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i'm working on a project for my english class, relating to debate. my issue is global warming, and my stance is that it's not what the media says it is. i'm very frustrated with search engines like google and, unfortunately yahoo, that only give me "global warming is going to cause the extinction of people" and stuff like that.

if anyone knows a good website where i can find some information, especially about discoveries being made as ice caps are receding, it would be greatly appreciated!!!

2007-05-09 10:59:14 · 6 answers · asked by viggoiii 1 in Environment

6 answers

Lots of sites in here


The theory of man-made global warming is false. Anyone who believes otherwise has not investigated the evidence or is purposely remaining ignorant to the legitimate opposition to global warming. I have given up an one and a half hours to watch “An Inconvenient Truth” so I ask you to do the same and watch the movie detailing the opposition.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4499562022478442170&q=great+global+warming+swindle.
And another video for those of you short on time: http://www.friendsofscience.org/index.php?ide=3
Some more general resources: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_warming_controversy
http://www.friendsofscience.org/index.php?ide=4
http://www.john-daly.com/

CO2 is not causing the globe to warm the opposite is true, the warming is increasing the atmospheric CO2. When the world heats it gradually increases the temperature of the oceans which serve as the largest CO2 sink. As the oceans heat up they release CO2 which is stored in them. The information comes from the same data Al Gore uses, the temperature always goes up before the concentration of CO2 goes up.
http://www.lavoisier.com.au/papers/articles/ninelieslaunch.pdf#search=%22vostok%20figure%20125%22

CO2 makes up only .03% of our atmosphere. Water vapor, another greenhouse gas, makes up 1-4% of our atmosphere, this gas is acknowledged to be the main greenhouse gas. All human activities combined contribute only 6 Gigatons of CO2 to the atmosphere each year. Animals, through respiration, decomposition, etc contribute 150 Gigatons of CO2 to the atmosphere. So humans contribute only a small amount of CO2 to the atmosphere which is already in very small concentrations in the atmosphere.
http://oco.jpl.nasa.gov/science.html This is where my data came from, it is an interesting site, it displays the same graphics as Al Gore in his movie but it tells how low the human contribution is. So Al Gore is using the same data but coming to a different conclusion, who do you want to believe a politician with no scientific training or the NASA CO2 laboratory, a group of scientists who spend their entire careers studying CO2.

We know the greenhouse effect is real it is a necessary effect to keep our planet at a habitable temperature. However if our current warming is due to greenhouse gasses it would cause warming in the troposphere , but the troposphere is actually getting cooler.
http://wwwghcc.msfc.nasa.gov/temperature/. That points to other explanations to our current warming.

So what is causing our current warming, it is the sun.
http://web.dmi.dk/solar-terrestrial/space_weather/
http://www.aip.org/enews/physnews/2003/split/642-2.html
http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/060926_solar_activity.html
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2004/08/040803093903.htm
http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2003/17jan_solcon.htm
http://www.globalwarming.org/article.php?uid=900
The fact that only the earth’s surface is warming points to direct heating from the sun rather than heating due to greenhouse gasses. Also other planets in our solar system are warming pointing to a common cause of warming, that common cause being the sun.
http://www.livescience.com/environment/070312_solarsys_warming.html
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2007/02/070228-mars-warming.html
http://www.nasa.gov/vision/universe/solarsystem/mgs-092005.html
http://www.nasa.gov/vision/universe/solarsystem/mgs-092005-images.html

The global warming crowd says our glaciers are melting and animals will suffer this is another false claim.
http://www.co2science.org/scripts/CO2ScienceB2C/articles/V8/N46/EDIT.jsp
http://www.nationalcenter.org/NPA235.html
http://www.worldclimatereport.com/

