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is there any way she can get out...she tells me that her recute lyed to her about her contrat and that she wont be geting any GI bills....she is already done with basic and is now in A school. but is it right for the navy to disve her like that...all she wanted was money for school. NOT to be sent OVER seas. she is in navy resuver so is there any way she can get out with out being put on actve dutie

2007-05-15 16:21:12 · 22 answers · asked by lonn r 1 in Politics & Government Military

she is a EO so she will be sent over...is there any ways she can get out of it....i dont need to be put down !

2007-05-15 16:29:33 · update #1

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Her recruiter LIED???? - Say it isn't so!

DUHHHHHHHH - that's what recruiters DO.

They find gullible young people and tell them what they want to hear to get them to sign on the dotted line.

Then it's off to Iraq to be slaughtered with the rest of the sheep.

2007-05-15 16:26:29 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 3 8

The contract, active or reservist is an obligation for 8 years. The contract says she fully understands what is expected of her. Let this be a lesson learned about how important a contract is once signed.

The recruiters actually have to be caught lying. It can't be "her word against his/hers".

Some people have gotten out based on not being offered the A school they signed for.That's called "breach of guaranteed job".

"Convenience of the government". That's the one where your family member becomes famous or you win the lottery and buy your way out.

There is something called the entry level separation, for people who are in under 180 days that may not meet standards.

There's failing PT. There's getting tested positive for drugs.

There's hardship discharge. That would be if she family conditions that no one is able to help with.

Educational discharge, but they need to be near the end of their service.

There's pregancy where you can request a discharge but may not get it.

Recruiters can get in trouble for lying, but they cover their tracks. They do rush you through the paperwork, and in MEPS she should've made sure this was what she wanted.

If she's a reservist, there's no guarantee she'll be going overseas.

You can always get a lawyer, but make sure it's one savvy with military rules and UCMJ. There's nothing wrong with a consultation and have her bring her papers. But also realize if she takes this to court, this could make her day to day job even more miserable.

Better to just have her do her time, see if she can still get the GI Bill (reservists are entitled to a smaller version of it) and college if possible, just be her emotional support and let her vent.

2007-05-16 00:11:29 · answer #2 · answered by nightdogg 4 · 1 1

This is partially her fault, you know. anyone who enlisted into any branch of the military in this day and age has to expect at least some time in the Sandbox. and to use the sorry excuse that she only wanted money for school doesn't fly. we have been at war since 2001, what in heck did she THINK she was going to be doing? and her chosen rating?! even more of a guarentee that she will be sent on deployment.

She signed up for 8 years total, and yes, Reservists DO get called up to Active duty. As long as she completes her part fo the contract, she will be allowed to utilize her GI Bill. I know for Active Duty you must serve at least 2 years ..the first year to pay the $1200 and the second to recoup the training they gave you. Not sure what the Reserves Regs are like.

2007-05-16 09:48:42 · answer #3 · answered by Mrsjvb 7 · 1 1

Lesson to be learned: whenever promised something, always make sure it is written out! If not written out it was never said and done!

But I am slightly confused. I am in the Air Force and not sure if it is different but you actually sign a document stating that you accept or decline the GI Bill.....and you are given a copy of this paper work. Where is her copy???

And as for her trying to get out of going overseas....When she enlisted, did she not raise her right hand to defend her country and constitution? Her being assigned to go overseas is apart of the job. The education offered is a nice incentive but everything in this life comes with a price....nothing is free. If she just wanted to go to school and not prepared to do a job she signed up to do on her own free will then she should have applied for some scholorships and kept that right hand down.

2007-05-16 00:43:26 · answer #4 · answered by Jade | My Brain is My Shepherd 5 · 1 1

Look, she joined the NAVY! Everyone knows that the Navy is gone most of the time on a ship. She needs suck it up and be proud to serve in the US Navy. She will get tuition assistance through the Navy, she can stay in AND get her degree. I did it.

