Let's try this again: Was the story of Noah really changed by Jews, or was it changed by Mohammad?

Question

The last time I asked this, very few people decided to answer the question with a direct answer. No surpirse

The Biblical account of Noah says that God warned Noah about His plans to flood the Earth, because Noah was a good man, and He wanted Noah to be saved from God's wrath.

The Qur'anic account of Noah says that God flooded the Earth because Noah asked Him to kill all the non-believers:

"[71.26] And Nuh said: My Lord! leave not upon the land any dweller from among the unbelievers!"

This is one of the many differences between Biblical and Qur'anic accounts. Muslims insist it is because Jews changed the Bible. Anything in the Qur'an which does not agree with the Bible is automatically classified as corruption at the hands of evil liars who change God's word.

EVEN IF YOU DO NOT BELIEVE THE STORY OF NOAH, *which version* do you believe is authentic...the merciful God who spares law abiding people, or the God who kills people at the request of law abiding people?
Clear?

Answer 1

Muhammad changed it. How will a good man pray for the killing of people? Muhammad is a false prophet.
The Bible story is authentic.
By the way, God is not Allah.

You see that's why I say the Quran is fake. See what Noor says;that his Noah' son died in the flood.

Answer 2

The word of God according to Muslims is corrupt. Not only Jews but also Christians supposedly have an authority over Allah to make him a liar. The Qur'an does not agree with this Muslim view as it claims the Torah and Gospel to be the word of Allah and Allah's word can not be changed. Allah never said he would allow man to make a liar out of him what kind of God would he be if he could not keep his word? The dilemma is that the Qu'ran is not in agreement with the word of God nor the prophets of God. So what can a Muslim do but say previous scripture is corrupt? This leaves them with a God that can't keep his word...but they claim he has a promise to finally get it right in the Qu'ran..seems that this presents an obvious problem ...If the word could be corrupt then a promise within the word would be useless.

Answer 3

Mohammed changed the story in his koran. The koran was written over 600 years after the New Testament was finished. Mohammed's teachings came a looong time after the Jews wrote the true account. Did you know Mohammed saw what the Christians had and wanted to unite Arabs under something else? Muslims and Christians once lived in unity (respect but not agreement) until Mohammed's teachings became popular.

In the Torah, it was not unbelievers (since pretty much everyone believed in God at that time), it was the very evil ones who were left behind. Noah and his family were doing good, but those around them were doing lots of evil things to one another. Nothing about unbelievers.

Answer 4

i like it whilst christians attack muslims. different than whilst it gets us all killed. do you're able to desire to have faith each and every word of the Koran to be a Muslim? i do no longer think of so. Why is the quoting an angel element beside the point? there is not any good judgment there, please problematic. "whether you do not have faith interior the story of Noah, which version do you think is genuine" Yeah thank your God for sparing all 9 regulation abiding people interior the international. those grimy toddlers and childrens have been given what became coming to them. Noah's Ark is a fantasy, hence the two variations are a great deal exaggerated. people in those cases relied on water for survival, growing to be flowers alongside rivers and seas. So whilst there became a drought, people suffered lots. and that they clearly blamed the Almighty, believing he became punishing them. And so an excellent flood, like a physique of water flooding a decrease one might reason a great variety of suffering and persons might bypass down thoughts approximately it, including in spite of ethical length they theory it mandatory.

Answer 5

hey guys, how do u answer a question without reading and really discovering & after that u can judge ! the qur'an does not say it this way it says that noah was a messenger from God he had a message for the people he came to but they abused him & didn't believe him including his own son & then he prayed for God to draw them then God told him to build aship & take a female & a male of every ceruter on earth and his son was not a beleiver & he told him that he will die if he didnt beleive & come with him but his son sayed no & he will go over a mountain & he will be safe but Noah knew that he will die & then he prayed again for his son to be safe but God told him that his son is not a beleiver too & he sall die like outher non beleivers

Answer 6

It doesn't matter how you twist the wording of your ? around God is killing ppl anyway.

You could ask it like this: the merciful God who spares law abiding ppl while killing all the others, or the God who kills ppl at the request of a law abiding person to spare him

What difference does it make? Couldn't bother versions be true...Noah asks God...the God warns him...

Anyway, in the Bible it says that Noah was a drunk! Genesis 9:21

And I can find tons of quotes in the Bible about God's wrath. You can cherrypick all you want --it doesn't mean your point of view is good or right. God's mercy outweighs his wrath. God is complete---your concept of him is not.

And who are these evil liers that change God's word????????

You really need to read the book Misquoting Jesus. Even if you are sure you won't believe it you can at least read it and then attack it intellectualy, right?

EDIT: This is in regards to two other posters--
If they were dilliberately doing evil then in the Islamic sense they would be non-believers because they would be denying the truth and not following it.

Also, NOT EVERYONE believed in God at that time. What a silly remark.
--Concept of God in Islam--
Some non Muslims allege that God in Islam is a stern and cruel God who demands to be obeyed fully. He is not loving and kind. Nothing can be farther from truth than this allegation. It is enough to know that, with the exception of one, each of the 114 chapters of the Quran begins with the verse: "In the name of God, the Merciful, the Compassionate." In one of the sayings of Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) we are told that "God is more loving and kinder than a mother to her dear child." But God is also Just. Hence evildoers and sinners must have their share of punishment and the virtuous, His bounties and favors. Actually God's attribute of Mercy has full manifestation in His attribute of Justice. People suffering throughout their lives for His sake and people oppressing and exploiting other people all their lives should not receive similar treatment from their Lord. Expecting similar treatment for them will amount to negating the very belief in the accountability of man in the Hereafter and thereby negating all the incentives for a moral and virtuous life in this world. The following Quranic verses are very clear and straightforward in this respect:


"Verily, for the Righteous are gardens of Delight, in the Presence of their Lord. Shall We then treat the people of Faith like the people of Sin? What is the matter with you? How judge you?" (68:34-36)

Answer 7

If you even bothered to read the passages before you would have found that Noah had already warned his people about the oncoming floods but they refused to listen. Thats why Noah said to God to make sure that they were all wiped out by the flood so that they wouldn't lead others astray.

