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Do scientologists believe in God?

2007-05-15 12:09:21 · 9 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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I'm sure some do because, on the surface, Scientology CLAIMS to be compatible with other faiths (though Scientology is NOT centered around the worship of any deific figure). Scientology advertises that belief in God is absolutely acceptable, but if you look closer to the position of L. Ron Hubbard, the founder & "prophet" of Scientology, you'll see that he disagrees. While Scientology claims that its members are free to believe in God and be Christians, but it just doesn't make sense to be both. The fundamental beliefs are too much in conflict.

Christianity, as it's core tenet, teaches that Jesus Christ is our savior and messiah. Hubbard's teachings about Christ, however, deny this outright. In an earlier writing he states that Christ never existed but was only an idea electronically implanted in our minds (this implant is called "R6" by Hubbard).

"Somebody on this planet, about 600 B.C. found some pieces of 'R6.' I don't know how they found it; either by watching madmen or something. But since that time they have used it. And it became what is known as Christianity. The man on the cross; there was no Christ!"

Christianity teaches that, through Christ, one achieves redemption, making one worthy of heaven in the afterlife. Scientology, on the other hand, teaches that we are all immortal "Thetans", or spirits, which never actually die. According to Scientology, Thetans exist in many many physical bodies through time, but the death of the physical body never destroys the Thetan. Thus, the Thetan reincarnates over and over and never passes on to any "afterlife".

Christianity teaches that Heaven exists (and most denominations teach that Hell exists as well). Hubbard specifically denounced the idea of the existence of Heaven and Hell. Christianity also teaches that God (Yahweh) exists, and Hubbard was very skeptical of the idea of a "Big Thetan" ruling a place called "Heaven", a place he didn't believe exists.

2007-05-15 15:06:07 · answer #1 · answered by ZER0 C00L ••AM••VT•• 7 · 3 1

Do Scientologists Believe in God?

I hear this one a lot. It's interesting that there is a perception that we don't believe in God, when at the core of Scientology understanding is the dynamics. There are eight major divisions of life, which we call the dynamics. The eighth dynamic is infinity, or the God dynamic.

The real question is actually - who or what do you believe God to be? The answer to that is unique to each Scientologist. As a Scientologist, one does not foreswear his own beliefs - in fact denying your own convictions is contrary to what it means to be a Scientologist.

Ask ten Scientologists about their beliefs regarding God and don't be surprised if you get ten different answers. Within any community of Scientologists, you are likely to find Catholics, Protestants (I was raised Presbyterian), Muslims, Jews, Buddhists, Shintos, Baha'i and many more.

Do we believe in God? In more ways than you can imagine.

2007-05-15 19:16:18 · answer #2 · answered by poormigalito 3 · 2 2

I'm a Scientologist and I believe there is a 'God'.

I don't see 'God' as being a guy in a white robe, actually I don't even see 'God' as male or female. Well thats my belief anyway which has nothing to do with what anyone does or should believe.

Look for yourself at what you believe. If you can't see study some more and find out how to find out.

A society without belief, art, family is a dying community.

2007-05-17 01:54:07 · answer #3 · answered by michaeljripley 3 · 0 2

Scientology does not try to define or describe the concept of God, the Supreme Being or the Infinite, This is left up to the individual. However it does recognize that this is a part of Life.
It's main concern is the spiritual nature and spiritual condition of man.

Here are some facts about it that may help to clarify:
Scientology is an applied religious philosophy. When I say "applied" I mean you actually use it in your life to change or improve existing conditions. It is a very practical religion.
All religions if you learn about them have a basic philosphy, but they also have certain dogma, rituals and observances, and a certain faith or belief is required. There is nothing wrong with this, but Scientology is not that kind of religion. It does not intrude on anyones faiths of beliefs in the area of God , the Supreme Being, or the Infinite. This area is left totally up to the indivdual as pasrt of his life. It does not conflict.
You can have no specific religious beliefs and still benefit from it.
And it is only true for you according to your own observation and experience with it.
It is also not a messianic religion. This means there is no worship of messiahs in Scientology. There are no “beliefs” as such because a truth should be according to ones own observation and experience.
The dictionary definition that applies:
Religion: The spiritual or emotional attitude of one who recognises the existence of superhuman power or powers.

The most basic principle of Scientology is that YOU are your own immortal soul, that this is not a "thing" you HAVE but what YOU actually are.
The whole purpose of Scientology is to increase an individual's understanding and awareness of himself. and lifeAnd thereby his native abilities .
When you do this the sphere and zone of his positive influence increases and moves outward into his life, his family ,his friends, his groups and mankind which he is part of.

How this result is achieved is the "technology" of Scientology, which was developed by L.Ron Hubbard after his extensive research and the discoveries he made, about the human spirit. The basic religious philosophy and knowledge of Scientology is very old, going back 10,000 years at least to the Veda or Vedic Hymns from the East. L. Ron Hubbard researched and made new discoveries about the human spirit. He developed technology from these discoveries to apply to increase spiritual awareness and ability.
He completed his research before his death in 1986 and left all of his results and copyrights
to the Church of Scientology along with most of his considerable personal estate, when he died.

