how can God tell us there will be no more sin or tears or pain in heaven?

Question

when lucifer was the first to sin! where in heaven! so only angels can have sin and pain in heaven and somehow we wont?

yeah i drive my youth pastor crazy :)

Answer 1

Think about real seriously.
In development of the human kind many things we could not explain, like thunder, lightning, rain, volcano, earthquakes, death, and so on. With limited knowledge humans believed that someone more powerful causes all those natural phenomenon to happen...and the humans started believing in Gods, many gods.
Then came the unifying theory of religion, from many gods now there was only one GOD, normally different for many people. Then we realized that God, if organized into religion we can control the population and profit from their humble believes.
Bottom line, there is no GOD but natural forces based on everlasting energy.

Answer 2

The Bible describes Heaven in great detail in Revelation chapters 21-22. Nowhere in those chapters is the possibility of sin mentioned. There will be no more death, sorrow, crying, or pain (Revelation 21:4). The sinful are not in Heaven, but the lake of fire (Revelation 21:8). Nothing impure will ever enter Heaven (Revelation 21:27). Outside of Heaven are those who sin (Revelation 22:15). So, the answer is no, there will be no sin in Heaven.



What does that mean for us? If there is no possibility of sin, does that means we will no longer have a free will in Heaven? It seems that in Heaven, or ability to choose will be similar to that of the angels. The angels had a one-time choice to obey God or follow Satan. There is no possibility of further angels sinning and joining Satan in his rebellion. The holy angels are "elect angels" (1 Timothy 5:21). Similar, the elect in Heaven will be "sealed" in their decision to forsake sin and trust in Christ. We will not even have the choice to sin. At the same time, having been delivered from sin and evil, and viewing the wonderful glories of Heaven, we would not choose sin even if we had the choice.

Recommended Resource: What the Bible Says about Heaven & Eternity by Ice & Demy

Answer 3

That's right. Heaven was the testing ground for angels because they were created there. Those who sinned were banished forever. Those who remained faithful are now in heaven eternally, with no sin or pain. Earth is the testing ground for humans. It is here that we make the decision that the angels made in heaven. Once we make that decision, the effect is the same. Either we are banished from heaven eternally, or we enter heaven for an eternity free of sin and suffering.

Answer 4

What does one thing have to do with the other? Because lucifer brought sin on himself, it follows for you, therefore, that there is sin and tears and pain in heaven? One time doesn't mean all the time from then on for everyone!

Answer 5

Hi Carrie you do sound as if you can ask a million questions(teehee) still no harm in that.
The fact is that God will create a new order after the final Judgement and the old order that satan created by his rebellion will be no more, all the Angels in Heaven right now will never ever rebell as they have made their eternal choice to remain faithful to God, and we too will be in this faithful order forever.

Answer 6

There's three Heavens and two Gods to sort out in Bible:
"Heaven": "higher than the heavens": "God" = His Grace
Two Left/Right "Heavens" on "high": "God" in midst = Law

ppl recovering from highs speak of higher power afterward

exhortations about heavens on high:
- mind not high things: Romans 12:16
- be not high-mindead: Romans 11:20
- be not high-mindead: 1Timothy 6:17
Because high-minded is among un-holy: 2Tim3

The GRACE of our Lord Jesus Christ with you all. Amen.

Answer 7

Understanding God's completeness puts a lot of questions to rest forever. There isn't a place in God for sin, pain, tears, evil, etc., so God is telling us truth.

Answer 8

Lucifer and his sinning compatriots were cast out of heaven, there is no sin there now. hence , no pain.

Answer 9

• Is Lucifer a name that the Bible uses for Satan?

The name Lucifer occurs once in the Scriptures and only in some versions of the Bible. For example, the King James Version renders Isaiah 14:12: “How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning!”

The Hebrew word translated “Lucifer” means “shining one.” The Septuagint uses the Greek word that means “bringer of dawn.” Hence, some translations render the original Hebrew “morning star” or “Daystar.” But Jerome’s Latin Vulgate uses “Lucifer” (light bearer), and this accounts for the appearance of that term in various versions of the Bible.

Who is this Lucifer? The expression “shining one,” or “Lucifer,” is found in what Isaiah prophetically commanded the Israelites to pronounce as a “proverbial saying against the king of Babylon.” Thus, it is part of a saying primarily directed at the Babylonian dynasty. That the description “shining one” is given to a man and not to a spirit creature is further seen by the statement: “Down to Sheol you will be brought.” Sheol is the common grave of mankind—not a place occupied by Satan the Devil. Moreover, those seeing Lucifer brought into this condition ask: “Is this the man that was agitating the earth?” Clearly, “Lucifer” refers to a human, not to a spirit creature.—Isaiah 14:4, 15, 16.

Why is such an eminent description given to the Babylonian dynasty? We must realize that the king of Babylon was to be called the shining one only after his fall and in a taunting way. (Isaiah 14:3) Selfish pride prompted Babylon’s kings to elevate themselves above those around them. So great was the arrogance of the dynasty that it is portrayed as bragging: “To the heavens I shall go up. Above the stars of God I shall lift up my throne, and I shall sit down upon the mountain of meeting, in the remotest parts of the north. . . . I shall make myself resemble the Most High.”—Isaiah 14:13, 14.

“The stars of God” are the kings of the royal line of David. (Numbers 24:17) From David onward, these “stars” ruled from Mount Zion. After Solomon built the temple in Jerusalem, the name Zion came to apply to the whole city. Under the Law covenant, all male Israelites were obliged to travel to Zion three times a year. Thus, it became “the mountain of meeting.” By determining to subjugate the Judean kings and then remove them from that mountain, Nebuchadnezzar is declaring his intention to put himself above those “stars.” Instead of giving God credit for the victory over them, he arrogantly puts himself in God’s place. So it is after being cut down to the earth that the Babylonian dynasty is mockingly referred to as the “shining one.”

The pride of the Babylonian rulers indeed reflected the attitude of “the god of this system of things”—Satan the Devil. (2 Corinthians 4:4) He too lusts for power and longs to place himself above God. But Lucifer is not a name Scripturally given to Satan.

Answer 10

i ask people such questions and all they say is to believe in god. I mean how can we with soo many possiblilities that it is all wrong. the truth is that we have no idea if there is god or if we would have to endure pain in heaven. just believe in what your heart tells. and hope that you get some good answers because even I have no idea.