Women should not be pastors or have any role of authority in the church...agree?

Question

Isn't this what the Apostle Paul says in Romans?

I do not believe this statement...but, do you fundamentalist Christians, who believe the Bible should be interpreted literally agree?

If you do not agree with this statement...how do you pick and choose which verses to follow literally?

Answer 1

I dont agree, now in the 21st. century that is no longer applicable in the same way that some religions dont eat pork because until refrigeration was invented pork and other foods would rot quickly and dirty conditions could cause deseases.

When women had to look after their home and children (until quite recently in some Western countries and still do so in certain less developed countries) when women were not given any education or means to support themselves except by marriage, THEN it could even be justified because you would need someone (it so happened it was the men) with an education or some form of "gift" to run a church (or anything for that matter). Just as well that men chose celibacy as part of the vows because it would have been very hard economically to support a family in most ministries - until it became "OK" for priests to marry and THAT caused many wars and deaths AND THINGS DID CHANGE.
Now that women in the West have emerged from their passive existence and can CHOSE to be a housewife or a nuclear scientist they should also be able to chose, if their vocation leads them and if the required learning and studies are achieved, to be a priest, minister, reverend, rabbi, monk, muezzin, ayatolah, pope, bishop, pastor, etc, etc
Just in the same way that nowadays it is safe to eat pork and other foods and just as "normal" as christian ministers, reverends, pastors are married and that does not cause a stir any more.

Be good and do good - be fair and reasonable.

And for goodness sake STOP fighting in the name of ANY religion. That is DEFFINITELY SOMETHING ALL THE RELIGIOUS FANATICS, RADICALS and IDEALISTS SHOULD TAKE AND APPLY LITERALLY FROM ALL THEIR SCRIPTURES instead of all the petty nonsense.

Answer 2

Women are as much capable of having roles as an authority as men. Unfortunately women were never valued as an equal to men even in the Bible.

The Bible can not be re-written, but the people who read the Bible should be more open to the fact that the role of women has changed drastically. We live in the 21st century, we women are not only housewifes and mothers, we women are company leaders, public speakers, women go to universities and colleges. Why should we not be an authority in church???? Do we crush the men's egos???? oh...pour guys.
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Answer 3

This question's for fundamentalists
I'm not
Most non-fundamentalists will have no problems with a woman taking a leading role in her Church Ministry.
There are hundreds of ordained women in various churches.
Fundamentalist churches do not ordain women.
Fundamentalist Christians will not attend churches that ordain women.
Fundamentalist Christians have their own Fundamentalist Churches, Fundamentalist pastors, Fundamentalist heaven and Fundamentalist hell.

Answer 4

What a can of worms you opened. I am a Christian woman, and I agree with you. I'm open to someone proving me wrong, so long as they can do it Biblically.

I have no problem with my position in churh or in my home, where my husband is the head. (There are some real pluses to that situation too, ladies.) I quite frankly do not understand why women feel threatened by what the Bible says about our role, but that's just me.

Answer 5

No, and apostle Paul doesn't say that. He said he wasn't "currently" allowing women to move ahead. He told the elders to teach the women first.

In fact, Paul had a woman who was a minster and leader to him, and mentioned her in Romans 16. So there can't be an argument that he Paul did not want any women to be ministers and leaders to men, just like men do.

Read "Beyond the Curse: Women Called to Ministry." by Aida Spencer. She went to seminary, so knows history of the Bible, as well as Greek and Hebrew. She looked at every single Biblical passage people use to say that women cannot have authority, and are not equal with men, and blew every one of the arguements out of the water. And she looked plainly at SCRIPTURE, not philosophy. Check it out, blew my mind!!

