Who else is tired of people saying 1 style is better than the other?

Question

also people keep on saying that certain techniques don't work in mma so they don't work in real life Ex: kicks ( it is so retarded cause the people in mma fights sucks at using kicks do you see how slow they are at kicking compared to bruce lee or chuck norris)

Answer 1

Just ignore them. Save your energy for someting productive.

Answer 2

Most mma fighters don't use kicks because above the knee and most certain above the waist they are not practical. I will say that no style is any better than the next. I have what works for me and you have what works for you etc. That will not be the same for everyone. It is about the person. For an example, I have no doubt that TKD, for me is not worth the time to walk across the street for, for someone else it may be the #1 reason that they live for. I have, of late, gotten so fed up with this is better than that, that I have allowed myself to get a little caught up. I think, even worse are those this person vs. that person questions. Beyond all else those are the worst, for me. Most on here are "traditionalist" and for them it works. I have gotten a little more verbal in the last few days, not all a bad thing. There will always be some one who disagrees with what we think, no problem. I'm glad not everyone thinks the same way I do. If that were the case there wouldn't need to be this question / answer site. That's what makes the world go round. Anyway, my two cents.

Answer 3

I think every person serious about training i sick of hearing this crap. Let's face it anyone that knows what they're talking about understands that there are pros and cons to every fighting style yes even BJJ lol...

The idea of cross training is not a new one, martial artists have a long history of training with each other to improve their skills and have always taken techniques from each other.

In my opinion it is modern marketing & capitalism that is to blame. Now I'm not a hippy or a communist or anything, I just think that we are spoilt in western society, we want to be able to choose the best product, we all know that if we choose one certain TV it may cost more but it will work better or do things that others just won't, we seem to want this to be true of everything, unfortunately in martial arts this is just not possible, price does not dictate quality, and as for the marketing, there is so many people trying to find the "best" buy for their hard earned dollars that people have to act like their system is the best thing since sliced bread, in order to attract and retain students many teachers talk down other fighting approaches and explain reasons why their system is so much more superior.

I think people should spend less time on the hype and more time on the training, if you think your system is the best and are happy to just train with and beat people at your school, then cool, stick to your cool little world, or if you want to test yourself try out sparring with a few other systems, NOT LEARNING NEW SYSTEMS, try to use your system for what it was intended for which is defending against other people not your friends. At least get a good grounding in the system that you are learning before starting something new as you may have missed something that would negate the need to. And please PLEASE stop telling everyone about how great you are because of someone that was a great fighter, if you can't beat them then you don't have the right yo use them as an example of why you are a good fighter.

The most simple thing to do would be to just keep your opinions to yourself if they are negative towards other systems, because at the end of the day it's as annoying as door knocking mormons. Keep your opinions about which style is the best to questions specifically phrased as such!

hmmmm.. I'm ranting aren't I?

Sorry

Answer 4

I do agree that is annoying, ushually people say their style is the best. When people ask me what style is the best I say to them in what terms power, flamboyance, kicks, fighting ability etc..... it goes on and on but to be fair every style has its strength and weaknesses. I love my style but will never say its the best, as it lacks what other styles have but it sure is effective, and for me it is perfect. MMA has been overpowered with kick boxing, wresteling and jujitsu as that style of fighting suits these styles, but if you took the gloves away then I garuntee other styles would take over. Gloves take the sensitivity and power out of your bridge something that is very important to martial arts, in MMA you dont see much trapping and manipulating simpley because the feeling for that is not there take the gloves away and it opens up a whole new level. I dont think it should be called MMA it should be called kick boxing, wresteling and jujitsu.

Answer 5

Im not tierd at all, sometimes it takes a little bit of critisizm to get some changes happoning and sites like Bullshido.net will only creat a higher standard in what people expect from their maritial art. Too many MA are taking the "dance" aproach and have become great at creating justifications for it instead of toughening up and improveing

Take Aikido for example, it used to be a tougher MA believe it or not, today however there few old school teachers like Henry Ellis who still teach Aikido the way it was meant, as a MARTIAL art not a martial ART. Same is happoning with Judo and TKD, with the advent of MMA however i foresee that both arts will start improving

I see where your coming from with this post and i agree there are many idiots out there who arnt worth listening to just dont go turning into one of them. sometimes all people can do is critisize since many MA have closed their doors to showing what their art is about through real time fighting or sparing

Bruce Lee sayes "Take what is usefull, reject what is useless and create what is uniquely your own" i dont mind if peoploe critisize as long as they have a good point to make, and if my art was getting critisized consistently by many people, instead of getting tierd i would take a good hard look at my art and see if all those people are on to something...

