Should SIKHISM and BUDDHISM Be Viewed As Affiliates Of Hinduism Rather Than Independent Religions???

Question

Do You Agree That Sikhism and Buddhism as well as Jainism should be viewed as affiliates of Hinduism, or an inseperable part of Hinduism as opposed to Independent Religions In Their Own Right?

Zafrullah, why don't u go and put your head in a toilet seat! I have directly e-mailed you 100+ times to tell you not to put your filth on my questions and yet you continue to do so. Don't answer such questions, understand? stick to your islam!!!

Dear Arif,

Please empathise the situation from my point of view. I do not intend to present myself as insolent and ill-mannered. I have e-mailed this individual on numerous occassions and have kindly requested to him that he refrain from answering my questions. However he deliberately answers my questions with such nonensical statements that it makes my blood boil. He does this intentionally because he knows that it angers me. Please believe me, I am not a foul mouthed individual. Everyone loses their cool from time to time. You have no right to pass judgments about my upbringing. Please make a request to him not to answer my questions.

In regards to Hinduism, you will be receiving my e-mail soon. I have prepared a big essay for you. I hope you enjoy it.

Answer 1

Yes indian constituion accepts them as part of hinduism

All three religions (sikhs, buddhists,jains) have Om as their main mantra (om mani padme hum, ek omkar)

Gobind singh while establishing sikh Panthh (he called it Panthh - sect, not a religion) emphasised that Sikhs are there to save cow and brahmins and hindus from the tyranny of muslims

Now idiot sikhs on getting fingers from pakistan say sikh is different relgion and they want khalistan. They have forgotten what pakistan did to their women in 1947,. Japuji sahib has vedanta in simple punjabi and talks about Brahma, Vishnu Mahesh and Durga. Sikhs will one day throw Nanak out of sikhism, to gain khalistan

Buddhism is direct stem from Sankhya philosophy of hinduism, which says there is no personal god, as buddists claim

(and thanks to you, you are one among very few hindus are bold enough to talk of hinduism, not a meek, point gaming hindus. )

Catty beware of ravishing see her hate filled posts against hindus. illicit mixed breeds are like this not her fault)

Answer 2

Every religion carries within it's distinct identity a certain ambiance. Hinduism shares with Sikhism and Buddhism the same ambiance. If a textbook approach is taken, there are many differences and even a schoolboy can easily claim these religions to be distinct from Hinduism but if one takes a second and deeper look, they are not more than affiliates of Hinduism- sharing the same vision in their own distinct manner.

Answer 3

Hindiusm was first. Without the doctrines and reactions of people to hinduism would buddhism have been created. Same with Jainism, I don't know much about Sikhism but I assume its the same.

I think its probably a bit of both. Like Judiasm, Christianity, and Islam. They all formed around similarties and disagreement about basic Judiasm principles. Then formed three different main philosphies and formal doctrine that were so different they created more splinter groups within themselves.

I think its safer to say they're sister religions. Highly related but probably too controversial to show them all their similarties and too presumptious of the differences to say they are the same.

Plus I would add that in modern times, so much of religion is changing that newer and newer versions of old religions show a little influence from everywhere. Buddhism and Christianity. Paganism and chrisitianity (santeria) or vice versa (Christmas-Yule). It goes on and on. What would an alien religion be like....that's what I want to know

Answer 4

Hinduism is more a way of life than a religion. The belief systems invilved are so vastly different, it's like saying Christianity should be part of Paganism. Buddhism is all over Asia, too. In Japan it's largely replaced Shinto and Ancestral worship as the main religion. They are far to vastly different to be considered even related.

Answer 5

No doubt about it ! All the three sects are affiliates of Hinduism and are literally inseparable from it. Many rituals and custom & traditions in Sikhism, Budhism & Janism are to day also similar as to in Hinduism the riligious ethics are enumerated the names of hHindu deities. It may be seen that "RAM" has ocurred more time in Shri Gurugranth Sahib than in Shri Ramcharitmanas.

Answer 6

i vote for Turiya. Sikhism, buddhism and Jainism are branches of hinduism even if some followers of those religions dont accept it.... Truth does not depend upon their acceptance

CATTY : this person answered my questions with hateful remarks against hindus, without any provokation. and if you wish to challenge him/her for an IQ test you will have to spend lot of time in explaining to her what is IQ and how it is spelt !!

Jaswinder : Thanks since you are a sikh yourself your views carry weight . Anyone who understand Sikh Panthh very well will say what you have said.

Answer 7

The founders of SIKHISM and BUDDHISM might have been inspired by Hinduism during self and God realization.

Answer 8

In religious studies, the faiths of Hinduism, Buddhism, Jainism and sometimes Sikhism are classified as Dharmic religions. This is not necessarily because they share origins but because they share themes and terminology. Usually they are regarded as distinct faiths in academia. They are only associated under the banner of having a some similarities. Islam, Judaism and Christianity are treated the same way under the banner of Abrahamic Religion. Daoism, Shinto and Confucianism are united similarly under the title Daoic Religion.

