How many of you still believe in the Global Warming Lie?

Question

1 - World Sea Levels have not risen in the last 100 years.
2 - Congress refused to act on the looney tune Al Gores Wet Dream Fantasy he Calls Global Warming. Actually Al Gore suffers from Global Intoxication - Al is allergic to the Truth.
3 - The Earth's Atmosphere contains 78% Nitrogen, 21% Oxygen and 1% Carbon Dioxide. This balance has not changed for thousands of years. Therefore, the Carbon Footprint is a joke and if you believe this non sense, then you have just been had by Al Gore. You IDIOTS!
4 - Since Trees and Plants breath in Carbon Dioxide, this gas compound is essential to all life on Earth.
5 - Al Gore has also stated that he invented the internet. Another Lie from being Globally Intoxicated. However, his Democrat Buddy Bill Clinton, did indeed invent Phone SEX!

Answer 1

LOL..
Scott be careful you might piss off the eco-marxist pope.

the fever pitch of the marxists in this subject is amazing. The Chicken littles of the bunch are growing in numbers without any personal due diligence.

Many of the quoted 2500 IPCC contributing scientists have are now stating the report lacks the peer review process as the reports finding were cherry picked to fit an agenda.


http://www.oism.org/pproject/s33p36.htm

http://www.junkscience.com
Media Shows Irrational Hysteria on Global Warming

"The Public Has Been Vastly Misinformed," NCPA's Deming Tells Senate Committee

12/6/2006 5:57:00 PM

To: National Desk

Contact: Sean Tuffnell of the National Center for Policy Analysis, 972-308-6481 or [e-mail]

WASHINGTON, Dec. 6 /U.S. Newswire/ -- David Deming, an associate professor at the University of Oklahoma and an adjunct scholar with the National Center for Policy Analysis (NCPA), testified this morning at a special hearing of the Senate Environment and Public Works Committee. The hearing examined climate change and the media. Bellow are excerpts from his prepared remarks.

"In 1995, I published a short paper in the academic journal Science. In that study, I reviewed how borehole temperature data recorded a warming of about one degree Celsius in North America over the last 100 to 150 years. The week the article appeared, I was contacted by a reporter for National Public Radio. He offered to interview me, but only if I would state that the warming was due to human activity. When I refused to do so, he hung up on me.

"I had another interesting experience around the time my paper in Science was published. I received an astonishing email from a major researcher in the area of climate change. He said, "We have to get rid of the Medieval Warm Period." "The Medieval Warm Period (MWP) was a time of unusually warm weather that began around 1000 AD and persisted until a cold period known as the "Little Ice Age" took hold in the 14th century. ... The existence of the MWP had been recognized in the scientific literature for decades. But now it was a major embarrassment to those maintaining that the 20th century warming was truly anomalous. It had to be "gotten rid of."

"In 1999, Michael Mann and his colleagues published a reconstruction of past temperature in which the MWP simply vanished. This unique estimate became known as the "hockey stick," because of the shape of the temperature graph. "Normally in science, when you have a novel result that appears to overturn previous work, you have to demonstrate why the earlier work was wrong. But the work of Mann and his colleagues was initially accepted uncritically, even though it contradicted the results of more than 100 previous studies. Other researchers have since reaffirmed that the Medieval Warm Period was both warm and global in its extent.

"There is an overwhelming bias today in the media regarding the issue of global warming. In the past two years, this bias has bloomed into an irrational hysteria. Every natural disaster that occurs is now linked with global warming, no matter how tenuous or impossible the connection. As a result, the public has become vastly misinformed."

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The NCPA is an internationally known nonprofit, nonpartisan research institute with offices in Dallas and Washington, D. C. that advocates private solutions to public policy problems. NCPA depends on the contributions of individuals, corporations and foundations that share our mission. The NCPA accepts no government grants.

