"Then I heard the LORD say to the other men, "Follow him through the city and kill everyone whose forehead is not marked. Show no mercy; have no pity! Kill them all – old and young, girls and women and little children. But do not touch anyone with the mark. Begin your task right here at the Temple." So they began by killing the seventy leaders. "Defile the Temple!" the LORD commanded. "Fill its courtyards with the bodies of those you kill! Go!" So they went throughout the city and did as they were told." (Ezekiel 9:5-7)
Anyone still think the Lord loves everyone? He is ordering merciless killing of children.......
I think this is pretty clear cut before anyone says it is taken out of context or has been misinterpretted
And if you think it is wrong then can you be sure that the rest of the Bible is right?
2007-05-09 03:11:40 · 15 answers · asked by zeppelin_roses 4 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
schneb - thats no excuse for murder
2007-05-09 03:21:39 · update #1
servent - oh so He will murder children simply because they don't believe in Him? well thats nice isnt it....
2007-05-09 03:23:03 · update #2
Vicsikix - why would you want to trust something that is willing to order the merciless murder of children?
2007-05-09 03:26:13 · update #3
I'VE JUST THOUGHT OF SOMETHING - isn't murder a sin....10 commandment and all that? So why is God ordering people to murder people? will the murderers be punished with Hell? or is it ok because they are doing God's dirty work?
2007-05-09 03:29:40 · update #4
Kymr - if i have a child can i do what i please to it? of course not. just because He created the world doesnt make it just to go around killing people
2007-05-09 03:31:02 · update #5
Theophilis - So God didn't tell people to murder the evil people? he told them to murder the people who do not weep about the evil? So God would want to murder amoral people even though they have not sinned? So God would want to murder babies who have no idea of the evil taking place around them?
2007-05-09 03:33:43 · update #6
Joolz - ooooh right! I get it now. yes i suppose it is perfectly acceptable to murder children because they don't believe in God......
2007-05-09 03:35:36 · update #7
Debbie22 - So do you think that I should follow God so that he doesn't have me murdered? not because i want to love him, but because i should fear He will murder me?
2007-05-09 03:36:51 · update #8
Petit Chou - how can that possibly be out of context?! it CLEARLY says that the LORD wants people (including) children to be murdered.......i don't see how 'Kill them all' can mean anything other than...erm....'kill them all'
2007-05-09 03:40:10 · update #9
CLAUDENE - why? will He have me murdered too for not accepting murder? I'm simply following HIS teachings.....murder is wrong
2007-05-09 03:42:34 · update #10
God will mark you for taking His Word out of context. The verse before says, “Go through the midst of the city, through the midst of Jerusalem, and put a mark on the foreheads of the men who sigh and cry over all the abominations that are done within it.”
First learn what an abomination is then come back. You have been winnowed and found wanting.
http://www.schneblin.com/studies/pdfs/winnowing_wheat_chaff.pdf
2007-05-09 03:20:11 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 5⤊ 4⤋
It is great that you can quote word for word from verse 5 through 7, but nothing from verse 1 through 4.
Essentially what has happened here is the Lord called the elders of the city together, and one had a stamp and ink pad in his hand. He was told to go throughout the city and place a stamp on the forehead of everyone who weeps over the evil of the city. Then the other elders are told to go throughout the city and slay those who do not have the stamp on their forehead.
Sounds like the Lord provided a method of sorting out the good from the evil and then had the evil ones slain. That is not unlike the incident involving the flood. God used the flood to destroy all those whose thoughts were evil continuously.
grace2u
2007-05-09 10:27:51 · answer #2 · answered by Theophilus 6 · 3⤊ 1⤋
Don't you know that the love of God means obeying his commandments?
All false religion, all unbelievers in God and Christ will be destroyed during Armageddon.
The point about God's love that you don't seem to get is this:
That the preaching about the Good News worldwide over these many decades is God's and Christ's standing at your door crying loudly "Repent so as not to die" If you do not repent then you are the one rejecting the chance to remain alive. All those who reject God and Christ will suffer and that includes their children.
Ezekiel 18:23 Have I any pleasure at all in the death of the wicked? saith the Lord Jehovah; is it not in his turning from his way, that he may live? (Darby)
2 Thessalonians 1:7-9 . . .of the Lord Jesus from heaven with his powerful angels 8 in a flaming fire, as he brings vengeance upon those who do not know God and those who do not obey the good news about our Lord Jesus. 9 These very ones will undergo the judicial punishment of everlasting destruction from before the Lord and from the glory of his strength,. (NW)
Matt 24:14, 14And these glad tidings of the kingdom shall be preached in the whole habitable earth, for a witness to all the nations, and then shall come the end. (Darby)
2007-05-09 11:13:24 · answer #3 · answered by Fuzzy 7 · 0⤊ 1⤋
What happened in Noah's day? In Lots day? In Jericho? In Nineveh? In Assyria? In Babylon?