So, both of them sounds similar to me.

Answer 8

I had never heard the Islamic version before. I don't even think that the Jewish version indicates that everyone was a "non believer", just that they were deliberately doing evil.. If they truly did not believe, then in their minds, they were not doing evil... They knew there were laws, and a God, they just chose to ignore the laws...
I could be wrong, though..

Answer 9

Every Christian and Jew would agree that Bible was changed. Nobody knows what has been changed and how many chapters/verses have been added/edited/deleted. Yet people blindly believe that Bible is the word of God.

Qur'aan is the only scripture of God that is "untouched" by human hands. Even its critics would agree it.

Christianity is a blackmail religion that forces its followers to blindly believe in Jesus as god (May God save us).

Who are you to decide God's attributes. He is what He is and not what you want Him to be.

Now you decide what is true and what is false.
Clear?

Answer 10

This is from October 1st, 1959:

Even the sacred book of the Moslems, the Quran, translated into a few tongues, recommends the Bible, saying that the Quran is “confirming that which was revealed before it; for [God] had formerly sent down the law, and the gospel [the Bible] . . . God shall teach [them] the scripture, and wisdom, and the law, and the gospel.” (The Koran, translation by G. Sale, pp. 86, 89) No book begins to reach the greatness of the Bible for its ability to speak currently to men of all ages and periods of time. It is truly an ever-living book, made possible by its vast field of prophecies that progressively are fulfilled down to our day.

14 The Bible has had a fight to live. Its enemies that have sought its destruction and tried to prevent its circulation have been the very men in Christendom who claim to be its teachers. No one should be deceived into thinking that the Bible is the cause of the evils and hypocrisy found in Christendom today. The Bible is too plain-speaking and truthful for the leaders of Christendom to teach, let alone follow. Its uncompromising stand for truth and righteousness exposes these false teachers. People of so-called heathendom should not reject the Bible because of the crimes of those religious hypocrites who render mere lip service to the Holy Scriptures. Would one blame the publishers of a dictionary or a newspaper for a crime done by a man who may have had a copy in his possession at the time of committing the crime? Of course not. So why blame the God of the Bible or the Bible itself for Christendom’s wrongdoing and delinquent acts? Actually the Bible is God’s freedom-giving gift to men of all the earth. It should be read and examined without prejudice. The knowledge it contains means life. It brings freedom. It tells for sure what will happen to this world of confusion. It alone holds out hope of happiness and a future of prosperity.

The following is from 1953

The Quran has been termed the Bible’s closest rival, it being the holy book for some 300 million Muslims who believe that it is uncreated and was sent down from the highest heavens and revealed to Muhammad by the angel Gabriel in sections or suras. In view of the fact that the charge is often made that the Bible contradicts itself, Bible lovers will not be hasty in concluding that the Quran is self-contradictory.

But in the Quran itself we find admission of such contradictions in that it claims for itself the right of “cancellation” or “abrogation.” Muhammad’s critics had complained that he sometimes contradicted himself, and so he taught that whenever a subsequent revelation contradicted a previous one, the second canceled or abrogated the first. Thus we read, “None of our revelations do We abrogate or cause to be forgotten but We substitute something better or the like. Knowest thou not that God hath power for all things?”—Sura 2:106; 16:101, Ali.

Since both the former or the canceled verse and the one that came later and does the canceling or abrogating remain in the Quran it can easily be seen how there would be contradictions in the Quran. Especially is this possible in view of the fact that it is not at all certain when each sura was “revealed,” and therefore it cannot always be determined which is the abrogating and which the abrogated text.

Some modern Muslims object to all this and claim that what Muhammad referred to as being canceled or abrogated was not anything that appeared in the Quran but only such things as may have been written in the Tourat or the Hebrew Scriptures or in the Injil or the Gospel. However, to make such a claim is to deny the testimony of history, which shows why Muhammad was accused of being a forger, as well as to ignore the context in the Quran. Such a claim is made only by some modern Muslims, for the testimony of the most noted Muslim scribes and imams of times past is to the effect that both the texts canceled and those doing the canceling are in the Quran. Says the noted Razi, on Sura 16:99, 100: “The Commentators without exception hold that cancelation has its place in the present law.” And regarding Sura 4:14, which deals with the penalty to be inflicted upon unfaithful wives, Razi says: “The school of Aba Hanifa holds that the text [in the Quran] commanding imprisonment was canceled by the one commanding stripes.” Commenting on Sura 2:102, Razi states that a passage may be canceled and yet remain in the Quran. Other authoritative Muslim commentators that have expressed like views are Beidhawi, Jelaleim and Abdulla.

The Bible presents no such difficulties. When properly understood, it is found to be harmonious from cover to cover. This is what we should expect in view of its claim to be the Word of Jehovah God. Generally those who claim that the Bible contradicts itself do so only because they fail to distinguish between literal and symbolical language, or because they fail to take into consideration the context, or because they are lacking in objectivity.