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if charles manson told you that he saw Jesus in his prison cell and then he proceeded to write a new covenant would you drop Jesus's teachings and start following his words?

if not, then why do you do the same thing with Paul? he killed ten times as many christians as charles manson, and you forsake Jesus to follow his words.

2007-05-08 18:39:40 · 12 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

12 answers

Charles Manson is a loon and I do not follow Pauline Christianity, I follow Jesus Christ

2007-05-08 18:44:53 · answer #1 · answered by tebone0315 7 · 2 1

Hi Tony L. We would know Charles Manson is a false prophet, or anyone else who claims to have a vision, a dream, or has been speaking in tounges or any other sort of divine revelation, because God tells us when He was done writing the New Testament He would not be sending any more Divine Revelation. God tells us very clearly this is the truth in Revelations 22:18:

"For I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds to these things, God will add to him the plagues that are written in this book."

As for the Apostile Paul, it is not Paul we are following. God spoke through Paul. Every word Paul wrote was from the mouth of God. Paul did not write the New Testament, God did.

2007-05-08 19:11:54 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 1 1

The Jesus of Paul and pre-Gospel Christians is part of a cast of characters, and that cast of characters only includes God and the angels and other heavenly beings. Nothing from Paul or other early epistle writers sets Jesus among a cast of people, that only happens in the Gospels and later writings, where the apostles mentioned by Paul are turned into disciples of Jesus himself. The Jesus of Paul is an eternal heavenly being, who has always existed, and if he ever did come down to earth in Paul's mind he never put him in any earthly setting or related him to any other people or places.

2007-05-08 19:11:04 · answer #3 · answered by element_115x 4 · 0 0

That is one convoluted presumption! No one 'left Jesus' to follow Paul. Paul was indwelled by the very same Holy Spirit as Jesus. If you want to make pseudo intellectual pronouncements that are sophomoric and inane, you have every right to do so. I call following the words of Paul and the words of Jesus as what they claim to be; Of God and nothing less, there is no conflict in the teachings of Paul and the teachings of Jesus, they both claim the fact that Jesus is the Christ, the Risen son of God. Just some thoughts on your...whatever it is...

2007-05-08 18:52:10 · answer #4 · answered by PilotGal 3 · 1 2

I understand WHY you don't see Paul and Jesus (as presented in the gospels) as presenting the same good news. I had the same problem at one point. But it was largely because I was allowing my views of Paul's writings to be determined not by my own reason and judgment but by others. When I studied the gospels for myself, and studied Paul's writings for myself, I came to realize that the message was the same. Paul reinterpreted the Jewish message for a Greek audience, in much the same way as Luke and Philo of Alexandria did. But the message is the same - God is Love so we should Love God and our Neighbor; Jesus is the resurrected Lord.

I also found that even within the canon of Paul's writings, his theology evolves. It might help to read his letters in roughly the order they're written in and see his ever deepening spiritual views. (Roughly: 1&2 Thessalonians, Philippians, 1&2 Corinthians, Galatians & Romans, Ephesians, Colossians...if you're interested).

Also try a good study Bible that presents the historical context into which Paul was writing. Unlike Jesus, Paul's words are directed at specific groups of people in specific situations. They lack the timeless and broad quality of Jesus' teachings, and therein lies a lot of the difficulty of reconciling the two.

Hope that helps, if you're really looking for answers.

2007-05-08 18:58:53 · answer #5 · answered by dreamed1 4 · 3 2

what would make you think that Paul dropped JESUS teaching. If you would only take the time to search out what really took place with Paul you would see for yourself that there is no comparison to the two.

2007-05-08 18:50:00 · answer #6 · answered by ✞ Ephesians 2:8 ✞ 7 · 2 2

It seems that you know nothing of Jesus, Paul or what the Bible actually has to say about them. Why do you not study it before asking such nonsensical questions.

2007-05-08 18:56:31 · answer #7 · answered by beano™ 6 · 1 2

I follow Jesus ONLY

2007-05-08 18:44:29 · answer #8 · answered by Michelle 7 · 3 1

Ah, I see the accuser of the bretheran is back attacking the apostle Paul again.

2007-05-08 18:43:57 · answer #9 · answered by Esther 7 · 3 2

boy
your such a deep thinker
your digging your own pit deeper than it needs be ,
paul saul is not a manson [perhaps a mason but thats as far as i can go]

2007-05-08 18:48:23 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 2 3

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