The modern church?
No. For this reason.
Vs 17 And the dragon was angry with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, who KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS OF GOD, and have the testimony of Yahshua Messiah.
Now there is a woman who is the church and it does exist now so it could be called the modern church but when you coin the phrase "modern church" then the assumption has to be that your talking of the Catholic/Protestant and all its little offshoots religion. But that can not be because they do not keep the commandments of God. In fact the ridicule them and ridicule anyone who would keep them.
The woman does exist. Find the church keeping the commandments of God and you will find it.
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The woman is only Israel in the context of Romans 11 where the believers are grafted into the the tree and those the disbelieve are broken off. Israel did not exist at the time of Yahshua in fact God had divorced Israel and He was born of Judah or the Jews. We can't be talking about the Jewish religion here because also once again in the text it identifys the woman as "Who keep the commandments of God AND HAVE THE TESTIMONY OF YAHSHUA MESSIAH."
It is important to let the bible interpret itself my freinds lest you twist it to your own destruction.
Matthew Hey thanks for a real question. Brothers and sister you may not agree with my answer but our brother deserves a star for asking something that has meat and it not another hit piece.
2007-05-15 19:09:11
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answered by Tzadiq 6
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The woman is Israel. The Jews who were left behind (the ones that were not Messianic Jews and did not go in the Rapture), will open their eyes and see the Truth (Jesus) for who He really is. They will escape to a place God provides for them and He will protect them for 3 1/2 yrs after the antichrist reveals himself and claims he is Christ.
2007-05-16 02:14:27
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answered by connie 6
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The woman travailing in birth is Israel. And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne (verse 5). This man child is not Jesus; He had already come to Earth two thousand years earlier. This birth takes place in the Tribulation Period. Who then is the man child? He’s the 144,000, the man child of Israel. This man child is caught up into heaven and the woman, Israel, flees into the wilderness.
2007-05-16 02:11:01
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answered by cmebDUCKs 3
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Yes, the woman is representative of the nation Israel.
2007-05-16 02:08:54
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answered by free 1 indeed 4
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The "woman" is Israel.
Revelation 12:1-5
And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars: And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered. And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads. And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born. And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.
A woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars with child [singular]
Genesis 37:9-11
And he dreamed yet another dream, and told it his brethren, and said, Behold, I have dreamed a dream more; and, behold, the sun and the moon and the eleven stars made obeisance to me. And he told it to his father, and to his brethren: and his father rebuked him, and said unto him, What is this dream that thou hast dreamed? Shall I and thy mother and thy brethren indeed come to bow down ourselves to thee to the earth? And his brethren envied him; but his father observed the saying.
According to how Jacob himself interpreted this:
Sun = Jacob (Israel) [Rev12 woman: clothed with the sun, identified by her clothing which is Israel]
Moon = Rachel (mom) [Rev12 woman: standing upon]
11 stars = 11 brothers [Rev12 woman: crowned with the 12 tribes of Israel (their father). We see the 12 tribes identified with the doorways in and out of New Jerusalem as well. (Revelation 21:12)]
A great wonder (sign) in heaven a woman:
Clothed with the sun - The 12 tribes of Israel were borne through Jacob, their father. Being clothed with him is like an identity for the woman. When you see the woman, clothed with her father, Jacob, it represents all of his literal seed, the Jews, what we call the nation of Israel.
Moon under her feet - Genesis 3:15 prophesies of the coming Messiah through the seed of the woman. (It is the man who has the seed) The lineage of Christ actually came through the woman, Mary, and in the symbology of this woman in Revelation 12:2, being Israel, shows that Christ came from the nation of Israel. Revelation 12:2,5 Christ, the man-child was born of a virgin through the nation of Israel, the tribe of Judah. He was bruised by Lucifer (the cross for our sins) and Christ will crush Lucifer's head (his ultimate defeat in the end). I believe the woman standing on the moon demonstrates this relationship of the woman as being the foundation of the nation of Israel and the fulfillment of this prophecy.
Crown of 12 stars on her head - The 12 tribes of Israel are also represented as the 12 pearl gates into New Jerusalem. I believe this is because salvation came through the Jews, and so we must pass through their gates to enter the city. Proverbs 4:7-9 speaks of a crown of glory and an ornament of grace. Psalm 103:1-5 speaks of crowning with loving-kindness and tender mercies. Also, in Genesis 49 is Jacob telling the 12 sons "that which shall befall you in the last days." Genesis 49:22-26 specifies Joseph's prophecy of the blessings of Jacob being on the head of Joseph, the crown of the head. The crown (stephanos G4735) symbolizes a badge of royalty. So it would seem that the 12 tribes of Israel are the glory of Israel and rightly so since they are her beginnings.
2007-05-16 02:06:18
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answered by tebone0315 7
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