"And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire."
(Revelation 20:15)
2007-05-16 09:21:47
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answer #1
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answered by Redeemed 5
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"Jesus knows millions don't know he is real and doesn't take it personally."
This sounds great, but unfortunately you can't show us any quotes to prove that theory either.
It is nice to believe that Jesus wouldn't condemn people to hell for not having a chance to get to know him, or for being mislead by a charismatic Muslim, but, in reality the Bible doesn't allow for this type of reasoning. Everything that bolsters this position comes from extra biblical reasoning, which is the same as relying on extrabiblical text for doctrine ie Mormons, JWs.
The Bible says that no man can come to the father accept through Jesus. Period. There is no secondary clause that says, unless they don't have a chance to, then jesus will meet them around back and create a separate deal.
Biblical doctrine taken from the source is cruel, that is just the facts.
2007-05-16 16:16:04
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answer #2
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answered by ɹɐǝɟsuɐs Blessed Cheese Maker 7
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This is probably one of the main reasons I chose to renounce Christianity after 16 years being one. I prefer to think of God as a good person, and the idea of love beyond our comprehension being found in a God that would send you to a place of eternal damnation, agony, torture, and the ultimate depression (i.e. separation from God)- makes me not want to believe in a God like that- because if that is God, I would lose all hope. On top of that, we're only taking a book's word for it, and regardless of historical authenticity (which I believe is next to none anyway- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_myth ),
we should keep in mind that if God must be all-powerful, all-knowing, all-seeing, and all-existing (existing everywhere, potentially at once, including past, present, and future)- [which is the required criteria at this time for a deity to be classified as God] that high level would signify a huge gap between us and God, requiring a lot more supernatural intervention than a book. a book alone could not possibly allow us to even begin to understand God's will, since its simplicity cannot account for the huge gap between us and God. In addition, considering we were made by God, it would be insulting and discrediting to just accept that a book can determine God's will. to blindly accept anything without sufficient reason discredits God as our creator but so much more when what we blindly accept implicates a level of authority equivalent to his own in correspondence to those beliefs influence on our lives. I think the best way to please God is to decide for ourselves how to live our lives, and emphasize our individuality and the gift of freewill he has so graciously given us.
2007-05-16 16:30:26
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answer #3
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answered by Anonymous
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No one can come to the Father except though me.
The problem with folks is that they get to hung up on who is going to hell. That really is between folks and God. You can show people the way, you can preach the word but in the end it is up to God and the person. Stop worrying about who is going to hell and start worrying about who is going to heaven
2007-05-16 16:16:13
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answer #4
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answered by Thomas G 6
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It depends on what version you read.I personally think that what it mean is,except what he brought as for as the message and how to live and treat each other,I personally love and respect Jesus,and everyone has a right to there opinion,and will suffer the consequence of there own actions.
2007-05-16 16:15:40
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answer #5
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answered by lolo rachi 2
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The Bible doesn't say anything at all about acceptance. It only talks about receiving Christ. God is glorified in his Election to Heaven as well as His reprobation to Hell.
2007-05-19 01:52:43
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answer #6
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answered by ccrider 7
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Children do not go to hell. When they are old enough to know good and vil, then they become old enough to know right from wrong , All EARS Will hear about Jesus He gives you FREEWILL to except Him or deny Him, thats YOUR CHOICE and what you choose will give you eternal life or eternal hell.
2014-03-24 20:39:30
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answer #7
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answered by Elaine 2
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In my opinion, people who have never been exposed to God and Christianity do not go to Hell. Like children. If they are not old enough to accept Christ, then that's not really their fault, now is it? It's OUR job to tell people about God. That's why we're here!
2007-05-16 16:15:42
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answer #8
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answered by Whatsername 2
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Ok I am going to address the issue of hell first. Why in the world would a loving God even create no less send souls to hell forever to burn,
, What kind of benevolent God are they teaching you about in bible class?
If you do your research, and I think anyone reading this should. "Sheol", commonly misinterpreted as " hell" is the hebrew word for burial place, associated with the earthly common grave of mankind.
Hades : also commonly misinterpreted as " hell" is the the greek word for the common grave also translated infernus (might be where the burning torment place comes from, the latin version) which means " that lies beneith"
Gehenna" : the hebrew word for " the valley of Hinnom" total destruction,, an actual place in ancient times a place where the corpses where burned with fire thus being completly destroyed. This does not indicate pain or torture.
Don't believe: look it up for yourself,, the translations that is.
