Why do I get a thumbs down from a gay person?

Question

What I said was if I as a straight christian women have to live in a society that accepts gay marriage then why can't my children pray in school. I pay my taxes like gay people and I'm curious to know why Christians can't have the same civil rights. If gay people can group themselves then why is their a double standard when Christians do? By the way I hate no person, because of their personal choices.

Just because a person is gay doesn't mean they can't he closed minded.

I'm giving you a thumbs down blackbyrus, because I get the same feeling from you, that you probably get from hateful radicals. Your assertion that I'm ignorant to these facts that you stated are way off the mark. Do you have children? If you do then this fairytale of quiet time to pray at school does not exist and if it does the children are unaware. I'm sure that is so no one gets offended or their atheist parents don't sue the school.

You guys all sound so scripted and defensive. I wasn't asking for a history on homosexuality. I want to know where is the tolerance from gay people when approached with a straight christians opionion.

Nobody force me to tolerate anything I don't want to. There happens to be gay people that I love dearly. In the end we all sin and we all have to answer for our lives that we lead.

Answer 1

1) Dont assume that it was a gay person who gave you a thumbs down. We gay people have got a lot of straight allies who support us and are just as likely to react negatively to what you say.

2) Don't worry about the thumbs down you get from other people -- unless you have truly thought it through and feel that you made a mistake. If you feel confident about your post, don't worry about others' reaction. There are lots or crazies here and you can't please everyone. As a conservative gay guy, I get often get thumbs down for my posts here, ...
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... but I don't sweat it.

Answer 2

mainly the issue has little to do with the "right" to pray in school. It is a matter of separation of church and state. No one is actually removing your right to worship, or to identify and group with other Christians. If it is a public school, and therefore receiving largely government funds, then it is a governmental institution. Therefore, the separation of religion from government applies.

Religion is a personal thing, it belongs at home. The same goes for gay marriage (tho i don't see your correlation between that and prayer in school.) It is a personal choice of the couple to get married, so its no one else's business, including the state. That is the best relation i can make between the two.

Frankly, you need to display the connection a bit better, cause it looks like you are comparing apples and oranges at this point.

Answer 3

we dont get an opportunity to preach about how normal homosexual people are, or have a pow wow about sexuality during school. So, why do you feel that prayer is necessary? You need time out to pray.
I am a christian. I just disagree with this philosophy. I believe that all people should be treated with respect. If you wont your personal values then you do that on your own time. Just like the muslim child who need to pray has to take there own time out without the rest of the class. SO should a christian person.
You dont need prayer in school for prayer to continue.
You can pray anytime day or night in your head...

Answer 4

I didn't give you a thumbs down.

Children can pray at school, but on their own, or make a sort of 'group' that can have meetings afterwards. I actually just answered a question where i said, forcing your religion/beliefs on others should not be allowed. That's why I actually support people at school forming groups. That way they can discuss, pray, preach etc. I had one at my school. We weren't being forced to pray, so a teacher made a group where you could go during breaks, and do your thing.

It's nice that you are supporting gay marriage. But remember gay marriage is mostly because of equal rights, and it's religion that's preventing this. People tend to think that their religion should be used in the law, not realising that others are humans and deserve rights, as well as having different relgions and beliefs.

I am not in USA, so I wouldn't know why you don't have the same rights. Here the law prohibits any discrimination based on religion, race, gender, sexual orientation etc. (In fact my country, South Africa, was the first that made discrimination based on sexual orientation illegal).

Lastly, ask yourself, who would choose to be gay? Especially when you are subject to such amounts of hatred. What about those gay teens that comit suicide because they were scared of their parents and society of knowing they're gay?

Answer 5

Being gay is not a choice ... religion is.

Christians have the same civil rights as gay people ... and many more besides.



OH LOOK! A down-thumb! Now, did that come from a gay person? Or a straight person who disagrees with what I say? Hm, let me guess ...


