Here's my "observations"---Go ahead and bash me, but this is just what I see with my own two eyes
There's an island off the coast where I live, I inquired recently about properties there because I'd been interested in buying there about 10 years ago. I learned that the gay male population has grown to around 20%, and many people, esepcially families, are moving off the island. Why? They say that the gay males are "militant" and flamboyant and "demonstrative" and they don't want their children around this, and they run a lot of the local government. Property values are declining. I hear there's an island off NYC that has the same thing happening.
I am a trained health scientist--three degrees. I've read several articles, during my education, pertaining to gestational effects of xenobiotic hormones (exogenous hormones) on brain development. One article that stands out was where they exposed female rats in utero (that means before they were born) to higher amounts of testosterone
2007-05-10
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and they did the same thing to male rates, but with estrogen excess. The rats when mature behaved as the opposite gender, the females were dominant and mounted other females and males, the males were submissive and allowed themselves to be mounted. Yes, these were rats, but there are other studies which point to either genetic predisposition for xenobiotic effects or purely hormonal effects upon the brain. Now, this isn't so far fetched of a notion, however I know this is highly offensive to gays even so. But, it makes the most sense, particularly once you examine the SPECTRUM of homosexuality, it's wide variances.
--my last point, as a married female...I find that the anti-monogamist movement in the gay male agenda, is a violent threat to rights of females. In every society and culture where there are not monogamous marriages, females are chattel, they suffer, they lose rights, they are abused, as are children.
Those are my observations. Bash away!
2007-05-10
11:59:11 ·
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I didn't buy there, read carefully, people are warning others that it's gotten very bad "like a rest stop"
2007-05-10
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The question is: Why do gay males hate females and want to remove their rights?
2007-05-10
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Hey, wow, what an enlightening thread! I was just fascinated by the responses! I just want mainly to word my sense of extreme caution about anti-monogamy, it's not as though females haven't fought long and hard for whatever rights they have, and there are those who want them to revert to the 12th century in abundance!
FEMALES AND CHILDREN NEED ACTIVE PROTECTION and this means a country must support monogamous marriage. Females are reproductively different and power-wise, at a disadvantage to males, so I must reiterate that gay militants in their quest for what they term "equal rights" of marriage, which would not be a monogamist marriage (Study by Seitz showed 90% of them would not be) and their desire to remove taboos from adultery to fit their definition of marriage---ALL of this will desperately hurt females being in the context of such a marriage, and since activists want no distinction, adulterous nonmonogamous marriages will mostly harm females and children. Take Care
2007-05-11
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The man thru history has always kept women in the shadows. Just as we get out of the closet and get to vote and have rights when we're beat (domestic violence) any way they can they get their way. Just get in where you fit in. This is a big world just mind your own business and find a place that you are comfortable.
2007-05-10 12:13:58
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answered by Luv2no is in the house 7
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I don't hate females and want to remove their rights. I think women are great. That's really weird actually that this area has changed so much. Usually when LGBT people enter an area, because they have so much expendable income from having few or no children, the property values increase. I think it's called gentrification, and LGBT people are known for doing it. So that is really weird.
As for your research, it goes against what you're saying for the gay males on this island. You're saying they're militant, yet your rat study says that the males are to be submissive, that's really odd.
But as for your study, I think it's interesting, you'd probably find it further interesting that study shows that every older brother a man has increases his chances of being gay by 33%. Neat stuff.
Now as for this "my last point, as a married female...I find that the anti-monogamist movement in the gay male agenda, is a violent threat to rights of females. In every society and culture where there are not monogamous marriages, females are chattel, they suffer, they lose rights, they are abused, as are children."
This is outdated now, at least in my area. Modern LGBT people are more and more monogamous. The old movement of free love of the 70s has been replaced again because people find that free love isn't fulfilling.
But I will disagree with you about the lack of monogamy being bad for women in all societies. In the USA there's a new type of polygamy in which women can also take multiple men. So while I agree that polygamy favouring men can be negative for women, I think it's fine if the women also have that freedom, and everyone is consenting adults.
Anyways, to close off, I'd like to say that I'm sad for you that the gay people in your area are like this. However if you think about it, there must be a reason. Maybe these gay people have been so beaten and bruised by their society that they're seeking a type of isolation now. Which is even more terribly sad.
But we're not all like that, I can assure you of that. I hope they haven't left a long-lasting bad impression on you.