The global warming crowd also insists our seas are rising due to global warming, however this is not entirely correct. Seas in certain areas are rising, there is no global sea rise. The seas have been rising ever since the last ice age: http://globalwarmingart.com/wiki/Image:Holocene_Sea_Level_png
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Post-Glacial_Sea_Level.png
These two sources show that sea level increase now has actually leveled off from a very steep rise for the past 20 thousand years. For proof of this look here:
http://www.climateark.org/articles/1999/markhotd.htm
A mark left by Sir James Clark Ross, an Antarctic explorer, in 1841 is still visible. Not only that but the mark was placed in 1841 to show how high the sea was, not only is the mark visible it is 30cm above current sea levels. Now it is possible that the mark was placed at high tide and the picture taken at low, but even then the mark would still be above current sea levels. The seas have risen dramatically over the past thousand years not due in any part to us. If you want proof of that take a look at one of the dozens of ancient underwater cities that spot the globe. When these cities were built they were on land now they are deep underwater: http://www.abc.net.au/foreign/content/2004/s1107203.htm
This shows a dramatic increase in sea level during human time but long before the world became industrialized.

The global warming crowd also claims a scientific consensus on the issue, this is wrong in two ways. One, there is no consensus, this is a false claim to make you believe in global warming by suppressing the opposition. http://www.oism.org/pproject/s33p36.htm
Second, even if there was a consensus it would mean nothing, science is not politics, you don’t vote on theories to determine their legitimacy.
Here’s 21 pages of websites that disagree with global warming.
http://www.climatechangedebate.org/documents/CCD_read.pdf
The thought that the only scientists who disagree with global warming are paid by oil companies is simply a stupid statement with no reality. This is the most illogical argument by people in support of global warming. Aside from being completely false it begs another question: Who pays global warming supporters? The answer is big environmental agencies that make millions off of global warming each year by teaching, publishing books, and selling environmentally clean products.

The IPCC is the main supporter of global warming, their statements are defended blindly by people who don’t want to admit that global warming is not real. People will claim that they took into account natural sources of CO2, they didn’t. Take a look for yourself:
http://www.ipcc.ch/activity/srccs/index.htm. That is the latest IPCC report, read the entire report, do a search of the documents, there is absolutely no mention of natural sources of CO2. The natural sources have been completely ignored. Also people will claim that the IPCC took the sun into account in their report, this is not entirely correct, while the sun is mentioned the report it’s effects have not been accurately represented.
http://www.john-daly.com/forcing/moderr.htm. The IPCC did not take into account the Svensmark factor. This would greatly reduce the effect of solar radiation on the earth. Look back up to the solar resources to see the effect of the sun correctly represented.
Also allegations have been by IPCC scientists who disagreed with the IPCC statements. They say that their research was censored or taken out of the IPCC report. This is not the first time the IPCC has lied, they forged the famous “hockey stick” graph, which later resulted in a reissuing of the IPCC report.
Here’s another source that disagrees with the IPCC: http://rpc.senate.gov/_files/Sept1004GlobalWarmingPG.pdf
And another: http://www.sepp.org/Archive/NewSEPP/ipccreview.htm
And another: http://www.john-daly.com/guests/un_ipcc.htm

Quotes form politicians, CEO’s, and others are not proof of global warming, they issue these statements to get votes and customers. Scientists are able to get published and get time on the media by supporting global warming. The IPCC continually lies and misrepresents data so they keep their jobs.

In regards to the precautionary principle that says we can only help if we switch over to alternative energy, this idea is not correct. While this may seem legitimate it only helps the first world, third world countries can not afford to switch to the more expensive energy options. Also the US currently spends 4 billion dollars a year on global warming research which could be better spent on research for disease or to fight poverty. For an excellent example of how the precautionary principle is harmful you do not need to look further than DDT. This pesticide was cheap and incredibly effective but it was banned because of it harmful effects on egg shells. Now thousands of people die every year in third world countries because of malaria, a disease that could be easily controlled with DDT.

I hope anyone who believes in global warming they will take a look at the resources I provided. These resources should convince you that global warming is not man-made, it is caused by cycles in the earths climate. If you are not convinced I hope you at least take a new look at global warming as an unproven idea. Remember that global warming is big business for anyone who aligns themselves with it.

