If a god/some gods do exist, but have *not* created the world, do they still have any moral right to mix within its affairs? Unless it is done in order to help *everybody*, which is something that no god would do (they either help only the Chosen Ones, or do that AND punish everybody else)
So, if they do mix, are they still worthy of worship?
And if they don't, are they still worthy of being taken into consideration?
My guess is that, once you go along with evolution, you have got to be an atheist, at least in its sense of "believer in no god".
[second posting, cause the first time it only got me two useless answers]
2007-05-11 04:05:40 · 14 answers · asked by Trillian, Moon Daisy 3 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
Ok, my bad, I'll rephrase: once you go along with NON-CREATIONISM. Cause, honestly *blush*, I think that evolution and creation could happen together, as long as god has started the process at the erm well beginning of times, and then took his hands off it.
2007-05-11 04:15:43 · update #1
Emiliano - I don't know what I am yet. I am still searching. I ask such stuff because I need answers, not because I want to prove some stiff convictions. Your answer seemed almost reasonable, until the last phrase. Life is so cruel sometimes.
2007-05-11 04:32:47 · update #2
They must have some right; the Greeks believed that their current set of gods overthrew the Titans and took over, which meant that they weren't the "creators". Yet they still screwed with the Greeks repeatedly.
Atheists existed before evolution was discovered, but it became "better defensible" after evolution was stumbled upon.
2007-05-11 04:14:18 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 0⤋
Is it really a question of moral right? I think it is more a question of the god in question's power. You've left that completely open. My guess is that any such god would do whatever it could within its power. Whether those actions would be benign or malicious would depend on its temperament or upon perspective. For instance, if that god provided a fisherman with a great deal of fish, it would be great for the fisherman, but bad for the fish. Or he could conjure up a barrel of wine at a wedding party, which might seem good, but could cause health problems or trouble operating heavy machinery.
2007-05-11 11:21:18 · answer #2 · answered by 2 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋
If God is pulling the strings then there is no free will and no sin, except those sins created by God. God is then responsible for all actions and interactions. That makes rightiousness, heaven and hell moot.
It don't work like that.
Evolution is a natural course of events. When humans are involved free will and human direction is also involved.
God doesn't intervine in general things anymore. God has tried to show man the way and man simply refuses to see it. Free will.
So man goes along with things in an evolutionary manner. That, alone, does not make him an atheist. He accepts God and then goes about life as he so chooses.
2007-05-11 11:15:36 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 0⤋
[If a god/some gods do exist, but have *not* created the world, do they still have any moral right to mix within its affairs? ]
Do we? Seriously. What gives us the right to meddle in the affairs of chickens and housecats? Polytheists think the gods are to humans as humans are to other animals.
[Unless it is done in order to help *everybody*, which is something that no god would do (they either help only the Chosen Ones, or do that AND punish everybody else)]
Why do you say no god would do this? I'm not familiar with that theological position.
[So, if they do mix, are they still worthy of worship?]
There is no reason to worship a deity that does not interact with you, period.
[And if they don't, are they still worthy of being taken into consideration?]
I'm sorry, I don't understand the question.
Evolution happens whether the lions understand it or not, and the gods exist independent of our belief and/or interaction with them.
Belief in evolution is not an impediment or a requirement for belief in any deity.
2007-05-11 11:13:19 · answer #4 · answered by LabGrrl 7 · 2⤊ 1⤋
Evolution does not necessary lead to atheism only militant atheists like Richard Dawkins believe that. I happen to be a Theistic Evolutionist and there is many in the world of science. Evolution is just a process of creation in stages so it is quite possible that it was started by some divine action and is guided.
2007-05-11 11:17:28 · answer #5 · answered by jack lewis 6 · 1⤊ 0⤋
As an Evolutionist and a Christian i have to say thats kind of a though question
I believe that God DID created everything, what unfortunetly dosent fit with your line of thought. I also believe that he is constantly trying to help everybody (I believe that he loves everybody, not just the bunch of people who worship him, and so he is trying to help everybody). Well the thing is NONE OF THIS GO AGAINST THE EVOLUTION THEORY!
God and The Evolution theory are not mutually exclusive!!
If you are an atheist and is trying to disproof God, try somewhere else, Evolution will not provide the evidence you want. Science will not provide the evidence you want.
2007-05-11 11:21:54 · answer #6 · answered by Emiliano M. 6 · 2⤊ 1⤋
Some people believe that God created the universe and then let evolution take over. I would say that they are just as wrong as atheists...but you don't have to be an atheist to believe in evolution.
Peace
2007-05-11 11:11:37 · answer #7 · answered by Mark 3 · 2⤊ 0⤋
The supposed connection between the theory of evolution and atheism exists mainly in the minds of fundamentalist Christians. As for the gods you mention, they are just as imaginary as the one that the Abrahamic faiths worship. As an atheist, I see no merit to your argument.
2007-05-11 11:19:24 · answer #8 · answered by Diogenes 7 · 1⤊ 1⤋
I have christian friends who believe in evolution. They do not see any problem integrating evolution with christianity. One of my geology professors said he was christian and believed in evolution.
Saying that if you believe in evolution then you have to be an atheist is not right. Even saying, if you are an atheist then you have to believe in evolution is not right either.
There are some fundamentalist people who take these views though. If you believe in evolution, then in their eyes you are not a christian.
2007-05-11 11:14:14 · answer #9 · answered by A.Mercer 7 · 3⤊ 0⤋
Actually, most faiths besides Fundamentalist Christianity and Fundamentalist Islam accept that the divine created evolution and guided its progress.
Evolution does not of necessity lead to the atheistic conclusion, nor does the atheistic conclusion of necessity lead to the evolutionary conclusion. The two are non-equivalent.
2007-05-11 11:10:33 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 4⤊ 1⤋