Now for the scriptural backing:
Look up
Eccleciastes 9:5,6, 10 and it states:
That the dead are dead, not thinking, not devising, not playing a harp, not sufffering. Not floating around somewhere anywhere! Kinda like sleeping
" For the living are conscious that they will die; but as for the dead, they are conscious of nothing at all, neither do they anymore have wages, because the remembrance of them has been forgotten. 6 Also, their love and their hate and their jealousy have already perished, and they have no portion anymore to time indefinite in anything that has to be done under the sun.
7 Go, eat your food with rejoicing and drink your wine with a good heart, because already the [true] God has found pleasure in your works. 8 On every occasion let your garments prove to be white, and let oil not be lacking upon your head. 9 See life with the wife whom you love all the days of your vain life that He has given you under the sun, all the days of your vanity, for that is your portion in life and in your hard work with which you are working hard under the sun. 10 All that your hand finds to do, do with your very power, for there is no work nor devising nor knowledge nor wisdom in She´ol, the place to which you are going. "
Interstingly enough vain means:
As the vapors
So yes there is agreement that Jesus is the Way and The Truth and the Life"
John 14: 6
The way to what? The truth of what? The Life where?
John 14:5,6
The preceding scripture 5,, explains the context in which Jesus was speaking
" Thomas said to him: Lord we do not know where we are going. How do we know the way?
Jesus said to him" I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one get to the Father except through me."
So Jesus is the way to his Father, shows the Truth about his Father and his plans, and the life ( btw Jesus never spoke of hell) and why would he perform three ressurections anyway? To prove what, do you think? for more information go to www.watchtower.org
And finally for the issue of those who don't know:
According to the scriptures " not knowing" won't be an excuse
Notice what
2 Thessolonians 1:8 says
8 as he brings vengeance upon those who do not know God and those who do not obey the good news about our Lord Jesus.
However God being a God of justice and righteousness is sounding out a global warning through his true chritians who obey the command of Jesus Christ and follow in his footseps in doing what can be found at
MAtthew 24:14 as part of " the sign of the last days
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14 And this good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations; and then the end will come. "
Good news? Is hell good news? Is going to heaven even good news. What happens after the last days?
Wouldn't good news be that this world won't be destroyed by global warming?
Pslams 37:11
"11 But the meek ones themselves will possess the earth,
And they will indeed find their exquisite delight in the abundance of peace.
Psalm 115:16
"16 As regards the heavens, to Jehovah the heavens belong,
But the earth he has given to the sons of men.
Ecclesiastes 1:4
"4 A generation is going, and a generation is coming; but the earth is standing even to time indefinite
Wouldn't good news news be that the dead will be ressurected to a pardise earth? Free from sin death and the wicked one?
Psalm 37:10
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10 And just a little while longer, and the wicked one will be no more;
And you will certainly give attention to his place, and he will not be.
"Revelation 21:3.4 "
With that I heard a loud voice from the throne say: “Look! The tent of God is with mankind, and he will reside with them, and they will be his peoples. And God himself will be with them. 4 And he will wipe out every tear from their eyes, and death will be no more, neither will mourning nor outcry nor pain be anymore. The former things have passed away.”
"saiah 65: 21- 2521 And they will certainly build houses and have occupancy; and they will certainly plant vineyards and eat [their] fruitage. 22 They will not build and someone else have occupancy; they will not plant and someone else do the eating. For like the days of a tree will the days of my people be; and the work of their own hands my chosen ones will use to the full. 23 They will not toil for nothing, nor will they bring to birth for disturbance; because they are the offspring made up of the blessed ones of Jehovah, and their descendants with them. 24 And it will actually occur that before they call out I myself shall answer; while they are yet speaking, I myself shall hear.
25 “The wolf and the lamb themselves will feed as one, and the lion will eat straw just like the bull; and as for the serpent, his food will be dust. They will do no harm nor cause any ruin in all my holy mountain,” Jehovah has said.
And that would be the truth and the life and yes only through Jesus and knowledge of him and His Father can one get there
John 17:3 3 "
This means everlasting life, their taking in knowledge of you, the only true God, and of the one whom you sent forth, Jesus Christ.
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2007-05-16 17:25:05
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answer #9
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answered by Anonymous
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Hell is something created by the Catholic church to scare people which has filtered down to other churches. On closer examination hell is just non-existence(separation from God) As if God would torture people forever? What for?
2007-05-16 16:56:15
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answer #10
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answered by sukia_99 1
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Here's the kicker. "The wages of sin is death." We've earned hell, really. That's what we deserve for a life of backstabbing, lying, cheating, stealing, killing, and blaspheming. John 3:17 says that Jesus came to save the world not condemn it. We have condemned ourselves. Thanks be to God for saving us through Jesus!
2007-05-16 16:38:18
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answer #11
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answered by imluke54 1
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