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Amazing find ? Fake ? Propaganda ? What say you ?

2007-05-16 13:33:23 · 27 answers · asked by mint56 1 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

27 answers

I found the following sites helpful:

http://www.TheLostTombofJesus.com

http://www.FakeTombofJesus.com


1. Ossuaries 'practice' were from 1 century BC to 2nd
century AD. Book and film assumes everyone lived at
the same time around 70 AD. Doesn't explore the fact
that this tomb encompasses over 100 years. This is
more than likely a multi-generational tomb.

2. DNA evidence proves Mariamne and Jesus did not have
the same mother. Which further supports the idea that
this was a multi-generational tomb. No data shows
they were married, only an assumption by the filmmakers.

3. Dr. Carney Matheson, the scientist from Lakehead
University who did the DNA testing for the filmmakers,
has pointed out publicly that his work was overhyped.
"The only conclusions we made was that these two sets [from the "Yeshua" and
"Mariamne" ossuaries] were not maternally related," he
said. "To me it sounds like absolutely nothing." He
added, "There is a statement in the film that has
been taken out of context. While marriage is a possibility,
other relationships like father and daughter, paternal
cousins, sister-in-law or indeed two unrelated individuals are also possible."

4. No dating has been done on any of these ossuaries.
Jesus could have been the grandfather of Mary, or Joseph
could have been the husband of Mary. There is no proof
that they were all immediately related (versus
multi-generational).

5. The James ossuary was found in 1976 (photo exist and
dated by FBI). Talpiot tomb was found in 1980. Scholars
contacted the archaeologist that cataloged these ossuaries
personally. His name is Joe Zias. "“…the 10th was plain
and I put it out in the courtyard with all the rest of
the plain ossuaries as was the standard procedure when
one has little storage space available. Nothing was
stolen nor missing and they were fully aware of this
fact, just didn't fit in with their agenda.”

Conclusion: James ossuary is more than likely not part
of the Talpiot tomb.

Also, this film was released without academic review.
Now what the heck is that? Like Consumer Reports, they
review products to see if it is safe and to see if the
proper research has been done. In this case, scholars
were not allowed to see the evidence or the hypothesis.
They hired one scholar (Tabor) but he is a paid
consultant who wanted to prove this tomb as Jesus'
tomb since 1996. So he is biased.

There is hope however. A new book I heard about on the
news the other day, combined with scholars,
archaeologists, and scientists -- have now been published.
This is what everyone has been waiting for.
The book is called The Jesus Tomb:
Is It Fact or Fiction? Scholars Chime In [isbn: 0978834690].

2007-05-18 07:35:26 · answer #1 · answered by John Rosa 3 · 0 0

Just to be clear. There were 2 tombs for every person, because of the rocky ground in Israel. The first was the tomb where the body was buried. It was much like a cave. When the body had decomposed, the bones were moved to a smaller box ( ossuary) and reburied. This second tomb is what was being hyped on TV.

The "box' tomb was found a number of years ago, and noted in the "Biblical Archaeological Review". Like the tomb of James, brother of Jesus, which was hyped on TV last year, and proved to be a fake, this one never raised an eyebrow among scholars. Look for another biblical hype to take place next year around the beginning of Lent.

2007-05-16 21:42:52 · answer #2 · answered by frodo 6 · 0 0

I say it's an amazing find.

You found just about the only topic that could unite the 'Christians' and the 'Atheists' on Y ! A, for completely opposite reasons ..... of course.

The 'Christians' deny that such a thing could be so because that would cancel out the resurrection and ascension, without which there could be no 'God-man' divinity in Yashua.

The 'Atheists' deny it because there couldn't possibly have been such a person, and therefore no tomb.

Fabulous ! There is a 'Unified Field Theory' after all. :-)))

2007-05-17 02:05:45 · answer #3 · answered by cosmicvoyager 5 · 0 0

First, let's get some facts behind this media campaign for a tv show.
http://www.y-zine.com/yJesus.htm?gclid=CM3brbyNz4oCFSQkGAodFFlcfw

Then read what the Bible has to say...
2 Timothy 4:3-4
For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine, but according to their own desires, because they have itching ears, they will heap up for themselves teachers; and they will turn their ears away from the truth, and be turned aside to fables.

Understand that they are just doing this for free advertising. They have very little historic or archeologic backing for this. It's the Emperors new clothes--summer wear.

2007-05-16 20:39:25 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

They read the writing wrong. Even the experts say it is not the tomb of Jesus and Family.

2007-05-16 20:36:27 · answer #5 · answered by Scandguard 5 · 1 0

It has already been disproved. The scientists who found the tomb about 25 years ago say it isn't. Remember, Jesus was acommon name in those days and when a Jewish person died, they would customarily be brought back to their homeland.

2007-05-16 20:40:14 · answer #6 · answered by walt3233 3 · 1 0

Yes. It is not in the least certain that the tomb had anything to do with the biblical Jesus.

2007-05-16 20:38:36 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

Even on an antiChristian literature forum, I read an article that showed the whole thing disproved by the testimony of the scholars who were misrepresented as saying things claimed in the special.

2007-05-16 20:38:04 · answer #8 · answered by Travis J 3 · 1 0

Amazing propaganda.
It was hyped up on impossible probabilities.
The odds he used were too small.
He was out by at least a factor of ten.

Get A Grip.

2007-05-16 20:38:50 · answer #9 · answered by Get A Grip 6 · 0 0

Totally bogus. Joshua/Y'shua/Jesus (same name) is one of the most common names in Judea; same with Yosef and Mariam.

It's just something trotted out and publicized hoping to persuade the gullible folks who don't know their Bibles, that the Resurrection never occurred.

2007-05-16 20:38:12 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

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