existence of god can be proved without faith?

Question

please no faith answers!

i insist... without faith, can be possible that science can find god?

Answer 1

Nobody can prove any gods, much less a specific god, exist; many people will tell you their god exists but no others, but will never be able to prove it, even if they think so. Some will threaten you with eternal pain or promise eternal joy to get you to believe in their god; these are all stories, created for people who were scared long before we understood the universe. Now we have no more reason for these superstitions.

How terrible the bible in particular is:
http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/
http://www.evilbible.com/

What's the origin of the Jesus stories?
http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_jcpa5.htm
http://www.near-death.com/experiences/origen048.html

How silly and horrible religion in general is:
http://godisimaginary.com/
http://whywontgodhealamputees.com/

The alternative:
http://www.religioustolerance.org/
http://www.infidels.org/
http://www.positiveatheism.org/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unitarian_Universalism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secular_humanism

Answer 2

I'm going to have to go ahead and coin a term here, but God is a "Memetic being."

The Christian god (and any other god) exists as an idea. This is true and important whether or not He exists in any tangible form.

A flippant atheist might suggest, "Yeah and so did the imaginary friend you had when you were a kid, that doesn't mean anything." The difference is that when you stopped having the imaginary friend, he went away. God is slightly, but significantly, different.

The idea of god is very much alive, and has been for thousands of years. I am being quite serious when I say "alive" in that context. The idea of god reproduces (through the communication of individuals) and evolves (schisms, new religions, off-shoot religions, an individuals learning) and even communicates (when a believer has an idea they would not have had if that person did not have the idea of god in his head.)

At the very least, God is alive in human consciousness. Considering many of us strive ito acheive a higher level of consciousness, perhaps the the idea of god really IS a higher being.

Considering that God exists in our consciousness, it should come as no surprise that God is actually quite powerful, if only as an idea.

This is why atheists cannot and must not expect much by engaging theists on logic and science alone. The idea of God is quite literally on a higher plane for tha vast majority of the population.

Instead atheists must understand and respect the power of the idea of God (as well as religion) and understand how things got to be this way.

Anyone who really wants to advocate atheism, must understand that quite a few memes are going to have to be replaced, and that it is the memetic level that we must concentrate on.

Answer 3

Here it goes, now bear with me.
Inside the cell of every living organism on the planet there are (among others) two very important kinds of molecules: proteins and DNA strands. Each of these molecules are huge, the contain hundreds, if not thousands of elements in a specific order. If the order of any one of these were to change, the molecule could not preform it's function.
Now, the function of the proteins are to do everything in the cell, from converting matter to energy (eating) to regulating the levels of different substances in the cells, (different salts and such). The purpose of the DNA strands is to manufacture these proteins from elements in the cell.
But here's the catch. The proteins make the DNA. The DNA tells the proteins how to make new proteins, DNA and other stuff, and the proteins make these molecules.
So, you need DNA to make proteins, and you need proteins to make DNA.
Like I mentioned before, these molecules are composed of many different elements, in a specific order. If anything changes, you get nothing.
So, both of these molecules need to come into existence simultaneously, and purely by chance! Plus, it takes many proteins to do the tasks mentioned above. So we're talking about millions, even billions of molecular connections, all happening EXACTLY the right way, at EXACTLY the right time.
What're the chances of that happening by accident?
Clearly someone is pulling the strings and making sure everything works the way it should.
I hope that that's clear and understandable.

Answer 4

one can do this using the following premise: that we have fewer senses, and none that can detect such a being's presence, so in order to prove that our senses are inadequate, one must take a look at the eyeball of various creatures upon the earth, and test the hearing of creatures, and try to define what they see and hear. We know through scientific experiment that dogs can hear things that we do not. We know that birds and insects see colors that we do not, and this line of reasoning can help us substantiate the claim that our senses are inadequate, and in admitting this lack, we open the door to the possibility of such a being's existence.

However, that being said, this only proves that insects, birds and dogs are better at seeing and hearing than humans are.

So, one day, some Russian scientist decided that with Kirlian photography, he could take images of something that normally, humans cannot see. What he claimed were pictures of an aura surrounding every living thing.

Well, an electrical field of some sort generated...

Answer 5

If there's something you, or even science, does not yet understand, it does not follow that your god, or any other god, explains it.

Saying that Earth is just the right distance from its star says nothing. If it weren't, it and we would not exist.

Saying that everything had to have a cause - except your god, of course - doesn't make it so.

Gods cannot be proven because there is not one shred of evidence. In fact, throughout history, things that were said to have been caused by gods have been shown to have very natural explanations.

Answer 6

Look in the mirror. If there is no God, then there is just an animal, and it doesn't matter what you think any way.
It just depends on what you think god is. When you were a kid, you may have thought of God as some old dude in a robe frowning all the time and throwing thunderbolts. That is of course rediculous. God is Consciousness, plain and simple. The fact that you are aware is all the proof you should need.

Answer 7

No. God's realm is the metaphysical (read that as imaginary). Science's realm is the physical.
Even if you could prove that a "miracle" was actually a miracle, you couldn't infer much about the god that made the miracle happen. Science would look for a physical explanation for a "miracle" anyway.

Answer 8

If u have no faith in god then find out in what areas u keep the faith. Once u r within it, u will find the answer.

Answer 9

Strong Anthropic Principle.

Answer 10

Actually the creation is the best proof for existence of God.

I have been amazed at the way how the tree has some roots which make them attached to the ground, how our heart-beat is automatic and our breathing is connected to it, we hear of oxygen and carbondioxide after we grow up, how even the intelligent doctors,scientists cannot say where they came from and go after they die. So many simple things in life really prooves the existence of God.

Please read Genesis 1 to know creation.
http://bible.crosswalk.com/OnlineStudyBible/bible.cgi?new=1&word=genesis+1§ion=0&version=niv&language=en

I have just known that God is there for sure and try to put them in this website for others to enjoy the priviledge I have :)

http://www.protectinghands.com/ladder_to_heaven.htm