For Atheists......?

Question

If there are people who truly believe there is no God, then who are they to think they are superior to animals? They are just a species. Killing an animal is just as evil as killing a human being. Why would they care about other people? Survival of the fittest. Biologically, there is no reason why people should care for anyone else besides there own blood. Why would someone get married? Why should they? Men can reproduce so much more and carry on their genes if they are permiscuious. If you are an athiest, why on earth would you get married? Who or what tells you that you are better than a dog? An athiest biologist I had in college stated that we are the most "intellectual" beings, there for we are "superior". Well, what about the stupid people? I know some people who are less itelligent than dolfins. Are these people less superior then?

Answer 1

According to a recent Los Angeles Times article, Russia "has lost the equivalent of a city of 700,000 people every year since the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991." We're talking about the population of San Francisco or Baltimore—a grim reminder of how fruitless some worldviews can be.
If demographic trends hold steady, Russia's population, which stands at 142 million today, will drop to 52 million by 2080. At that point, according to Sergei Mironov, the chairman of the upper house of the Dumas, the Russian parliament, "there will no longer be a great Russia . . . it will be torn apart piece by piece, and finally cease to exist."
Mironov isn't alone in his fears. Russia's demographic crisis raises "serious questions about whether Russia will be able to hold on to its lands along the border with China or field an army, let alone a workforce to support the ill and the elderly."
Even more disturbing than the numbers are the reasons behind them: that is, "one of the world's fastest-growing AIDS epidemics . . . alcohol and drug abuse . . . [and] suicide" are among the leading causes of Russia's shrinking population.
What's more, last year there were 100,000 more abortions than births in Russia. And many women who want children can't have them: "[A]n estimated 10 million Russians of reproductive age are sterile because of botched abortions or poor health(and there's no laws against abortion in Russia.........the Russians have abortion on demand)."
As Scripps-Howard columnist Terry Mattingly puts it, "we have suicide, AIDS, substance abuse, rampant abortion, and a loss of hope in the future . . . in a nation that, in the past century, saw the rise of an atheistic regime that tried to stamp out the practice of faith . . . Do you think there might be a religion element in here somewhere?"
The real problem is a loss of faith. Life has always been tough in Russia, and Russians are famously fatalistic. But, as writers such as Dostoevsky and Solzhenitsyn told us, Christianity helped Russians to see their suffering as redemptive and not to lose hope.
Seventy-four years of official atheism robbed the Russian people of this source of hope. This, more than a ruined economy and environmental degradation, is what has put Russia on the road to extinction. It's a tragic reminder that ideas, and the worldviews and attitudes they engender, have very real consequences. Russia is the living historical example of what happens to a nation when secularism and atheism take control of a nation. Remember what Lenin said when he took power back in 1917. He said "religion is the opiate of the people". Therefore it must be stamped out and that's what they tried to do for 74 years. There's no telling how many christians and probably islamics were slaughtered during that time.
What does atheism tell us about life? It tells us that everything came from nothing and it came about just by random chance. 'Nothing' just 'blew up' or should we say 'started expanding' like a balloon(the big bang). It expanded for 15 billion years and is still expanding. Fifty years ago no one knew you or I were coming. All of a sudden we appear on this earth and 99.99999% of the world still doesn't know we are here and will never know. We live our 70 years on this earth in a life that is filled with problems, one after another. There's no God to help us in our problems. All there is out there is matter, molecules in motion and cold dark space. We're just 'cosmic orphans'. We are the accidental by-product of nature. A result of matter plus time plus chance. There is no real reason for our existence. With no hope of immortality our life leads only to the grave. Our life is but a spark in the infinite blackness, a spark that appears, flickers and dies forever. Compared to the infinite stretch of time, the span of mans life is but an infinitesimal moment, and yet this is all the life he will ever know. If life just ends at the grave then it makes no difference whether one has lived as a Hitler or as a Mother Theresa. Since one's destiny is ultimately unrelated to one's behavior, you might as well live as you please. You die, go into the grave and the worms eat you. That's it. You're gone. Mother Theresa isn't sitting up there on a cloud looking down at Hitler and saying "you should have been more like me".There's no more consciousness. Why live like Mother Theresa. She spent her whole life living in a garbage dump because that's where the people she ministered to lived. Hitler had fame, women, money, lived in mansions, had power and total authority, was loved in his own country. Then when he knew the allies were closing in and his glory days were coming to an end he took a gun and blew his brains out. He had nothing to lose. He lived to be almost 60 and he had everything. If there's no God there's no final accountability. You tell me who had a better life. One hundred years after we're dead, very few, if anyone, will know that we ever lived. Then the universe will go on for another 15 billion years and die a heat death. Mankind is a doomed race in a dying universe. Because the universe will eventually cease to exist, it makes no difference whether it ever did exist. Mankind is no more significant than a swarm of mosquitos or a barnyard of pigs, for their end is all the same. No wonder Oliver Wendell Holmes, one of America's most famous legal minds(and also an atheist), once said that he saw no difference between a man, an ant and a rock. The same blind cosmic process(evolution) that coughed them up in the first place will eventually swallow them again. Atheism says that man is just a lump of slime that somehow evolved into rationality. No wonder that even in this country, the suicide rate is is in the stratisphere and 25-30 million people are clinically on drugs for depression. That's the bi-product 40-45 years since we changed our culture from a christian culture to a secular culture back in the 60's during the sexual revolution. You could also throw in education scores that have fallen through the floor, divorce rates that's in the stratisphere, crime rate that's in another dimension,......drug, alcohol and sexually transmitted disease rates that are in outer space along with aids rates and you might also throw in 40 million dead babies(abortions).
It's also a cautionary tale, for what happened to Russia is, in many ways, just an exaggerated and accelerated version of the secularism and materialism overtaking much of Europe. There, as in Russia, secularism is proving to be literally sterile. And maybe it is a lesson we had better learn here as courts and cultural elite continue to marginalize the Christian faith in America.