Also, if she did not get the GI bill, she denied it when it was given to her as a choice in Basic Training! The option is given to every military member, you just have to pay $100 a month for 12 months and serve for 36 months to get it!

2007-05-16 13:17:26 · answer #5 · answered by Melissa A 3 · 2 1

Did she not realize that she had to sign up for the GI BIll? You have to pay $100 a month for one year in order to get the GI Bill benefits. She can still do this, she just needs to go see her supervisor. I hate people who join the military for the "money" and then whine when they have to be stationed away. Everyone gets sent overseas these days. Deal with it! The rest of us do. No she can't quit, she can only be discharged!

2007-05-15 23:53:34 · answer #6 · answered by mustangsally76 7 · 1 1

From former Navy Mom--

First--chill and try to see the good things about the Navy--opportunities to see places that the rest of us can only dream about seeing. Her commitment is not forever, but it is a commitment for which she took an oath and that so makes her my hero in my book. It sucks that recruiters DO lie, but what SHE makes of the experience is up to her and is in HER control. She should take all of the training and get all of the qualifications that the Navy offers to start to prepare herself for discharge in the future

Second--being sent overseas is part of the job, but at least if she is sent to Iraq, the Navy personnel are much less likely to be a casualty (poor Marines and Army take the biggest hits).

Third--Go on-line to find out what the real scoop is related to Mongomerty GI Bill benefits, which have some benefits for active duty, selected reserves, and Tuition Top-up, VEAP for Veterans, DEA for Dependants and the Navy Loan Repayment Program. Do a search using "GI education bill" and steer to sites ending in ".gov". Have her find out who she can talk to where she is stationed to get the real story. Websites:
www.education.military.com/money-for-school/reserve/gi-bill/selected-reserve-gi-bill-users-guide
www.gibill.va.gov

Fourth--There are many opportunities for education during her tour of duty. Many ships have college professors on board for sailors to take courses for credit.

Fifth--Neither of you should do anything stupid that WOULD jeopardize her benefits--my son was not happy with the Navy and decided to take some UAs (Unauthorized Absence=Navy's version of AWOL), for a few months, finally went back, rec'd a Discharge Under Other Than Honorable Conditions, and lost most of his benefits--all with only a year to go. It's not forever.

Best of luck to both of you! Betty Boop

2007-05-16 00:24:20 · answer #7 · answered by Betty Boop 1 · 1 1

Betty Boop is absolutely correct. I will expand a little. GI Bill she can still get it 6 months after boot camp. She has to pay into it but she still gets it . On active duty,everyone pays into it (about 1200) you get over 40k, in college money, in return...good investment. You pay 100 a months for 12 months . She should complete he enlistment....and decide if it really sucks as bad as the first 12 months sucks for everybody in the DOD.

2007-05-16 04:11:55 · answer #8 · answered by sooner 68 2 · 1 1

i don't think so, she can get kicked out, they say if you get kicked out of the military its soooo bad, that all just depends on what kind of career you are lookin for. she wont be able to be a supreme court judge or have a job that requires a high security level. otherwise you don't have to tell an employer you were ever even in the military.. i was in the navy i had fun seen cool places travel was the reason i joined

2007-05-15 23:29:44 · answer #9 · answered by STEVE0 THE CLOWN 3 · 1 0

This is a pretty big decision, and a very difficult time.

I'd suggest finishing the training, and then think about it when you are together and able to talk it over calmly.

None of the options will evaporate by waiting a few weeks, and the picture may be a lot clearer then.

2007-05-15 23:27:08 · answer #10 · answered by open4one 7 · 1 1

if you get pregent they will give you a choice weather to stay in or not. but must think really hard do you want to bring a baby in this world at this time of your life,after all after having a baby everything changes and that includes the 9 month wait.i really hope you make the right choice.

2007-05-19 20:39:13 · answer #11 · answered by usnavy 1 · 0 0

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