Answer 6

I am a spiritualist. Which means that I don't believe in organized religion.
And this is one of the reasons.
The bible is a historical account of happenings in the past based on some people's perceptions of those happenings at the time.
The bible is a story of the past. However, it is not a docterine. However, unfortunately, Christian organized religions and others use it in that manner. So sad.
It's a way for Puritans and others to control their flocks. And especially women. If you look at our country, all women whom have made a difference, wouldn't have changed things if they followed the "teachings" of the bible. Or any Christian religion for that matter.
Later, some of them were considered saints or were reveared for their accomplishments and societal contributions.
Christian leaders use this particular part of the bible to keep women "in line". Based on their own fears of inadequecy or their need to dominate. It has nothing to do with God or Christ.
On the otherhand, if women continue to believe and go along with it, then personally, I think that those women deserve to be controlled. It's just my opinion.
Both men and women equally contribute to their relationships, families, jobs etc. And they also contribute spiritually just as equally. If all things are held equal within that family, household or relationship.
I do not choose to pick or choose certain verses in the bible to live by. As I do not agree that the bible is docterine from God.
As I stated earlier, it is a historical account.
I derive my lifestyle and make the choices I do based on what God and Christ tell me in my heart.
When I need an answer to what is right or wrong, I pray and God answers me. It's pretty well that simple for me. I don't have to check with others to make sure I am on the right track. I just trust God to give me the answer. And he always does.
I am a strong, liberal, spiritual woman. And I don't need anyone to tell me what to believe, or verify it.
The quickest and best way to get answers from God on how you should live your life are as close as a prayer away. Don't need to be a certain building or verify God's answer with other people.
Why should I question God's word to me? Ask other people if the answers he gives me are right for me?
That's just assinign.........................
If I had to rely on what other imperfect humans think about it, then why would I need God?
Hello..............................

Answer 7

Women should not hold the Priesthood. That doesn't mean that they can't have important responsibilities in church, but the Priesthood authority is given to men. This is based on God's order, and not just Paul's words.

Answer 8

There was a Sunday school teacher of 25 years who was removed from her position a year ago because the pastor suddenly decided on a "literal translation of Timothy".

Answer 9

In my opinion, the bible is the number one guide book to life, don't do what it says not to do, and do what it says.
I absolutely 100% agree with the fact that Women should not be pastors, etc.
Now, that may sound sexist, but the fact is that Men are closer to God than women. Which is why Man was created first, why Men are the head of the household, and why there have been only Male prophets.

Answer 10

I agree. Women are more prone to be controlled by emotions, they're made that way. But you probably don't believe that, given the context of this question.

The egalitarian approach is to say that Paul’s restrictions were temporary guidance for Corinth and Ephesus only. It was a cultural matter, and a different approach is needed in Western culture today. I find a few problems in the cultural solution: Paul connects his argument not only with culture, but also with creation. Also, he puts his instructions in a generalizing context—"in all the congregations of the saints...as the Law says...what I am writing to you is the Lord’s command" (14:33-37).

But Paul also argues theologically: "The head of every man is Christ, and the head of the woman is man, and the head of Christ is God" (11:3). People argue at great length on the meaning of "head," as to whether it involves authority or merely source, but the point I wish to make does not depend on the meaning of "head." My point is that Paul is tying his argument into something that is timeless and not based on culture. Just as Christ and God are equal in divinity, but distinct in relationship within the Godhead, so also males and females can be equal and yet have distinct roles in relationship to one another.

Egalitarians often cite Gal. 3:28: "There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus." They conclude from this that the church should not make any distinctions on the basis of ethnicity, socio-economic status or gender. In Galatians, Paul argues that the equality of Jews and Gentiles in Christ necessitates social equality in the church. In Gal. 3, however, Paul may not be addressing social roles. He is talking about salvation and proclaiming equal worth; he is not addressing the question of interchangeable roles.

There are other verses that talk specifically about church leadership. Nothing in the New Testament implies that gentiles cannot have authority in the church. Nothing implies that slaves cannot have authority. But some verses do indicate that women cannot have authority.

So my personal opinion is that they may teach, just not teach grown males.(they can teach the kids the basic fundamentals of Christianity)