All these places were to be destroyed and the children along with their parents..not a person was to be left alive. Why?
Because they had all turned to worshiping false gods.
Only Nineveh was saved. Why? Because they had repented and turned back to worshiping Jehovah God.
We today can avoid destruction if we turn to the ONLY TRUE GOD JEHOVAH>
All our lives depend on that decision. Love spreads and so can love for the Almighty.
We don't have much time left.
I know you have heard this all your life...so did the Israelites for 400 years...then they were released from Egypt in the great Exodus.
We today are in the judgment period...please make the wise choice and turn to Jehovah.
2007-05-09 10:30:28 · answer #4 · answered by debbie2243 7 · 3⤊ 1⤋
I am afraid the error consists on the wrong belief that christians HAVE to believe in the old testament.
This is an error that happens once and again in these pages.
The episode you talk about refers to the search of identity a particular human group had during the time they spent abroad (it is not clear if they were slaves or not), and it does have very strong nationalistic connotations (God is with us, not with them; God attacks them, not us).
This has NOTHING to do with what Christians believe and, in fact, is not amongst our "official" beliefs.
2007-05-09 14:04:33 · answer #5 · answered by felipelotas1 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
You took the bible verse out of context! If you read the chapters before & after it related to how God's people had turned their backs to God and not follow his ways. Ezekiel was predicting what God had planned if the people of Isreal carried on down the path that they were following. When the people of that day heard Ezekiel's message, they changed their path & turned to God, so what was predicted did not happen. Anyway God had a far greater Plan for the future, that being Jesus who walk amungst us, and died for our sins so we could be saved, and in Gods own time (not ours to predict) Jesus will return! I hope that you are ready!
2007-05-09 10:29:52 · answer #6 · answered by Joolz of Salopia 5 · 1⤊ 1⤋
Ezekiel. That's the bloke that some reckon was carried off in a UFO, isn't it?
Actually, the Old Testament God was quite a vengeful one and wasn't averse to doing a little bit of punishing by death here and there (Sodom & Gomorrah spring to mind).
2007-05-09 10:28:27 · answer #7 · answered by john g 5 · 1⤊ 0⤋
I think 'Shneb' meant 'out of context' is the only excuse I've been taught! I can't reason on my own!'
I believe those who were raised there had their own opinions of what 'abominable' was. For instance, killing children who have not even had a chance to form opinions of their own.
Christians are the ones who always seem to be the ones 'taking things out of context' to support their age old (and wrong) theory
2007-05-09 10:27:30 · answer #8 · answered by strpenta 7 · 1⤊ 1⤋
Even after seeing why God might have required the death of the Canaanites who chose to resist, we may not like what He did. That's understandable. God isn't looking for our fullhearted approval. He knows we can't see the whole of life as He does.
Although God does not demand our approval, He does call for our trust. Any honest reader of the Bible finds overwhelming evidence of His trustworthiness. He keeps His promises. He makes Himself real to those who seek Him. He has given us reason to believe that in the end He will right the wrongs of the ages and be fair to all--even with His enemies. His incomprehensible grace and perfect justice will prevail.
2007-05-09 10:23:25 · answer #9 · answered by Red neck 7 · 2⤊ 1⤋
No, you have taken it out of context. Read the whole book, and it makes more sense. These people were idolaters and were worshiping other God's and were very violent and disobeying God. He chose to show his sovereignty this way. Aren't we lucky he doesn't wipe us out this way, lots of people would be in trouble wouldn't they. He created it all, it's his kingdom and he can choose to do with it what he wants. If you created it you could do what you wanted. He gave the people the chance to follow him and he mocked them and so he punished them. It should be a lesson for all living after them!!!
2007-05-09 10:27:09 · answer #10 · answered by Kymr 3 · 1⤊ 2⤋
It is a historical account of an actual event given creditability of thier actions by atributing the order as given by God,It was done to justify the killings,however you have to consider just how much of the bible is given over to this kind of deietic hysterior.
Just how much (if any) of the bible is the word of a God and not just the ramblings of a paid scribe of the Roman emporer Augustus ??
2007-05-09 10:22:49 · answer #11 · answered by McCanns are guilty 7 · 0⤊ 2⤋