http://www.usnewswire.com/



Amen

Answer 2

I believe in global warming. I'm not a scare monger, but am an environmentalist. Whether you believe it global warming or not, it is a debate that will have evidence both supporting it and disproving it. This issue is complex and on a global scale that will have evidence that may take decades or even centuries to appear. To say it must be a lie based on a few isolated criteria is contrary to scientific approach. Rather taking stock a multitude of informational sources both for and against global warming to decide which conclusions are reasonable or not is how I approach the debate. I also am unconcerned with the political nature of the debate. It is irrelevant what Gore, Clinton, or Bush say or do. Whether Gore created the Internet or not is irrelevant to global warming.
A lot of why I believe global warming is taking place has to do with the impacts mankind as a whole has played in the world from the last ice age. Nearly all human activities from the Industrial Revolution to current times, requires energy. It may be electric, mechanical, chemical, or whatever. These energy sources (be it through combustion, reaction, or refinement) emit gases. Greenhouse gas (GHG) emissions such as carbon dioxide, methane, and nitrous oxides have been increasing on a global scale (perhaps exponentially, due to human population growth). Global GHG sinks have also been decreasing. I couldn't say whether or not a 33% increase in atmospheric CO2 concentrations can cause a shift in the CO2 cycle and thus a surface temp increase over time. I will say the the increasing human activity is impacting the environment. The US EPA and Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) both have relevant information on the topic. While these organizations may have an interest in promoting hype for global warming, they are far more reputable than the contributors to this forum (myself included). Stick to the debate at hand and form your beliefs on reputable informational sources.

Answer 3

I'd like to see your source of proof (link).
And secondly, global warming, whether it's true right now or not, still is something that we should all be concerned about. We shouldn't take for granted.




The effects of human induced climate change is an area of scientific investigation embroiled in controversy. Some of this controversy is due to the efforts of powerful special interest groups. Some of the controversy is due to the lack of concrete scientific data, which makes the predictions of possible impacts subject to controversy and somewhat speculative. Research into the global warming phenomena reveals only one thing for certain, and that is that the climate is warming (in that temperature has increased about one degree) and that the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere has increased by 30 per cent since the beginning of the industrial revolution, with the biggest increase in temperature and CO2 taking place over the last decades of the twentieth century. These two pieces of data emerge from the controversial debate about climate change as two indisputable facts, and attempts to debunk this data (propaganda that is currently making the rounds that states that ‘global cooling is taking place' is found to be based on deliberate falsification of data - the governments of Saudi Arabia and Kuwait are two well known culprits when it comes to funding and propagating misinformation surrounding the issue of global warming and climate change).

Aside from these two well established scientific facts, there is controversy surrounding the resulting consequences of this build up of CO2 and the resultant effects of global warming. Some of the consequences are less in dispute. For example, it is well known that glaciers are retreating around the world. A recent story in the New York Times featured anecdotal evidence from those living in the high arctic area of Alaska describing the disappearing ice flows, the warmer winters, and the appearance of a strange nesting bird known as ‘a robin' during the summer months (these people, we are told, had no word for ‘robin' since they had never seen one before). Sea level has risen about 6 inches, and further rise in the level is expected, and this really isn't controversial since it would be about what you would expect.

IN the paper, Global warming: It's happening the author states "It is important to realize that we have set in motion on planet Earth an experiment, which we cannot turn off should we not like what we discover to be the immediate or eventual consequences. This is because of the long lifetimes of carbon dioxide (centuries) and other greenhouse gases in the atmosphere and because of the thermal inertia of the oceans."

Answer 4

I have my own theories on this. I am exploring the theory that the Dinosaurs were simply a Bush/Cheney Conspiracy to keep the Middle Class (Reptiles, Fish) and Lower Class (Mammals) down and exploit them (Have them for Dinner). Bush/Cheney also knew when the Dinosaurs died out, their Remains would be used as fossil fuels. Gore convinced the Herbavores to quit eating plants as the Methane they Pooped forth, caused holes in the Ozone Layer, and eating of plants caused less oxigen produced. So upon their mass suicide, the earth cooled and the evil scourge dinosaurs died.
When man came on the scene, Bush saw them as future Exxon and Hilburton Executives and when the Ice age came, he had them wipe out the Middle and Lower Class Neanderdals, so they could survive. Gore again waited to long, and the Herbavores ate the plants, had gas, and ruined the Ozone Layer. It got warm. Then Bush/Cheney, began the Conspiracy of getting the Oil out of the ground (Brainwashed Neo-Con Dinosaurs who were sacraficed for fossil fuel) in an effort to return the Dinosaurs to power, at the expense of the Yellow Tipped Horn Blower Beetle.
Even though Gore almost had Bush 30 years ago, when we were all afraid of Global Cooling, he failed.
So I have now been convinced to open my eyes and support the Global Warming Thoery. I live in California, and just less than 5 months ago, Christmas Day, it was 40 degrees here, and a few short months later it is over 90 !!!
So be very careful. As I pointed out Bush/Cheney go back over 250,000,000 years in an attempt to plan the future day when Exxon/Haliburton rule the world and Over Heat every one in the process.

