they wrote the scriptures through God, and that these are powerful words .....

Deuteronomy 4:19

And lest thou lift up thine eyes unto heaven, and when thou seest the sun, and the moon, and the stars, even all the host of heaven, shouldest be driven to worship them, and serve them, which the LORD thy God hath divided unto all nations under the whole heaven.

Exodus 12:31
And he called for Moses and Aaron by night, and said, Rise up, and get you forth from among my people, both ye and the children of Israel; and go, serve the LORD, as ye have said.

Jeremiah 25:6
And go not after other gods to serve them, and to worship them, and provoke me not to anger with the works of your hands; and I will do you no hurt.

Answer 7

You are wrong. Christ was considered God from the beginning of Christianity. Don't believe Dan Brown fiction novel.

Answer 8

Tiny problem - some of Paul's letters were written within 20 years of Christ's death, and they were still preaching a virgin birth then. Matthew and Luke were written as early as 70-80, and they both contain the virgin birth narrative...

Check your facts.

Answer 9

i dont care how my teachers were or were not born
i love and enjoy thier lessons and teachings
he revealed the highest man will in time evolve to
a man born of woman he has left an egsample across time a measure of reason thought and love of the father and the fathers creation

Answer 10

Please you are all mixed up.

The divinity of Jesus was THE thing for the first Christians.
And also His Virgin Birth and His Resurrection. This is clear from the Bible and the first Christian centuries.

The philosophy of Protestantism is behind this total confusion.