Mainly for the Atheists to answer, but any others, feel free to share opinions.?

Question

Since Atheists use science, common sense and logic to disprove that a God created Earth and can perform miracles, use those three to explain how you believe the Earth was formed. (All the miracles, I can clearly see, would be made up or a coinsidence, so there's no need for an explanation.) I'm not trying to say everyone else's religions are made up and stupid, or offend anyone. I'm only looking for a reasonable explaination for Earth's existance and everything on it... Other than a magical man in Heaven creating them who's presence there is equally miraculous as the things he instantly creates. Once again, thank you.

I know not all Atheists don't believe in Gods because of scientifical proof. But I can guarentee that if I were to say in a debate over this, "God created the heavens and the Earth then said 'let there be light' and there was light" (and so on with the rest..) that they would result to science to prove me wrong saying that there's no magic guy in the sky who can who can do this. I'm sounding stupider than ever, but this is difficult for all to explain. Both, the religious view and the scientific view on the creation of Earth sound ridiculous. Explain where all this dust and stuff came from? How is all this space and dirt just there? Sometimes the magical man in heaven sounds more logical than all these scientifical explainations. Once you get so far back to the begining, you get stuck, just like you do with the religious view. You just get stuck with an unexplainable question much sooner on the religion part. That's what this question is, unexplainable. It all appears to be made up.

abetterfate: Thanks, I see what you mean, I'm only trying to decide whether all my efforts in studying religion and trying to find a true one is worth it, or if science is accurate; Which I've concluded that neither are accurate with what is known at the moment.
and nola_cajun: Disprove means to prove wrong..
A lot of you have good scientific answers that I'm glad you took the time to type up and post. I guess I really just want to know how pure nothing became all this junk in the galaxy which, after all this crazy astronomical stuff, became the planet Earth with millions of different life forms. No one will really know. Never mind

Answer 1

There are many explanation how the universe was created. The truth maybe we could never know. Has it occurred to you that life in this universe and the creation of the universe itself maybe so far apart in time that it is impossible for the living to get to the how it was created?

I would give you another example of how this universe is sustained but it would be over most of the humans on this planet and yet it is so simple as looking deep within yourself.

Answer 2

Good question, no, an excellent question, and I wish that I, or anybody else for that matter, could give you a simple answer. The problem is that while common sense and logic are fairly manageable tools, 'science' is a miasma, a phantom, every time we think that we have it 'tagged', it does a 'shapeshifter' routine on us.

I believe that there is a science beyond all of our current models that governs all the processes that you question. I also believe that many of us have a fairly good idea of how it works, the problem is that it is so stunningly simple and obvious that no-one wants to believe it. That's quite apart from the undeniable fact that it flies in the face of virtually all of our thus-far religious and 'scientific' belief systems.

The missing factor does appear at the beginning of most 'Creation Myths', but we consistently fail to interpret it correctly.

Einstein ( and many others ) taught us that matter = energy = matter, the famous, but equally misunderstood E = MC2. But what we haven't, apparently worked out is what causes the shift between the two states of energy, the catalyst that makes 'matter' matter.

Here's the crazy bit, just as 'God' caused 'stuff' to materialise in the Genesis account, we, as the individuated representations of the original 'Creator Singularity', are doing this all of the 'time', by the power of our projected thoughts.

We condense energy into matter by imagining it into manifestation, the catalyst is human thought. We do this individually, in groups and collectively, as the 'One', the more of us doing the imagining the more powerful the manifestation.

Take one small, rather funny, example. Dinosaurs.

Until about 150 years ago Dinosaurs were unknown as former inhabitants of our planet. Then as archeology started to take shape as a human activity people started realising that these gigantic bones that were found from time to time were not from some runaway elephant of Hannibal the Carthaginian, but some other equally huge species.

Bit by bit, all around the globe different pieces of evidence started to take shape as a whole world of diverse species of thousands of dinosaurs, from tiny, lizard-like creatures to the gargantuan Diplodocus.

How can this be ?

Because we are making it all up as we go along. Time is a great illusion, it is more like an onion, expanding out, layer by layer, from the core to the outer skin, which is roughly where we sit, at any given moment, busily thinking up our next 'trick'.

Magical man, indeed. :-)

Oh, and by the way, I am neither Atheist nor Religionist, but I have great faith in the creative process.

Answer 3

We don't know about the universes very beginning. No one does. From the tiniest slice of a second from t=0, then we can explain most of how the universe works with science. It's only at t=0 that things break down.

You may use this fact to say "Well science cannot explain everything", but it can explain an awful lot, and we are learning more every day. Besides, you cannot explain who created God, or even why he exists; you just give him the quality of being timeless and revoke the question.

