...As a hypothesis, if we take the Bible for granted, I think he could *and* he would want to create such a rock. After all, he is the one who has created a being whose will he can't subdue (without altering the being, but then he could also make the rock lighter). I think he can set barriers to himself, and he also does it.
I think that, if he existed, he would be quite powerful, but not *all powerful*. Which is actually a point in his favour, making him more interesting as a character and less guilty of the mess on Earth (...and other planets).
And then I also don't think that, if he exists, he would send the non-believers to hell, since talking to them would be quite a funny pastime, for both of the parties.
But then, here, I guess I'm already not talking about the Christian God anymore...
2007-05-11 03:41:03 · 9 answers · asked by Trillian, Moon Daisy 3 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
Acid that's depressing - I really hope you are wrong, cause I love logic more than *anything* else...
2007-05-11 03:48:19 · update #1
(further musing) but then if logic can be defied in such a violent manner, maybe it does not deserve my love after all...
2007-05-11 03:51:00 · update #2
OH, OH, I have forgotten to insert a really important negation - typo, typo! I meant -
he would *NOT* send the non-believers to hell, since etc.
2007-05-11 03:54:07 · update #3
By logical impossibility I mean something really strong, like "walking on water *and* not walking on water at the same time and from the same point of view". p and not p. Now if he exists and can do *that*, it'd make me really, really sad.
2007-05-11 04:00:53 · update #4
Well some things are impossible. Some people say that god can only do things that are logically possible to do, but what is? Is it logically possible to walk on water? Is it logically possible to rise from the dead? Is it logically possible to stand above time, space and all other dimensions - and still exist? I'd say that everything which violates the laws of physics are logically impossible and thus omnipotence is logically impossible.
The best way to disprove the existence of a omnipotent god, is the omnipotence paradox. Most Christians envision their god as being omnipotent, but the biblical god isn't...he was defeated by mere iron chariots in the book of judges. He's not powerful at all. It's not that the Christian god wouldn't send us to hell, he can't, he's too weak. Think about it, If god had the ability to cast Lucifer into hell or destroy him he would have done that when he had the chance instead of allowing Lucifer to supposedly torment god's chosen people throughout history. The fact that Lucifer is free to upset the plans of the god shows that god doesn't have the power needed to contain him or other self-willed individuals.
2007-05-11 03:52:22 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 0⤋
There's ONE possible solution to this paradox. God, as the omnipotent, omnipresent allmighty being, IS EVERYWHERE, right? So this means he is above the rock, around the rock, under the rock and also, he is the rock.
In this state, he can do whatever he wants, create worlds, cause biblical floods.... whatever.
And of course, MOVE rocks.
But to LIFT a rock, he needs a starting position to lift from (surface of earth) and a direction (up, the opposite of gravity).
To acquire both, he first needs to loose his omnipresence (so he can get a starting point at the surface of the earth). The easiest way he would do this, and he supposedly already did that, is to take a corporeal form.
So here we have god in a human form, for example. In such form he has only limited power (limited with muscle strength) and can only lift a rock of a certain weight.
Let us remember here that god himself, in his allmighty form, created that very rock which he, in his corporeal form, couldn't lift.
So the logical conclusion is: Yes, god can create a rock so heavy he can't lift, but because of that doesn't lose his omnipotence. Quite the opposite: he can take a form in which the same being potent enough to create a rock, is weak enough to not be able to lift it. The second he drops this form he is able to lift it again.
2007-05-11 06:30:32 · answer #2 · answered by Ymmo the Heathen 7 · 2⤊ 0⤋
Well, He's not a philosophical construct or a compelling or interesting character in a novel -- He's the eternal creator of the universe and is just plain Is-Who-He-Is, despite whatever the feeble objects in His creation might think about what He should be like -- for a feeble object who is a minute speck in comparison to the infinite and eternal God to talk the way you do is just absurd -- sadly your inane adsurbness is more and more becoming the norm in this mixed-up self-centred, self-indulgent culture -- such ridiculous and misplaced conceit...
2007-05-11 04:06:53 · answer #3 · answered by Zee 6 · 0⤊ 1⤋
I agree. I don't believe in gods, but if a god were to exist, 'all-powerful' would be a silly thing to describe him/her with.
I actually think that if a god were to exist, he created a rock so small that he completely forgot about it. We call that rock planet Earth.
2007-05-11 03:48:28 · answer #4 · answered by ? 6 · 2⤊ 1⤋
You are correct when you logically arrive at the conclusion that the Christian god cannot exist.
2007-05-11 03:49:41 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 1⤋
Thor will break rock with his might. Then puny Christian God will be able to lift rock
2007-05-11 03:46:18 · answer #6 · answered by Southpaw 7 · 2⤊ 1⤋
God, like his followers, often defies logic.
2007-05-11 03:45:35 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 1⤋
god is getting a bit old and muddled. so far he has only produced christian rock you cannot listen to.
2007-05-11 04:32:57 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋
man you are boring, I bet your friends are few lol, you are hard work I need a lie down
2007-05-11 03:46:27 · answer #9 · answered by galatianwarrior 2 · 0⤊ 4⤋