Is this question too difficult for the masses?

Question

((I asked this question twice -- both times allowing it to make it's way thru the front page -- to be left with no one willing to take a stab at it.))

Is this question too difficult....

When does experiencing the same shared life, become sharing the same life experience?
...or will it ever?

Answer 1

Sometimes we get moments like that, don't you think? Just a glance or a movement can result in a moment of shared experience. Laughter even.

"Toward the end of his life, the Buddha took his disciples to a quiet pond for instruction. As they had done so many times before, the Buddha’s followers sat in a small circle around him, and waited for the teaching.

But this time the Buddha had no words. He reached into the muck and pulled up a lotus flower. And he held it silently before them, its roots dripping mud and water.

The disciples were greatly confused. Buddha quietly displayed the lotus to each of them. In turn, the disciples did their best to expound upon the meaning of the flower: what it symbolised, and how it fit into the body of Buddha’s teaching.

When at last the Buddha came to his follower Mahakasyapa, the disciple suddenly understood. He smiled and began to laugh. Buddha handed the lotus to Mahakasyapa and began to speak.

“What can be said I have said to you,” smiled the Buddha, “and what cannot be said, I have given to Mahakashyapa.”"

Once could call it kensho I guess.
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Answer 2

If it were first determined to be economically viable and favorable for our country (which I doubt), then to make such a forced deportation possible, we would have to stoop to some really fascist methods of doing it, at such levels that anyone would wonder if we hadn't completely lost our foundational values as a country. Alot of families with mixed status would be ripped apart, alot of honest, hardworking people would be taken out of the economic inputs that they are manning, and I doubt it is even worth considering beyond that point. I think that most people are just trying to set up a framework whereby these people pay some taxes and do their time as guest workers (making a little less) before eventually leaving or applying to stay. Think of it as a kinder, gentler form of servitude (almost like the military) after which they earn their freedom. Seems fairer and better for society as a whole- temps would have limited access to basic needs and pay for it, and would have incentives to work hard and make this their country. Right now there is already a path to fast-track citizenship via the military. It always was an unofficial path (immigration judges smiled on military service and top-shelved those apps- that's how my father got in), now it is actually the law. You can hop the fence, join the marines, and apply for citizenship the next day (it will get approved pending honorable discharge or posthumously). If you don't want to join the military, there should be a civilian workforce of people wishing to be a part of this country. That's a big range and we need to agree on what this should be.

Answer 3

Right now we are all experiencing the same shared life and right now some of us are sharing the same life experiences. Because we dont' all share the same life experiences (perhaps even at the same time), we have different perspectives, different points of view and different arguments for our beliefs. But I think this is all part of Gods plan (if you believe in god) or well ordered, or not a random occurence because our differences act as catalysts in our lives together in how we do or don't connect with oneanother. That is a shared experience we all have.

Answer 4

A person exists 'alone' before she gets involved in a relationship. then once this same person starts sharing her own existence with another the confusion begins! Oh, fusion causes illusions!! But we always remains what we are as an individual. We will never see the world with the same 'eyes' as our lover does. It's about sharing a similar life experience (in apparence only). It's parallel.

splintered dreams of unity (our lives are parallel)
so far from reality (our lives are parallel)
independent trajectories (our lives are parallel)
separate terms of equality (our lives are parallel)

broken dreams of unity (our lives are parallel)
independant trajectories (our lives are parallel)
screaming out for understanding (our lives are parallel)
turning inward and suffering (our lives are parallel

our lives are parallel
(Bad Religion lyrics)

Yes, this question is difficult! And this is the reason you asked it twice, you somehow knew that there was 2 trajectories. But my answer may not be the right one.
Depends on your expectations. And of course, why asking easy questions? i mean, if it's easy, you don't even have to ask others. the 'individuation' process is both 'individual' and relational. One can never be in a real and healthy relationship with another if he's not in relation with 'himself' alone first.

What you think?

Answer 5

Yes, the question is too difficult. Just because I share a life with my husband does not mean we have the same life experience. He is a man experiencing life through different eyes than me. Just because we're around each other all the time doesn't mean we aren't separte, unique people.

Answer 6

My fiance and I share a home, several hours during the day, time on the phone,and stories of our day. As far as sharing our life, we don't do everything together. He has a job, I have errands to run. We each have our own mind, our own thoughts. We share a lot of our experiences, but he will not understand totally what it feels like to be me and I will not see the world through his eyes either.

Answer 7

Glimpses is all that seems to be allowed without drugs.
When I attempt to share from and to, even when I find some interest, it is usually short-lived and the other runs like mad.
I have even observed people running, literally out of the house, when I tried to share an abraham-hicks workshop video. Go figure!

Answer 8

My former husband and I shared a life together (23 yr. marriage). From that shared life we shared the same life experiences. Some of those life experiences came to be viewed differently. Yet, before those differences occurred...we thought the same of how we related...thus same life experiences.

From those life experiences...we made choices...then moved on to our own lifes experiences propelled forward by those past shared life experiences. Cause and reaction...energy moves and touches other energy causing reaction of movements / changes . . . and so it goes.

Answer 9

No, I don't think it ever will.

I share my life with my husband but he and I are different in many ways...physically, emotionally, intellectually, morally...etc. and so on! So the things that happen to "us" are always perceived differently. Even when we agree on the experience...we cannot experience the same.

Answer 10

You're speaking of taking a relationship with another to higher levels of unity. 'When' is a trick question, so I'll say,on the 6th day. :) Actually, the 6th level of unity IS sharing the same inner experience.
The 5th is unity in thoughts, and the 7th is unity in being.


-----note: the relationship may be with a spouse, a pet, an event, a concept, or an entity.