Answer 2

"If there are people who truly believe there is no God, then who are they to think they are superior to animals?"

Some do, some don't. Atheism prescribes no set "code".

"They are just a species. Killing an animal is just as evil as killing a human being."

Hardly. Only vegetarians and PETA members share this kind of mindset. I have no problem with killing certain animals for food. Do you seriously think that just because someone doesn't believe in gods that they don't see the distinction between a cow and their neighbour?

"Why would they care about other people? Survival of the fittest. Biologically, there is no reason why people should care for anyone else besides there own blood."

Ever heard of empathy? Would you like it done to you? Doesn't it make you feel better to help people than just shun them? "Biologically" doesn't come into it, there is reason enough to help someone simply because they need it regardless of your beliefs.

"Why would someone get married? Why should they? Men can reproduce so much more and carry on their genes if they are permiscuious. If you are an athiest, why on earth would you get married?"

Again, some people ARE like this but most aren't. Regardless of beliefs, most people simply want to settle down with someone rather than sleep around all their life. Wouldn't you rather spend your life with a partner than spend ever weekend out trying to get layed?

"Who or what tells you that you are better than a dog?"

Are you insulting dogs now? I don't believe that I'm "better" than a dog in principal but I am better at certain things than a dog. For example, I doubt a dog could create web applications. We're not better, just different. Again, this is a personal opinion, you're just wrapping it in semantics.

"An athiest biologist I had in college stated that we are the most "intellectual" beings, there for we are "superior". Well, what about the stupid people? I know some people who are less itelligent than dolfins. Are these people less superior then?"

For the last time, this is a personal opinion. You can look at it as we are superior or we are just different. Again this isn't even unique to atheism (as nothing really is) ~ this mind set is shared by the majority of fundimental Christians, believing that their god made the universe for humans and that we can do what we want with it including kill everything that we consider inferior to us. Seriously, it makes me sick.

Overall you've presented a poor set of points that don't apply at all or at least only to atheism. You need to stand back and take a look at the bigger picture ~ without God, how would you react? Would you go out and rape, kill & pillage simply because there was no fear of Hell?

Answer 3

Biologically there is a couple of reasons for helping other members of your own species.
Genes don't work just through individuals. If your social group survives then there is a better chance for you to survive. Blood relatives as you put it. If your group dies you likely died along with them. Your gene packet just went extinct.
Reasons to worry about other species is not as direct but still follows the same lines.
Are we superior to other animals gets a negative answer.
How closely we are related seems to be a fuzzy point in ethics.
We kill other types of animals.
Yes that is right.
We kill other humans too. We even consider it good.
To kill other humans though we must deliberately class them as "other" and use names like "Enemy" or "Terrorist" to allow us not to think of them as fellow humans.
We don't normally eat our enemies anymore. Cannibalism has been far moire normal and widespread in human history than we like to admit though.
It is all about competition, and fit competitors function on what works. Simple minded models of competition often miss what factors actually matter.

Answer 4

> Well, what about the stupid people? I know some people who are less itelligent than dolfins. Are these people less superior then?

Are you trying to see how low people will rank your intelligence. You are succeeding, as it is very low.

Answer 5

enable me get this directly,you're asking questions of atheists and complaining as quickly as we answer? could it sluggish no longer be better spent complaining relating to the non secular no longer answering once you ask questions of them? faith is backwards. i think of eighteen is your lot extra or much less