B. Liberals don't think like that, only people who lack in Historical Knowledge and believe in the ideas of Government Conspiracies would say none of the above, when the answer is staring you right in the face. Their is no proof that the Government knew that Pearl was the target. If you want to prove me wrong. Send me a decoded and translated message of the Japanese BEFORE the attack with the words PEARL HARBOR, ATTACK, DEC 7 all together.
The US had broke Purple (Japanese Diplomatic Code, not JN-25 the Naval Code) The Japanese talked about going to war and the US was preparing in the wrong places. The generals though that they would attack WAKE, THE PHILIPPINES, GUAM, ALASKA, OR MIDWAY before they would ever try and take on Pearl. They were right and wrong. The Japs attack the Philippines, Guam, Dutch East Indies, French Indochina, and Pearl Harbor on the same day. It was sound idea, but they didn't think the Japanese were as bold as they were in planing an operation like the attack on Pearl.
Murray: Bring a source to support that, I have never heared of the Brits knowing. I belive that the didn't know as well, untill after the deed was done.
2007-05-14 04:42:44
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answer #1
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answered by MG 4
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None of the above.
There was a news release about 15-20 years ago, maybe during the Reagan years, that the U.S.Navy was monitoring the Japanese carrier group all the way across the Pacific Ocean, and they knew that an attack was imminent. (They did re-deploy the three aircraft carriers out of range a few days before the attack, curiously. And, the Commander of the base rode out on his horse far from the base - and not his usual habit early on Sunday mornings.)
No documentation exists that Roosevelt intended this to be used as the American entry into the war, but it's no big jump to assume so. Britain was getting pretty desparate, Japan was in effect, forced to attack the US because they denied Japanese access to oil reserves in S.E.Asia.
Somehow, the Pearl Harbor attack makes the attack on the Twin Towers on 9-11 all the more likely for the Bush Administration to have been indirectly complicit with Al-Queda.... As, they KNEW (and they did), but did NOTHING to stop it, and thus, made it EASIER for the attack to SUCCEED (and it did).
2007-05-14 01:14:41
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answer #2
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answered by plenum222 5
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perhaps, any u . s . ought to attack the country, besides the shown fact that that's uncertain. The financial equipment in Japan has bogged down. Japan attacked Pearl Harbor on December seventh 1941 at 7:fifty 8 on a Sunday. because of the fact the country stopped providing oil to them during the commencing up of WWII.
2017-01-09 19:55:57
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answered by ? 3
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This is very hard to answer: first, negotiations were going on but, the Japanese already knew what the answers were going to be, they were feinting.
The Americans were Naive to what was happening in the world. They forced the issues with Japan in the trade with Rubber, oil and other raw products, the embargoes they issued on them. They pushed, you might say, the Japanese backs to the wall.
Japan was suffering from lack of imports. They used the wrong approach, traditionally they were fighters, always have been, always thought they were the deserving race and would conquer. Others were under them and would break when pushed. They didn't think the Americans were strong enough to push back, not fast enough anyhow.
I've thought about this quite often. A great uncle that carried my name is on the wall of honors in Manila, he died fighting the Japanese.
If, a big "if" America would have negotiated with the Japanese on trade. Just like we now are doing. We maybe could have made an agreement with our raw products like rubber, oil, etc. They maybe would have staved off the war effort and become our friends, maybe, maybe. Think about it. A lot of war babies like me out there would have grown up with fathers and families.
I would say "D"
2007-05-14 01:02:30
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answer #4
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answered by cowboydoc 7
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hard question; actually, the US WAS expecting a Japanese attack, but Pearl Harbor wasn’t even close to what our intelligence analysts were thinking; they were expecting a raid in the Ohilipines or Midway or some other far away piece of American real-estate – not the headquarters of the US Navy Seventh Fleet!
2007-05-15 17:47:34
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answered by F-14D Super Tomcat 21 3
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The US knew the Japanese would not stop their war against China, so A and C are out. furthermore they knew War with Japan was an eventuality even though we kept trying for some sort of agreement. We knew it wasnt going to happen though. So D is out.
We knew the Japanese were likely to attack though we didn't know when or where. We could not know the when, but we could take a good guess as to where. The Phillipines. They were Closer to Japan and was right in their way of conquering most of the "Southern Resource Area". Hawaii was too far away for them to attack with nearly a 4000 mile buffer of empty ocean to cross. It made no sense to them to Attack the Hawaiian Islands. Or so we thought at the time
So B is the correct answer.
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Cowboydoc...
You claim the Americans were naive, the general populace was, not the government. Roosevelt knew getting in the war was the right thing to do. Germany and Japan were waging a war of agression that was nothing more than an armed and brutal robbery writ large. ( Need more oil and rubber?, well just kill your neighbor and take it from him... Thats what the Japs thought like then) And you wanted to be friends with them, trade with them? Good thing you were not in charge back then or ever.
You write:
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If, a big "if" America would have negotiated with the Japanese on trade. Just like we now are doing. We maybe could have made an agreement with our raw products like rubber, oil, etc. They maybe would have staved off the war effort and become our friends, maybe, maybe.