UPDATE:
We do tolerate your opinion: a down-thumb, just like YOU have used for ever answer here, simply indicates disagreement. When an answer really is intolerable, I use the Report Abuse button.

You need to relax a little.

UPDATE 2:
oh, and now we get that old stand-by "I have gay friends" ROFL

"Love the sinner, but hate the sin" is one of the viler hypocrisies of the Christians - a glib sound-bite to hide behind, rather than having to consider us as real people, with real feelings and real emotions.

If you hate me for what I am, through no choice of my own (and which causes no harm to you or anyone else), then you hate me as a person. What gives you that right?
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Answer 6

seperation of Church and state
thats the reason you'll be given.

personally i can't see whats wrong with it, provided that the schools don't force a religion on all students..

i wouldn't go as far as saying it's double standard.


"straight christian women have to live in a society that accepts gay marriage"

you don't have to accept gay marriage, it's still technically illegal in most places, there are Civil Unions, but that's entirely state side and nothign to do with the church at all (it's nicknamed gay marriage, but not anything to do with marriage really).

sexuality isn't a choice by the way, religion is, you can't compare religion to sexuality, because one is choice, the other is the way the person was born, like being born a women, or being born of a different creed.

you sound like you only tolerate homosexuals because you're forced to ( could be wrong, thats just my interpretation of the tone of your question). most people can accept that it's just the way people are.. they aren't choosing to be like that, and there are quite a number of people out there that wish they wasn't like it.

schools should be free to "allow" religion, but not activley promote it, for example allowing students a classroom or something for 5 minutes a day to pray..

eitherway, the "why do i get a thumbs down from a gay person" is a poor generalisation, 1) you can't tell who thumbs downed you or not, 2)most gay people don't have a problem with religion, so long as it isn't inflicting suffering upon others.

Answer 7

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Answer 8

Being gay is not a choice. It's not something you become either, so let's knock off all that crap about 'promotion of the gay lifestyle' (whatever 'gay lifestyle' means).

You don't get to chose who you love. Nobody gets that choice, not even straight people.

People like us have been brainwashed into believing that they are sick and unworthy human beings the way they were born, by people like you, who have only one agenda: that is to make life as miserable as possible for gay people.

Sad, because I see so many good people falling for the lies and narrow thinking of the Christian right.

Being gay is about so much more than s ex, it is about life, love and happiness and there is nothing wrong with that.

Nobody can take this away from us, unless we allow it.

And, I didn't give you a thumbs down.

EDIT:

Love is NOT a sin

Answer 9

School is a place to learn about academics.

Church is the place to learn about the deity of your choice.

As I understand it you can pray anytime anywhere - your child CAN pray in school there just isn't time set aside for it, but they can pray while going from one class to another, at recess, before meals, whenever they want.

And by the way gay marriage has not been accepted yet, we are still struggling for that right.

Answer 10

Let me be as civil as I can possibly be.

If two men want to get married, you don't have to attend the wedding or engage in the ritual.
You are free to include or exclude yourself based on personal belief or opinion.
This means that when two men get married, you cannot be harmed.

If a teacher leads a class in prayer, every student in the class must attend to it and engage in the ritual.
This creates a social atmosphere in which children raised in a faith not represented by the chosen prayer may feel excluded or alienated from their peers, or worse yet BY their peers, who may gain some sense of superiority by having their personal beliefs officially upheld.
This means when children are led in prayer, harm is clearly possible.

That's why.

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Answer 11

Your original question is "Why do I get a
thumbs down from a gay person?"

How do you KNOW the person giving
you a thumbs down is gay?

My favorite quote:

"Men and women who are comfortably heterosexual aren't obsessed with stamping out homosexuality. Normal, non-neurotic people don't care what other people do in the privacy of their own homes. Normal heterosexual men don't spend their Saturday nights hanging around gay bars to beat up gays--they're out with women. It is by no means coincidental that so many homophobes are also misogynists."
- Philip Slater