I could not go this entire post without mentioning global cooling.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_cooling
http://www.michaelkubacki.com/cooling.htm
In the 1970’s it was claimed that there was a consensus on the fact that the world was headed into an ice age. We have seen once before how damaging a false claim about our climate change can be to our world. Most of the global warming crowd does not want you to know about this scare because it is so similar to the scare today. Government panels were formed and claimed the world was headed to an ice age, evidence poured in supporting the claim, a consensus was claimed, then the whole issue just faded away. That is what will happen with the false scare of global warming.

2007-05-09 11:15:40 · answer #1 · answered by Darwin 4 · 1 2

The earth is continuously warming and cooling, that's been for billions upon billions of years. It merely has never performed it this rapid or this appreciably in the previous. the place my mom and dad stay, in Pennsylvania, ten years in the past that they had a snowfall in November that coated their mailbox. Now they are fortunate to get any snow in the previous the recent 3 hundred and sixty 5 days, and the chilly lasts into the spring months. pollutants quickens the international climate exchange, it would not reason it, and the hollow in the ozone layer is definitely brought about by ability of your refrigerants like Freon, etc. and additionally from the methane from cows burping and farting.

2016-10-15 05:36:11 · answer #2 · answered by ? 4 · 0 0

Since I don't much like the idea of people debating on the side of an issue that is obviously false and misinformed, I am afraid I'll have to just give a couple sites showing that anthropogenic global warming theory is *true*. I won't bother giving you very many, as one dude up above me has given you so much anti-science propaganda (which he copied and pasted from another Blog, but whatever) you likely won't even notice my post, but here goes anyway.

An excellent site which refutes most of the arguments given by the deniers is RealClimate.org, a Blog run by fifteen highly qualified climate scientists. Even if reading through the site doesn't make you realize that anthropogenic climate change is real, it will at least give you some idea of the arguments against the theory to avoid, as they have been refuted.

Another good source of information is illconsidered.blogspot.com, a site run by an interested layman which has short refutations for virtually every single contrarian argument ever devised on the theory.

And of course, last but not least, the best source of information regarding global climate change out there is the IPCC report, which can be found here:

http://ipcc-wg1.ucar.edu/wg1/wg1-report.html

If you're going to try and refute the theory it is absolutely essential that you read and comprehend every single thing in the report, since it has virtually every scrap of information available on climate change in it.

And finally, good luck on trying to defeat the entire scientific community on this one, you'll need it. I'm only sorry I didn't get a chance to post before all the contrarians came in and started spewing junk science and propaganda all over the place.

P.S. And before I forget, you simply mustn't use any of the arguments found in The Great Global Warming Swindle in your debate. The whole thing has been discredited and refuted by scientists so many times now people should be embarrassed for even mentioning it. In fact, one of the scientists involved in the film (Carl Wunsch) is now demanding that he be removed from the show entirely, saying that he was mislead and deceived into thinking the show would be a scientific, unbiased look at the theory. Further saying that had he been informed as to the true nature and content of the film, would never have agreed to appear in it at all, calling a piece of 'outright propaganda'.

You can read Mr. Wunsch's letter to Channel 4 here:

http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2007/03/swindled-carl-wunsch-responds/

and a short article debunking the whole film here:

http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2007/03/swindled/

2007-05-09 11:34:44 · answer #3 · answered by SomeGuy 6 · 1 2

Yes Viggoiii, there is a video pointed out by "Gene", another question answerer, at the following address:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4499562022478442170&hl=en

It is a rebuttal to Al Gore's "An Inconvenient Truth".
I would suggest that you watch both before coming to any conclusions and even then, don't accept either as gospel, without doing more study of other sources.

P.S. Pass this video on to others.

2007-05-10 07:42:46 · answer #4 · answered by itsmyitch 4 · 1 0

I don't think that anybody really believes global warming doesn't exist-- but a number of people (including myself) believe that it is not man-made. Check out wikipedia and the guy above me's documentary.

2007-05-16 23:28:27 · answer #5 · answered by David W 4 · 0 0

Here you go

http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/sun_output_030320.html
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2007/02/070228-mars-warming.html
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4499562022478442170&hl=en

2007-05-09 11:15:52 · answer #6 · answered by Gene 7 · 1 2

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