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Just like we are doing today... TODAY Japan is a nation of peace. then, Japan was a warmongering nation that was invading every country around it and killing everyone, they were not negotiating for it they were stealing it. And sure. you would like to be friends with those who joined with Hitler's NAZI Germany. why didnt we just become friends with them too and exterminate our Jews as well while we are at it?
Both of my Grandfathers served in WW2 as well. But I bet your Great Uncle is turning over in his grave to hear you speak like that.
Plenum222:
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There was a news release about 15-20 years ago, maybe during the Reagan years, that the U.S.Navy was monitoring the Japanese carrier group all the way across the Pacific Ocean, and they knew that an attack was imminent.
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No there wasn't. Yes the Navy knew an attack was imminent (Hours before the attack, not weeks) But they did not know where, they thought the Phillipines.
The Navy was NOT monitoring Kido Butai (Japanese strike group) all the way across the Pacific. You are confusing two pieces of information that are still debatable today whether they are true or not.
1. Intercept of the "East Winds: Rain" Message
2. Sinking of a US sub that stumbled onto the Carrier group.
I personally believe that both may have happened, but even if they did, this does NOT constitute Monitoring them all the way across the Pacific.
The "Weather" messages was transmitted by Tokyo to its foreign embassies to let them know where Japan was going to attack. "East Winds: Rain" meant USA and Pearl Harbor. The US had broken the diplomatic code for some time and was aware of the pending message and was listening for the "Weather" to find out where Japan was going to attack. Officially the message was never intercepted. There is evidence and testimony that the East winds message WAS received but it was lost and never got to those who could take action on it. Not any sort of coverup or conspiracy at that point, just a screwup. Later after the attack when they found out there was a message and they messed up, THEN they tried to coverup the mistake by denying the message existed. This is all part of the scapegoating effort against Admiral Kimmel and General Short.
Also a few days before Pearl Harbor, an American Sub went missing. No one knows for sure what happened but AFTER the war and a comparrison of records of the Japanese Navy suggests that two days before the Attack, the Japanese Sank a US Sub that they discovered. Whether this is the sub that went missing or a coincidence is unknown, even if true... no radio message was received from the sub warning of the Japanese so the Military and the Government did NOT know.
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They did re-deploy the three aircraft carriers out of range a few days before the attack, curiously. And, the Commander of the base rode out on his horse far from the base - and not his usual habit early on Sunday mornings
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You offer this as "proof" they knew? its not any sort of proof.
Fact: the three carriers that were the main target of the Japs were not in port. but this is not some conspiratorial move by the government. Two of the carriers were out LOOKING FOR THE JAPS. The 3rd was ferrying planes to the Marines on Wake Island.
The third wave of Japanese planes were cancelled and Kido Butai turned for home. Had they have been launched as planned the would have caught Admiral Halsey and a carrier coming back into the Harbor. IT WAS THAT CLOSE. The Last Japanese plane had been gone from the Skies of Pearl less than an hour before the carrier showed up. And the horse riding story is just anecdotal and proves NOTHING.
Also for your info it was not the Pearl Harbor base commander Admiral Kimmel that was out riding a Horse. Kimmel was at home, getting ready to go Golfing which he did every Sunday morning.
It was General Marshall back in Washington DC that was out riding. as he did all the time. He was not far from base, he was ON BASE. Ft. Myer has many bridle paths for Horseback riding.
This statement about horseback riding proves you have no clue what in the hell you are talking about.
You go on to finish with a bit of ignorant propaganda from the liberal left conspiracy nutcases:
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Somehow, the Pearl Harbor attack makes the attack on the Twin Towers on 9-11 all the more likely for the Bush Administration to have been indirectly complicit with Al-Queda.... As, they KNEW (and they did), but did NOTHING to stop it, and thus, made it EASIER for the attack to SUCCEED (and it did).
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An attack back in 1941 does NOT influence the likelihood of any such thing 60 years later. The Government did NOT know anymore than We did about Pearl. We knew something was up and/or likely. but we DID NOT KNOW specifics.
Why do you liberal idiots always have to make everything and anything into some sort of Anti-Bush rant?
one final note on a PLenum222 quote:
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No documentation exists that Roosevelt intended this to be used as the American entry into the war, but it's no big jump to assume so.
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Let me translate this from Liberalspeak to plain English....
"There is no proof that Roosevelt intended this to be used as the American entry into the war but we don't need proof. We think it's true, we say it's true, therefore it IS true!"
If you haven't guessed already. liberals are idiots.
Back to the Original Asker.... I apologise for my rant but I cannot stand liberal idiots and their "revisionist history" Nor can I stand people who dont think and have no clue to history yet still offer their two cents as if they know what "should have happened".
B is your answer.
2007-05-14 02:21:35
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answered by CG-23 Sailor 6
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None of the above.
It is believed the British had warned them and they did nothing about it.
2007-05-14 10:54:28
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answered by Anonymous
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