He published a book in 1951 to communicate the basic principles he discovered called: " Scientology The Fundementals of Thought"
There are currently over 10 million Scientologists in more than 163 countries world wide. However we are a new religion, only 53 years old.
The true story of Scientology as a religion goes like this:
1. A philosopher developes a philosophy about life and death.
2. People find it interesting.
3. People find it works.
4. People pass it along to others.
5. It grows.

This is just an overview.
L. Ron Hubbard explained fully the theology and technologies of Scientology in more than 500,000 pages of writings, including dozens of books and over 2,000 tape-recorded public lectures.

2007-05-15 23:54:06 · answer #4 · answered by thetaalways 6 · 2 2

This is the best link to explain the truths: http://www.xenu.net/roland-intro.html

They can't say they believe in God but deny Christ; it goes against the teachings of the Bible.

Don't listen to those wacky people who replied with three pages of nonsense trying to convert you to Scientology. Scientology is a CULT.

2007-05-16 01:50:00 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0 2

They beleive in the almighty Rockshashimasha to which there is unlimited power and you jsut have to pay the a low introductory fee of 250 dollars followed by a monthly tithe of 75 dollars and all will be revealed to you in due time

2007-05-15 19:21:55 · answer #6 · answered by thelogikos 2 · 3 1

No! They believe in a science. A study if you will that attempts to explain what they can't about the word of God.

2007-05-15 19:14:23 · answer #7 · answered by esteban g 2 · 1 2

Yes
THIS IS SCIENTOLOGY
Scientology is a path to find your own personal truth, these are the principles:

1. Man as we know him has three parts: Body, Mind and Spirit but the spirit is man’s true form. Man’s individuality, purpose and self determinism are originated in the spirit.
The second part of man is the mind, the mind is a bank of mental image pictures were all his experiences are stored. The spirit uses these memories to estimate future action effort and make decisions. We call these decisions ‘postulates’. A ‘postulate’ is a conclusion, decision or resolution made by the individual himself on his own self-determinism on data of the past to resolve problems on the past decide on present problems and observations and sets a pattern for the future.
The parts of the mind:
a. The analytical mind is the conscious and aware mind which thinks, observes data, remembers it and resolves problems. It would be essentially the conscious mind as opposed to the unconscious mind.
b. The reactive mind is the portion of the mind that was created during moments of unconsciousness or severe pain. This part of the mind that is occluded to the spirit but still impinges upon the spirit in a stimulus response sequence. This mind is the source of irrational fears and inexplicable emotions, pains and psychosomatic illnesses.
The third part of man is the body this part of man is the specialty of medicine and NOT Scientology. But I will tell you a little secret; the brain is not the mind. Man’s mind is far superior than the brain or any computer. First the brain doesn’t have the capacity to store not even a fraction of the mind’s memories. Secondly the amount data required to recreate man’s thinkingness is far beyond the abilities of the brain. We are talking about millions of gigabytes of data being instantly transferred from the memories banks to man’s consciences for analysis. Just think about it, brain cells are not even a good conductor of electricity. It is physically impossible for brain cells to transfers such high amount of data. All what the brain is the center of the nervous systems, the brain controls movement, glands and receives information from it’s sensor but all thinkingness of man is done by the spirit. You are not a biological machine, you are a spiritual being that has a mind and controls a body through a brain.

2. Dianetics rehabilitation technology assists the individual in exploring his own mind on a self determined basis in order to eradicate the reactive or unconscious mind. In order for the reactive mind to exist it needs to be occluded from the spirit but once the spirit have look and examined the reactive mind, the reactive mind disappears and its data becomes part of the analytical mind.

3. Scientology spiritual rehabilitation technology addresses the rehabilitation of the individuals or groups ability and ethics. Dianetics is an important part of Scientology but it only addresses the reactive mind whereas Scientology addresses all parts of life including communication, learning and morals.

4. Scientology doctrine as a religion holds as its most important axiom “What is true for you is what you your self observe to be true.” This axiom promotes individual thinkingness and independence. In fact it is a high crime in Scientology for anyone to tell anyone what to think or what to believe in. In Scientology it is YOU that do the exploring, YOU that do the observations and YOU come up with your own conclusion.

5. Scientology has highly trained experts to assist you in this journey. We call these experts auditors, auditors are not counselors because they don’t give counsel or opinion. The role of the auditor is to listen and ask a question or command, these questions or commands are geared towards calling your attention to observe a part of life and YOU, by making these observations you gain new data and you reach new conclusions.
The Auditor follows this code:
http://www.scientology.org/en_US/religion/auditing/pg004a.html
“1. I promise not to evaluate for the preclear or tell him what he should think about his case in session.”, “11. I promise never to get angry with a preclear in session.”, “24. I promise to see that any donation received for processing is refunded, following the policies of the Claims Verification Board, if the preclear is dissatisfied and demands it within three months after the processing, the only condition being that he may not again be processed or trained.”