Or maybe the Earth has gone thru many Hot Tropical ages and Many Ice Ages over the last 250,000.000 years...
Which do YOU Believe.... Hmmmmmmmmm..............

Answer 5

Wow alot of info..

Basically I look at the pictures of the Artic what it was 50 years ago and what it is now. Pictures worth thousand words.

Basically we will be going through a massive change soon. Look at the weather if you like but you should be paying more attention to the food vs people. Less farms more people. you do the math.

I have been in sooooo many meetings about Climate change, that not sure what to believe 100% Pro's and Con's But what I did catch on was soon Not to far off the problem will be Water and Food.

Earth is going through a change and the Earth will Survive no doubt in anyones mind on that one. the question is how many People will survive that change.

Believe dont believe about Climate change your call at one time the world was flat to. People say in a 100 years yada yada crap. Heads up its not that far off on food , water issue its only about 50 or less . Flame me if ya want, but sitting in conferences on the issues your talking about I say enjoy life to the fullest our grand kids wont.

Answer 6

The CO2 concentration has changed from approximetly 278 ppm (preindustrial) to 383 ppm (today). That is a 37.77% increase. According to the IPCC* the levels will have risen to between 541 - 970 ppm by the year 2100.

And please, keep (personal) politics out of the environment section. :)

* "The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) was established in 1988 by two United Nations organizations, the World Meteorological Organization (WMO) and the United Nations Environment Programme (UNEP), to evaluate the risk of climate change brought on by humans."

Regarding global cooling. (next post)
I beleive it was a controversy about the effects of increased temperatures. Some suggested that it would lead to, ironically enough, global cooling. The mechanism behind this is that when the polar ice in the north melts the fresh water would act as a lid*, preventing the golf current from bringing tropical warm water to the north pole. This would in turn lead to cooling of the north pole with the rapid spread of polar ice as a consequense. This ice would, as a contributing factor, reflect incoming sun light back into space. It was speculated that this could be enough to cause a new ice age.

*The "motor" for the golf current is when the warm water from the tropics sinks as it reaches the north pole. The tropical water is cooled down and, since cold water is heavier then warm water, sinks to the bottom. There is actually a cold underwater current going south to the tropics, so the entire process is like a conveyer-belt.
Since fresh water is lighter then sea water the fresh water from the polar ice would stay on the surface, blocking the driving force in this "engine". Hope I made myself understood. :)


Suspendor, it's an 37,77% increase. Learn how to read.


An answer to the post made by MC.

Regarding thetemperature/CO2 corrolation.
*The temperature Has in the past (historically) gone up Before a registered increase of CO2. But this time we see a distinct corrolation between the two. The oceans store the vaste majority of CO2 but additional CO2 in the atmosphere will warm the oceans and make them release that CO2.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_warming
Check the corrolation between the temperature graph, and CO2 level graph since 1960.

Regarding the amount of CO2 released by humans/other sources.
*It is true that human activities only stand for a small part of the total amount of CO2 released. The point is that the CO2 released and the CO2 absorbed have balanced eachother out. Now, the additional CO2 from humans is released so fast that te oceans, plants ec. can't absorb it quick enough, thus the increase in atmospheric CO2-levels.

Regarding troposphere temperature.
*CO2 is present in the troposphere but the warming isn't actually created there. As sunlight reaches the ground it causes heating. The warm gound emits radiation into the atmosphere which is sent back by the green house gases so the energy from the sun does not stay in the troposphere.
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_does_carbon_dioxide_keep_the_atmosphere_warm

Regarding the sun's influence.
*The sun Is beleived to help contribute to global warming, but in a much smaller way then the green house gases.

Regarding heating on other planets/satellits.
*4 other planets/satellites in our solar system (out of well over a hundred) are giving of signals that they MIGHT be warming.
If it was due to heating from the sun wouldn't ALL terrestrial bodies show the same signs?
http://www.badastronomy.com/bablog/2007/04/29/is-global-warming-solar-induced/

About the glaciars NOT melting ..
*http://www.nasa.gov/worldbook/global_warming_worldbook.html ..Please notice that this is NASA's site.