2007-05-11 04:16:09
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answered by Luis 6
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I appreciate this well thought out post and I'll try to give some kind of response, even though its hard for me to really understand what the whole "point" of this story is.
I have always had the exact oppositte experience in gay communities, but all of them are very different. For example, I do not regard West Hollywood highly myself. The gay men there tend to be snobbish and club rats . . . thats just what I observe.
However have you ever been to P-Town in MA? Or Palm Springs CA? These are beautiful and accepting gay communities that welcome their straight male and female counterparts. Lovingly living together. Would I say the same of lets say . . . West Hollywood or . . . Castro area? No. They're just different types of communities.
Its almost like going to a small town in the Midwest. I certainly would avoid moving to a place like that. They would not accept me for being homosexual, and I would not feel comfortable there. The community would be "run by heterosexuals" and I'm sure my rights would not be in place as I enjoy them.
To be honest, I really think you are thinking about it too much. Gay men dont fit into one type of gategory, except that we all love the same sex. Thats really all there is too it. I think you will find there are several gay men who do not flaunt their sexuality and demand attention constantly from people. There are also gay men who live as your neighbors and live as an old married couple would.
All of these comments are just based on stereotypes and bigotry. It sounds like you have found a gay community that is not for you. I promise though, there are great areas that are filled with gay people. And anyway, if you move to any city area there are bound to be a LOT of gay people.
I hope this made some type of sense and helped you obtain a better view of homosexuals.
2007-05-10 12:41:15
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answered by subby33 3
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you act as in gay males are out there to just hook-up and move on. but if you didn't realize, you're just being very stereo-typical. you can say that gays are all out there go get some and go, but then again, you could say the same about heterosexual people. you ask why there are a lot more heterosexual couples married? duh. and just because some people are homophobic (referring to the islands part) and don't want their kids near homosexuals because of a high percentage in a small islands population... well... what does this have to do with this? and how much is 20% on a small island? you hear about how all of these people in other countries and such want to have their own place, their own countries for themselves, so why not gays? also, the part about the rats, very informational, and i agree with you to a degree, but that's also off-topic to your question, once again. lastly, how many times do you see gays hanging out with mostly/only girls (e.g.-fag hags)? if gay men acts like a female... then maybe they wants to be with other females. and not all gays act flamboyant, in fact, most don't as far as i hear (also, don't you ever see heterosexual males, and even sometimes females, immitating flamboyant attitudes as a joke?). and so, why would gay men try to take away the rights of women, or how even possibly could they be doing that? i don't think that i ever saw anything that could correlate to that theory at all. coming from someone who likes monogamous relationships... well, don't be such a stereotype. look at everything, not just one small piece. you've got intelligence... but i don't know where this argument even came from.
2007-05-10 12:40:10
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answered by hey h 4
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I don't know, but my gay nephew is not like that. If he did, I would have to beat him into submission! (grin)
He is a very kind, loving, polite 18 year old. He has a steady boyfriend. His best friend is a girl.
Maybe being an "activist" makes a person more antagonistic?? But that is quite separate from being gay. How about the lesbians? Would gay guys want to deny lesbians rights? It wouldn't make sense to me.
It sounds like you just ran into a bunch of immature guys. It isn't a factor of whether they were gay or straight.
2007-05-11 02:26:48
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answered by Tina Goody-Two-Shoes 4
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Sorry but I've never seen a gay male who behaves that way except in movies. It's probably the same as your stereotypical "black neighborhood" where you tend to attract the worst of that particular type of people instead of the average
2007-05-10 13:54:25
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answered by Rageling 4
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answered by ? 4
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So your point is that no matter what you see with your own two eyes, people will trash you for telling what you see. And if they don't like what you see, you're automatically labeled a bigot. Isn't that a form of censorship? What about free speech?
2007-05-10 12:17:06
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answered by BS,MS,Ph.D 2
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I have observed that gay men are disgusting. I still love them as I am commanded to.
I really have no clue to the scientific studies being done on this sort of traumatic epidemic running through our nation. I do believe homosexuality is a nurtured behavior and not an inherited or natural one.
2007-05-10 12:06:11
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answered by *Kimmie* 5
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I've heard of many communities property values rising because of gay people moving in. If you're scared your kids are going to catch the gay, move. I'm sure they could care less. Oh, let's hope black people don't move in next place you go to. Ooooooooooh!!!!!!
I have many friends who are gay males and they don't want to remove any of our rights, they just want the same rights we have!
2007-05-10 12:03:10
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answered by Anonymous
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