Do you understand what dogma does to people?

Question

Normally I refrain from this kind of thing. Normally I try to be judicious and as pleasant as possible, but this is just ridiculous:

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AsUyLgVLw63bSvKpGyCCfR7d7BR.?qid=20070511122337AAsMsHn

Some guy asks a question and dozens of people blinded by dogma are chomping at the bit to try to save someone. Only about three people realized that the person who asked it was making fun of COLUMBINE! Dylan Klebold, the avatar of the asker, was one of the two kids who murdered all those kids in Colorado, and NO ONE REALIZED IT!

So I ask, is your dogma so deeply ingrained that you ignore history, morality (because don't be fooled, you DO have a moral responsibility to remember this event) and decency?

Kris L

Dogma is not a belief system. A belief system has a reason behind it. I happen to like yours you seem easy to get along with. Dogma is mindless rabidity of faith. Webster's defines it as such:

a point of view or tenet put forth as authoritative without adequate grounds

"Without adequate grounds." That doesn't mean there's no evidence, that means there's no good reason other than "because I said so." This is different than belief. How was I being dogmatic? I was attempting to point out that people should think a bit about things before rushing on because they get caught up in the dogma. And yes, you do have a moral responsiblity. As a human being, we have responsibility to each other to treat each other with dignity. Dylan Kelbold was the product of our, as a society, violating our moral responsibility, and you're Darn right I expect people to remember. 13 innocents died, and 2 more killed themsleves because we shirked our responsibilty. Never Forget.

Audex at Fidelius

I dont' think I was being unfair at all. His avatar's name, not just his picture, but his name was Dylan Klebold. This should make you alot madder than it did me. He was a troll who made a fool of believers. He made a horrible joke about a subject that is NOT funny, to make a statement. It was blatently wrong to do, both because he fooled people into believing he was sincere, and he did it in a horrible way. What got my goat is that it worked, and yes, I really do expect better from people, even on an internet forum.

Answer 1

Good catch - everyone just got too caught up in the words, and missed the bigger picture.

Answer 2

I"m sorry, but your question and explanation actually contain some 'dogma' ... were you aware of THAT? Dylan Kleibold is DEAD, and someone using 'his picture' with the name Dylan K is ONLY USING AN AVATAR rather than saying anything POSITIVE about Columbine ... and if you found that 'question' to be 'making fun of Columbine' I think you are 'reading more into it than the words on the page.' This person was simply asking if it is 'okay' to 'believe in God' but not want to go to a particular church/religion. I can't remember if I answered this particular question, or just one 'very like it' but I gave a 'good answer' ... I'm a Catholic and a 'good Christian' but I don't believe that you MUST be a Christian to go to Heaven, and I don't believe that the Catholic (or any other) church is the ONLY RIGHT WAY to believe in God. That's NOT A DOGMA, it's my 'personal belief' and I always end those with the same sentiment ... I'll see you in Heaven in the end. THAT IS DOGMA if you want it to be ... but it's a 'pretty darned good dogma' for all of that, and I'm going to 'stick with it' ... See you there!
But WHY DO I HAVE A MORAL RESPONSIBILITY TO REMEMBER COLUMBINE? I'm a 'decent' person, but I don't 'remember Columbine' in the 'same way' you seem to remember it ... and WHO ARE YOU TO TELL ME WHAT MY MORALS SHOULD BE in the first place? YOU ARE WRONG when you ask 'silly' questions like this one because you have your own 'particular rant' to make ... DOGMA is just 'a series of beliefs' based on a 'larger belief' ... and 'different dogmas' can be TOTALLY DIFFERENT IDEAS about the same 'thing' (the existence of God, for example) ...
I am SICK AND TIRED of seeing 'dogma' used when a better word would be 'belief system' ... because it becomes a 'weapon' both for and against 'dogma' ... and you are one of those whose 'misuse' of a simple WORD who makes it such a 'bad word' to begin with. Get your DICTIONARY OUT and READ IT ... and stop being such a fool.

Answer 3

That so many people could be that blind makes you wonder how bad a job their churches are doing at teaching critical thinking skills to their flocks.

Oh, wait a minute.

Critical Thinking. Isn't that something our tax-payer funded public schools should be teaching in the classroom?

Apparently, Columbine H.S., like thousands of other high schools across the nation, don't "think" it's an important subject to teach.

That question you referenced is ample proof of that.

Answer 4

Skalite, in my humble opinion, I think it's unfair of you to fault all those people for not recognizing a photograph of Dylan Klebold.

Most Americans ARE familiar with the name, and with the sad and tragic event, but not everyone should be also expected to identify Klebold immediately from a photograph.

What happened that day is most important....not what the guys looked like.

Answer 5

Honestly I almost never look at the avatars/names.

When you post an answer, you never know when your words might touch someone, either the poster who asked the question or someone else who is reading it.

Answer 6

A dogma is the mother of the dog. So, a female dog.

I think there's an english word for that...

Answer 7

Organized religion, namely Christianity and Islam, feed on people's fear, making the indoctrination of children highly psychological and effective when practiced through adulthood.

These religions often promote hate and bigotry, and very often the discrimination of homosexuals. sexual orientation, through peer reviewed studies in the early 90s, was shown to be largely genetic.

Answer 8

I had no clue it was that kid but I also wasn't trying to convert him.

Answer 9

What the heck????? ok their is something wrong their

Answer 10

anything with the word DOG scares me.