Answer 6

There is no such thing as a best style , some may be a little more practical, but that doesn't mean its better. MMA fans seem to be the worst about believing that one style is better then another, usually because that is the style or styles are used by their favorite fighter.

Answer 7

You just killed your own question by your MMA kicks suck argument. Also you use Bruce Lee as an example when he was the first MMA practitioner. In MMA our kicks tend to be low kicks, not high fancy ones because you'll find yourself one the ground 9 times out of 10 when attempting them. As for whether one style is better then another. Well, you'll always have people that will say that (Just look at you). You even have people out there that think Dragonball Z is real. Its just something we have to live with.

Answer 8

I agree that no style is necesarily 'better' it's just what you take to. I've tried several. Karate was a little to linear for me, mainstream TKD focused too much on the feet for my tasted, and jujitsu the way it's taught around here was too strength based, it just seemed to be a refined form of street fighting to me. I eventually found on a more mixed, adapted style based on TKD that I took to naturally.

It's more that more people take to certain styles than others. I know a lotta jujitsu blackbelts who are very good, that seems to be the style to beat around here. However, I know mainstream TKD blackbelts as well as normal Karate blackbelts that are forces to be reckoned with, as well as some aikido blackbelts you certainly wouldn't want to meet in a dark alley.

There's also a sort of rock-paper-scissors effect with some styles. Style A beats style B, but style C beats style A, and style B beats style C. EX. You try to bust though their defenses with a powerful kick and a striking style may just try to block and leave themselves open where as a grappling style will grab your foot and take you to the ground before you know it. However, if you use short, quick jabs, and swiftly go back into stance, and play a little defensively, a more grappling-based style has nothing to grab and you can wait for an opening. Gotta know what beats what, and if your not trained in what beats your enemies style, you have some difficulty.

I'll be perfectly honest though, if a style clings too much to old tradition, then yes, it's not going to be the greatest. You have to be able to adapt your style to today's standards- fighting has evolved alot as we learn more about the human body, and you have to be prepared to fight someone whose LITERALLY using scientifically calculated movements based on our knowledge of the human body and its strengths/weaknesses.

Answer 9

Hear! Hear!

Other tiresome questions I am personally sick and tired of. I now provide my answer to all of them and refuse to ever answer them again, for my own peace of mind:

-Does Judo/boxing/Capoiera, whatever, work in a real fight? (They are called martial ARTS for a reason. If you have a need for something real, sign up for Iraq - Real enough for you?).
-What's the best art for street fighting? (Street smarts, which will get you out of 99 percent of situations. If you're street fighting because you want to street fight, no self-respecting teacher will give you the time of day - and it could get you killed or jailed. And if you're getting in more than two of these in a decade, you're looking for them, plain and simple)
-Isn't the UFC the most baddass thing ever? (No. They're athletes like any other athletes. They train in function of who they're going to meet next and it's got as much to do with athletics as with the arts. Like other athletes, they do it for the fame and money they take from you, the gullible fans. With other rules, other fighters would fare better. If you don't believe this try throwing somebody and falling on your knees on asphalt and see how much fight either of you have left).
-What videocassette/book/dvd can I use to learn martial art x? (You can't - if you don't even have enough dedication to get to a proper school, those things won't help you. I don't care how visual you are.)
-Could martial artis/ufc fighter x take on a gorilla/tiger/shark... etc? (No - they're naturally armed wild animals. They would rip the human to shreds).

That's all I can think of for now. If I find any other of those annoying recurrent questions, I'll answer them once and get it out of my system again. I'm done for those.

Answer 10

Best advice I every read was by a Japanese sword master. He said forget rigid style's learn the basics and then develop your own according to your body size and ability. Learn two or three styles judo for ground work, karate for power and aka-do for defence. Or pick some other's do not get in a rut it's to easy to read whats coming next in a real fight.

Answer 11

Yeah i know what you mean. No style is inherently superior to other styles.

Each style has it's own positives and negatives. The one that is right for a practitioner is the one that's best fitting.

I myself practice three martial arts and yoga. I found that all of these have been complementary to each other and offer their own insights into the workings of the mind and body. Combined, they have made me very very happy.