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I have read somewhere that majority of catholic christian countries are somehow not as progressive as opposed to other countries which have a different religion. what are your thoughts on this?

please try to answer objectively and avoid offending others.

2007-05-11 07:32:28 · 14 answers · asked by shenanigan_rower 2 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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Pastor Billys says you need to read two books

1) http://www.catholicity.com/mccloskey/westernciv.html
How the Catholic Church Built Western Civilization by Thomas E. Woods Jr a professional historian with degrees from Harvard and Columbia

2) Triumph by Harry Crocker III

the first book will totally dispell this myth of lack of progress in Catholic Christian nations.
fact is this, at the time of the Islamic invasions of Europe it was primarily the Southern Catholics doing all the fighting and resisting while the Northern Europeans revolted and started developing their economies.

2007-05-11 13:27:16 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

The only objective answer is this - It all depends on what you mean when you use the terms "progressing" and "progressive".

You have to be more specific. The moral ideals of a properly instructed Catholic are going to be very different (even contradictory) to secular humanistic standards. So appears as a lack of progress, again - from secular humanistic POV, will appear as spiritual progress from a Christian POV.

See what I am saying? It all depends on the standards you are applying to the word "progress".

2007-05-14 01:40:16 · answer #2 · answered by Daver 7 · 0 0

Notwithstanding Catholic apologists, spin doctors and PR agents that wish to refer to a mythical representation of the past, you are right in your assumption that all is not well with predominantely Catholic countries.

Take Brazil for example- a nation formed out of the reluctant end of slavery around 1880 having been run by the Jesuits and the Vatican as a giant slave colony for hundreds of years.

Now that the Catholic church is on the decline, ordinary Brazilians have embraced religions that offer more than fear, idols and witchcraft.

No wonder the Pope has made the extraordinary flight to Brazil to try and strengthen the failing church.

In the meantime, its economy along with many Latin American and Catholic nations are suffering. One ray of hope is Mexico which has strongly sought to free itself of its Catholic chains and may well overcome many deep social problems such as crime and poverty over the next 20 years.

2007-05-11 17:50:24 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

No.. If you imply through numbers then certainly USA has the most important quantity of Christians within the World, however in percent it isn't, and there are lots of different international locations who're "extra Christian", even Italy. As for presidents, they are not particularly Christian.. I suppose they simply misinform get sufficient citizens. You particularly believe any person as wise as a president would not be Atheist? I am no longer announcing all Christians are dumb however I simply believe it opposes each and every different.. Like in Israel, our president (no longer PM) has a tendency to cite the Bible (OT) and stuff but lives entire secular tradition. I do not know the way to give an explanation for it, however it is only just like the exhibit Big Brother, they are going to do something to get ranking.

2016-09-05 17:16:52 · answer #4 · answered by ? 4 · 0 0

religion goes against progress.you can see that around the world.countries that have strict religions like islam are the less progressive in technolology,to communication to other countries and to many other things.the stronger you believe the less you progress.in europe most of the western countries are supposed to be catholics but thats just on the papers because they do not pay any attention to it,so those countries are the progressive ones.the eastern european countries however are not like that because they are orthodox and that means more strict.so they do not progress.Greece for example is a country which the 98% of the population are orthodox.

2007-05-11 07:51:53 · answer #5 · answered by Dargian 2 · 0 1

Progressive is a pretty broad term. Socially, politically, technologically? Brazil is very socially progressive and is the largest predominantly Catholic country in the world.

2007-05-11 07:38:38 · answer #6 · answered by mikehunt29 5 · 2 0

Catholic Church is cursed. Its doctrines are demonic and it's teachings deny Christ. The majority of catholic christian seek to obtain their own righteousness by following the Pope and his traditions, rather than receive the righteousness of Christ by trusting Him and His Word. Now, many countries and it's people will suffer because of this.

2007-05-11 22:58:20 · answer #7 · answered by House Speaker 3 · 0 0

I've lived in Yugoslavia, Hungary, Canda, Mexico. An analysis of each country would be very interesting for me to write, and probably for you to hear.

Yugoslavia: Religion supressed during communism. Was not a member f soviet block. Prosperity was the rule because of connections with the west. Yugoslavia hosted olympics, exported cars to the US, won socceer matches. Still, religion was the roots that defined people. In Medjugorje the Virgin Mary apperaed to five kids predicting the war. The Fanciscans who reported this to the media were put into prison. The war itself was inspired by nationalism. ("where there is one Serb, it is Serbia"). now after the wars, there is little left of Yugoslavia except fragments. Life is hard, but people are returning to religion like unimaginable twenty years ago. In this case, Catholicism warned against disaster, and lack of tolerance was what ripped the country apart.

Hungary: Catholicism also supressed under communism, but more extremely. Churches were disassembled. Priests thrown out of office. The country was under Soviet opression. Advance was not a rule under Communism. Now progress is still to be seen in Hungary. Corrupt politicians who were elected based on lies - former communists with a new EU slogan (the president admitted: "we lied in the morning, in the eveneing and before going to bed"). Now the economy is the worst in eastern europe, progress is still to be seen. Catholicism is linked to the Hungarian identity that is mildly nationalistic - and conservative, seen to oppose Communist moral corruption.

Canada: Used to have French Catholic missionaries for natives spread out throughout the country. they were among the pioneers in Canada. Now the French have mostly withdrawn into Quebec, Catholicism in the west was maintained largely by Irish immigrants who were very conservative in their theology, and fiew in number. Progress is obviously present. Immigration is what keeps up the progress. Without immigration the country's population would be unsustainable. The country is largely prodestant, but mostly atheist and has many other diverse religions. Human rights is their religion, Cathoicism is suffering.

Mexico: 80-90% Catholic. The church and the government play a fine game of cat and mouse. The church holds public opinion, and abortion is illegal (except now in Mexico City). The country is overpopulated with a growing middle class, that doesn't pay taxes. The Church is against government corruption but the government will always be corrupt. The biggest threat that both Church and government agree on is narcotraficing. The question is this: is the economy stagnant because of Cathoicism, or are people so Catholic because they are generally poor. The center of each town is the cathedral. Hiearchy is respected, and priests have authority almost competing with politicians.

This is even more true of other south american countries.

"Liberation theology" was a socalist movement that wanted to take advantage of this power in the Americas to restore social equality. It was crushed by Cardinal ratzinger and Pope John Paul under the teaching that Catholicism is opposed to moral corruption, but is against using it's power to bring justice to the worldy life.

most economies agree, it is Corruption that keeps economies stagnant. When a person has a heaven to look forward to, he is less likely to fight for his personal rights, therefore opression is more common, like in the Americas.

2007-05-14 14:39:18 · answer #8 · answered by the good guy 4 · 0 0

I don't think we should describe countries as Christian or non-Christian (or Catholic).

Reasons:
- Christianity transcends nationality.
- Is everyone a Christian in a Christian country? Probably not.
- Does the Christian country only have laws based on Christianity? Probably not.
- I believe in freedom of religion. There would not be freedom of religion in a Christian country.

Can you name one country that is truly Christian (not counting Vatican City)?

With love in Christ.

2007-05-11 17:52:05 · answer #9 · answered by imacatholic2 7 · 1 1

poorer countries are those with warmer weather usually (except for places like Saudi where they get rich off natural resources that foreigners can exploit and pay for). The colder the country, the richer the country. In colder climates, people work more, in warmer ones, they play more.

2007-05-11 07:50:54 · answer #10 · answered by IKB 3 · 0 0

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