The universe went from being a tight ball of energy and subatomic particles, expanding very quickly into seas of hydrogen, helium and a little lithium, which over billions of years coalesced to make stars, which fused hydrogen to helium, and as the star died fused materials into all the naturally occuring elements we know, and ended with a supernova and the formation of a large nebula. Over billions of years, tiny fragements of dust and rock formed planets which began to orbit a burning ball of hydrogen. Through chemical and tectonic action basic chemicals were formed, and with the action of heat and possibly eletrical storms, these formed organic chemicals which became self replicating viruses, which developed into cells. A few billion years later, a man is typing this on YA...
You get the idea.

Answer 4

Well I can tell you how science say Earth was probably made (although not 100% certain of course).

The Hypothesis goes:

Big Bang threw energy and matter and as this matter exploded it was in high energy state and large amounts of fuel (hydrogen) burned creating stars that sucked in large amounts of materials

"Gravity fights" threw cosmic "dust" everywhere and our own star Sol had a cloud of dust around it. Now thru gravity the dust clouds became over 100 protoplanets which then crashed into each other, broke apart, until we were left with our current number which were still hot from all the collisions.

The planets cooled and all the extra debris from the collisions started to get pulled to planets in form of comets which brought water, dirt, and organic materials...tons of comets hit and helped provide the water rich planet we live on today.

From there the rest is history.

Answer 5

It is human constraints defining the eternal from a perspective of a mortal lifespan that sets this paradigm as an either or option. Matter and energy are the same just as metal can move from a solid to a liquid into a gas and remain the same, merely entertaining a different mode of medium. It is our concept of what is time, merely what we observe as rotation, coupled with our ability to rationalize existent for the benefit of the Universe that sets these arguments into motion. We are experiencing matter and energy manifesting into another form following a dimensional cycle that defies our ability to comprehend the passage of movement as this Universe expands ever outward into the nothing, each particle of matter spreading ever further away from connecting, the lonely coming upon us once again in time spans that we can not by our finite life measure in what we call time. It always was, it always will be, it changes it form but the content is indestructible.

Answer 6

We don't use science to "disprove God," since you can't prove nonexistence.

We look to science because while it doesn't always have all the answers, it admits it doesn't, and keeps looking and experimenting until it finds the answers. Science has a number of theories about how the earth was formed. Some day they may find the single best answer, but we can also be assured they'll never stop looking.

Religion stops at "God did it. End of story." Most of us consider that attitude to be the path to profound ignorance.

Answer 7

How the earth was formed?

something this fragile and in balance didn't come overnight

to say something this complicated with billions of microcosms and ecosystems could not possibly have been done by one being

it may be easier to answer how mankind is currently destroying the earth and hoping to hasten a second coming or apocalypse and justifying polution, SUV's, mega churches, waste, ignoring your neighbor and ignoring the simple things and facts in life

I would focus first on looking inwards to you and your own universe before trying to understand something no one can know or agree upon.

love and know thyself first and the rest becomes commentary

Answer 8

You should have learned most of this in school: Big bang, swirling gases coalescing into stars, planets and galaxies; on the planets various quantities of elements are present and on one at least, most likely more as there are a LOT of galaxies with a LOT of stars out there, the conditions are right for life to form. Life is a pretty tenacious thing and it seeks to to survive and replicate. It changes to have a better chance at survival and poof several million years later, here we are.... Given that this is consistent with the facts around us (except for any errors that I might have made) and the story of creation isn't, I accept it as a reasonable explanation.

Answer 9

Ok This is a great question!
I am a Christian and I will explain some of my own thoughts on how the world was created:

When God said "Let there be light", and all things started too appear, It would be kind of like, well, a BIG BANG. A bunch of little atoms and bacteria coming together, We just believe something was controlling it.

Lets look at Adam and Eve. It's very clear that God made the Animals before him, however, why is it impossible too think that when he created them, the science or "DNA" he used to create them, was similar to a previous animal he made, because the animal walked on two legs, and that is what God wanted.

Lets Look at Jesus, This man did things, That no man could have ever done, unless he were a man who could use most of his brain.
Scientist explain that if we had the ability to use our full brains, we could levitate and move objects with our eyes, so if Jesus were the Son Of God, well then how would God allow him too do these "Miracle" Things??? Well he would give him the all the functions of his brain.

I could go on and on...using science to explain the bible, because well...There is one question, that I have the science has never been able to explain.

That is "If at the beginning of time, There was NO action then how did a reaction occur?"

Answer 10

It would take too long to explain the whole of cosmology, geology, archeology, and evolution in a single response.

However, I can recommend a couple good books on the subject. If you're interested in cosmology, check out some of the writings of Stephen Hawking. Though, cosmology does reach deep into speculation, it does have firm roots in astronomy. If you're interested in evolution, check out various books by Richard Dawkins. He, especially, targets his books to people who don't know a lot about evolution and wonder how such an unintuitive result could happen.