Siddhartha Gautama was born into a Hindu or secular family depending on who you talk to but the middle path that is Buddhism was not born out of the ideas of his family. Buddhism was a new revelation with a focus on inner cultivation and spiritual moderation. It retained some aspect of Hinduism but they are large and vague elements common to many unrelated religions (reincarnation, escape, etc)

Newer forms of Buddhism have also been influenced by East Asian Daoic faith. Chan Buddhism in particularly has been dramatically effected by Shinto and Daoism, taking it even farther away from Hindusim. Tell a typical of Japanese Chan Buddhism that they are Hindus and they will give you quite the funny look.

Jainism's absolute origins are somewhat mysterious in the same way as Hinduism's. However, its emphasis on asceticism and rejection of the Vedas separate it from Hinduism considerably. However, the two have interacted significantly and there may have been some crossover in beliefs.

Sikhism is a unique case. Many scholars view it as a combination of Hinduism, Islam and newer ideas. In this sense it is not an off-shot but a new syncretic faith. In this sense, it is both Dharmic and Abrahamic. However, most Sikhs consider their religion to be in a class of its own.

Parsis are members of the Indian Zoroastrianism community and the faith is not related to Hinduism or the other Dharmic religions. Zoroastrianism is a western religion, possibly the prototypical western religion. Still, Parsis are an integral part of India at this point.

Further complicating the issue is the fact that Hinduism actually describes a number of broad ideas and world views that could easily be described as separate faiths (Vaishnavas, Shaktas, Smartas). Some forms of Hinduism may resemble Buddhism and Jainism significantly in focus but often differ in methods and cosmology.

In another sense, Hinduness is like Jewish identity in that it can have an ethnic component. One can be a Muslim religiously but be ethnically Jewish (If my girlfriend and I had kids, this would be the case). Similarly, one could argue that people that are descended from ethnic Hindus will always be Hindu. I have heard this brought up often regarding Islamic Pakistan and arguments for it being returned to India. I don't know how multiethnic individuals like myself fit into this but I imagine it would be complicated due to the caste system.

As a poster above mentioned, the government of India states that most dharmic faith followers are Hindu but I don't think many will agree that a government is a spiritual or academic authority. For example, the U.S. lumps Middle Easterners, North Africans, Russians and Europeans as White even though many of those groups don't consider themselves as such. Also, Jainism was ruled not to be a Hindu faith in 2005 as per Supreme Court of India judgment, CASE NO.: Appeal (civil) 4730 of 1999 Bal Patil & Anr. vs. Union of India & Ors ;DATE OF JUDGMENT: 08/08/2005. This judgment may lead to a reconsideration of the other faith's legal status.

Then again, this is all about self-identity and that is an artificial mental element. So these religions are what the individual believer believes them to be. Personally, I believe the faiths to be distinct enough to qualify as separate, independent religions. However, I only study religion. I don't practice any of the dharmic faiths or any other faith for that matter.

Answer 9

Pray, first let me know what is Hinduism?
From the additional details one thing comes out crystal clear that you are not just infected with hate but are also foul mouthed. This speaks volumes of your Hindu upbringing.
I will await your comments on this. May Allah guide you to the right path that is Islam. Ameen.
Addition: I thought, Mr. Hans Laxman, that this is an open forum where all the subscribers of yahoo are allowed to participate. You cannot choose as to who should answer your questions. It is unfortunate that you do not subscribe to the views of Zafarullah. Still it does not justify the language that you have used. In fact the kind of inflammatory questions that you have asked or the answers that you have given, deserve worse kind of treatment then this. But my upbringing stops me from foul mouthing some body who does not agree with me. You have given ample proof of the kind of upbringing you have had and also the Hindu tolerance you so vehemently speak about.
But the most unfortunate part is that you are trying to justify one wrong with another, like Narendra Modi and the BJP.
P.S.
I will wait eagerly to read the "big essay". My only request is that if possible don't send an email, but send it in this open forum. Let the world know the truth.

Answer 10

Less said and spoken is better and mom mentality never understand logic and reasoning. Every body wants separate indentity and wants to show their strength. No comments. Read between the lines if you can .You are wise enough!!!!

Answer 11

i agree

but first of all i must comment on this stupid girl above: LOL!

d'u know what?
i mailed her yesterday telling her what i thought of her!
i gave her such points as she wasnt even able to argue up to!
i told her EXACTLY what i thought of her

believe me, i think she is such a moronic idiot that she calls a 'physicist' a physician
and she told me off for writing in internet shorthand, when HER spellings were as bad as hell!

she tells me to pray before a thousand gods before i can stop being villanous!

i told her that she was a looser and actually CHALLANGED HER for an IQ test (online only coz i we cant meet in real life!)
and after threatening her with her reputation...she actually cowered off!LOL....


NOW ravishing: this is only a start,...any more nonsense,....and i can get a BIT more vindictive!!!lol lol lol