Of course, global warming is a theory. But to say that there is money in making such a claim?Surely, the link between oil companies and the refusal to accept global warming is a much more obvious one?

Answer 7

I don't now & never did. I won't until & unless someone can prove, at the proof standard of a refereed journal, that:
1) The Earth's climate is changing
2) A substantial portion of this change is due to human activity.

Answer 8

AL gore is the second coming. How dare you be so blasphemous! Al gore will find you and GORE you with one of his many hybrids and you better hope he doesn't bring out manbearpig as his secret weapon. He will probably lock you up in his incredibly well airconditioned mansion and brainwash you into believing in global warming while simultaneously showing a loop of him making out with Tipper just to show you the face of true evil. That is all. I'm out!

Answer 9

just for fun i asked a question in polls and surveys and again in religion
who thought Global warming was a lie ,and who was religious ,

granted many people believed in God and also believed in climate change ,

but
the fact emerged that ALL of the people who denied Global warming ,who said it was a hoax ,were without any exceptions ,religious


FACT OR FICTION
many North Americans are used to fiction and they feel more comfortable with fairytales instead of the truth,

Many blindly believe that our fate is in Gods hands ,and their focus is on the beautifull heaven that awaits ,they are not to concerned with the world their children will inherrit

there may come a time that for the sake of our survival the two views will be seperated in to Enemies and friends of the planet

World leaders are not concerned with the well being of the masses ,on the contrary .it was stated at a conference in Copenhagen,in 1998,by An American statesman , that the Agenda demanded a decrease in the world population of 60%,and you cannot achieve this if you start saving everybody.

scientists who work for politicians ,get paid by these politicians and they have downplayed the facts because solutions are expensive and means change

and change effects many peoples incomes,and upsets profit margins,so most of the world is kept in the dark of the real things that are going on.for political and economic reasons

HOWEVER CLIMATE CHANGE IS FACT FOR MILLIONS
Global warming is a very complex collection of many effects

this text only covers some aspects of global warming mainly man made desertification

industrial contamination ,the contaminating effects of the cities ,is another story

there are natural cycles in the planets life
but mans existance has its effects,and this is increasing with overpopulation,putting strains on Natural resources and increasing contaminations as well as destructions of essential componants the ensure living conditions for all life forms

in North Africa,India,Mexico ,millions of people are effected by land loss and desertification and some have died as a result

in china, thousands of what used to be farmers are running for their lives from the dust storms that have burried their towns and turned their lands into dessert,

,the Sahara is growing by 7 kilometers a year
and many of the desserts we know are a results of mans actions ,and they are increasing ,not getting less ,in the dinosaurs days ,there were very few desserts.

collectively this planet is drying up because of bad farming practices like,over grazing and fertilizers,

each degree rise in temperature means 10%crop loss

and there is less and less water (because of deforestation),to irrigate this production ,
and there are less and less farmers to do it..
and there are 70 million more peole every year that have to eat and drink and wash

who are overpumping deep carbon aquifiers
who are plowing more and more unstable lands because they have lost so many million hectares to desertification ,
because of bad farming practises ,such as using fertilizers and heavy machinary or over grazing

RISING SEAS
The northpole is melting ,and we will know it without ice in our life times.
this does not affect the sea level because it is ice that is already in the water.but the melting ice from Green land and the south pole ,are another matter.



http://www.greenpeace.org/international/...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/natur...



if forrest are being exchanged for ashalt,concrete and desserts
what is gonna keep this planet habitable for us

We as humanity can behave in a less stressful manner as far as the Environment is concerned ,but it will mean global co operation between all countries ,and taking into account human nature and the world politics ,it is unlikely that this will happen, Source(s) Lester E Brown is the director and founder of the global institute of Environment in the United states .he has compiled a report based on all the satalite information available from NASA,and all the information that has
come from Universities and American embassies WORLD WIDE ,
his little book--a planet under stress , Plan B has been trans lated into many languages and won the best book award in 2003

Answer 10

When I see Gore ride a bus and get his monthly gas bill down to......ohh......i dunno.........the price of a midsize sedan? then MAYBE ill start to believe that crap.
Until then,*>I can make you carbon neutral, ACT NOW! Buy carbon offsets from ME! $5,000,000 for peice of mind!!!!<*

Answer 11

I never did. Anyone that thinks that small insignificant humans can actually change the global client are too full of self importance.