6. This link has 28 different religious studies papers on Scientology made by religious scholars: http://www.neuereligion.de/ENG/index.html Also see this link: http://www.bonafidescientology.org/Append/09/index.htm

7. Scientology vs. Psychiatry. Psychiatry is a dogma that believes that self awareness, feelings, love and faith is merely cellular activity. Basically they think that you are your brain and you are not in charge of your behavior but your cells are. But contrary to their beliefs Psychiatry bases it’s diagnosis on opinion and opinion alone. There aren’t any pathological tests that can determine if a person is mentally ill.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3895596783332855545&q=Psychiatry+is+fraude&hl=enhttp://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8443414209115892468&q=scientology&hl=en
In the following video two college professors explain that there is no such thing as a chemical imbalance.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbTqjSfMPKA&mode=related&search=
Happiness, exhilaration, depression and psychosis are states of mind, not diseases. All what you have to do to stop being depress is change your state of mind and you CAN do that.
Note: Scientology doesn't have anything against Psychology or Neurology.

8. Scientology is a force for good in society and fights dangerous and harmful drugs and Psychiatric abuses, http://www.cchr.org/ criminality, http://www.criminon.org and drug addiction. http://www.narconon.org. And Scientologists initiated the social reform group "Youth for Human Rights" http://www.youthforhumanrights.org and the movement "Say no to drugs and yes to life". http://www.notodrugs-yestolife.org
Scientologists are some of the more intelligent, able, successful and happy people in this planet; including Jenna Elfman, Kelly Preston, John Travolta, Priscilla Presley, Sofia Milos and Leah Remini.
Scientology is composed more than 6,000 churches, missions and groups, employing over 10,000 members, over 10 million people have taken Scientology services WW.

9. Scientology doesn't ask for donations from their parishioners during their Sunday Services. All chapel services are 100% free (marriages, naming ceremonies, ect). Scientology uses an exchange system to finance its organizations, basically earns its money by delivering services. You do not need to buy services to be in Scientology. All you need to do to be a Scientologist is to read the books and apply Scientology to your life. But if you want auditing there are many alternative and economical ways to achieve this.
a. You can do volunteer work in your local church and get your services for free.
b. You can study to become an auditor and perform all auditing with a fellow student. This way you also become a trained auditor and you can provide free services to friends and family.

10. Scientology means “knowing how to know” and follows a tradition of 10,000 years in the study of life and the spirit. Scientology earliest ancestor is the Veda (the Veda means knowingness or sacred lore) continued with the Tao-The-king (also known as Taoism and it means “the way to solving the mystery which underlines all mysteries”) continued by the Dhyana (that means knowingness or lookingness), continued by the works of Gautama Sakyamuni also know as Gautama Buddha (a Buddha or Bodhi is one that has attained intellectual and ethical perfection by human means).
“The words of Christ of were a lesson of compassion and they set a very fine example” The Phoenix Lectures by LRH

11. L Ron Hubbard (13 March 1911 – 24 January 1986), was a literary genius that published more than two hundred stories and novels between 1927 and 1941. As a Hollywood screenwriter during this same period he wrote the screen plays for films such as The Mysterious Pilot and The Adventures of Wild Bill Hickok, while his The Secret of Treasure Island stands as one of the most profitable serials of all time. With a regular production of one hundred thousand words a month LRH was the undisputed king of high-speed production writers. In fact he had the ability to produce a whole story in a couple days of work by only using a manual type writer (believe it or not). Amazingly in the 1980ties he did a come back as a writer by producing the best sellers ‘Battlefield Earth’ and the decaology (ten volume series) Mission Earth. LRH had 21 consecutive international bestsellers, a feat unmatched in publishing history.

LRH could have lived a very profitable and idle life as a writer but he chose to use his earnings and industry to research the human spirit and human mind. This research later became Dianetics and Scientology. LRH produced 5,000 writings and 3,000 tape-recorded lectures on the subject of Dianetics and Scientology. Contrary to popular belief L Ron Hubbard never profited from Dianetics and Scientology but it actually cost him many millions. Dianetics and Scientology are LRH’s gift to humanity. LRH also developed drug rehabilitation, educational and management programs. Humanity will always be indebted for the contributions of LRH.
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References
http://www.bonafidescientology.org/
http://www.chaplaincare.navy.mil/Scientology.htm
http://www.religioustolerance.org/scientol.htm
http://www.scientology.org/
http://www.beliefnet.com/story/80/story_8057_1.html

2007-05-15 20:45:38 · answer #8 · answered by Afinity Warrior 2 · 1 4

I suppose they can.

2007-05-15 19:11:52 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 1 1

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