No one is glad that suicides go to hell. And what kind of question is that?? OK- I guess, if you are concerened because you know someone who committed suicide then I underdstand the question, then ok. But if you are looking for a debate - you are twisted.
So I don't know what religion you are referring to, but since I am catholic, I will answer it with a catholic perspective.
That suicide is unlawful is the teaching of Holy Scripture and of the Church, which condemns the act as a most atrocious crime and, in hatred of the sin and to arouse the horror of its children. Moreover, suicide is directly opposed to the most powerful and invincible tendency of every creature and especially of man, the preservation of life. Finally, for a sane man deliberately to take his own life, he must, as a general rule, first have annihilated in himself all that he possessed of spiritual life, since suicide is in absolute contradiction to everything that the Christian religion teaches us as to the end and object of life and, except in cases of insanity, is usually the natural termination of a life of disorder, weakness, and cowardice.
The reason we have advanced to prove the malice of a suicide, namely, God's right and dominion, likewise justifies the modification of the general principle: God being the master of our life He may with His own consent remove from suicide whatever constitutes its disorder. Thus do some authorities justify the conduct of certain saints, who, impelled by the desire of martyrdom and especially to protect their chastity did not wait for their executioners to put them to death, but sought it in one manner or other themselves; nevertheless, the Divine will should be certain and clearly manifested in each particular case.
**this was stated above. we don't know what is in a person's heart before they die. Only god knows that and only god can judge that person **
Positive but indirect suicide committed without Divine consent is also unlawful unless, everything considered, there is sufficient reason for doing what will cause death to follow. Thus, it is not a sin, but an act of exalted virtue, to go into savage lands to preach the Gospel, or to the bedside of the plague stricken, to minister to them, although they who do so have before them the prospect of inevitable and speedy death; nor is it a sin for workmen in the discharge of duties to climb on roofs and buildings, thus exposing themselves to danger of death, etc. All this is lawful precisely because the act itself is good and upright, for in theory the persons in question have not in view either as end or means the evil result, that is, death, that will follow, and, moreover, if there be an evil result it is largely compensated for by the good and useful result which they seek. On the other hand there is sin in exposing oneself to danger of death to display courage, to win a wager, etc., because in all these cases the end does not in any way compensate for the danger of death that is run. To judge whether or not there is sufficient reason for an act which will apparently be followed by death, all the circumstances must be weighed, namely, the importance of the good result, the greater or less certainty of its being attained, the greater or less danger of death, etc., all questions which may in a specific case be very difficult to solve.
** all this suicide stuff is VERY tricky**
The best place to look to find the official teaching of the Church on any topic is the Catechism of the Catholic Church. The Catechism summarizes the teaching in paragraphs 2280 through 2283 as part of the overall teaching on the fifth commandment: Thou shalt not kill.
First, the Catechism reminds us that life is a gift from God, who is the master of our lives. We are stewards "not owners" of our lives. Also, we believe that life is good.
Suicide is opposed to our instinct to self-preservation. It is also contrary to a just love of the self. It violates our obligation to love our neighbor, since any suicide inflicts great suffering on others, especially family members, as you well know. No Catholic should ever encourage or assist suicide. We should always seek to preserve life if that is possible.
We should never have a careless disregard for our own lives either. Therefore, playing Russian roulette, reckless driving, drug and alcohol abuse are wrong. They might take our life or the life of another. They show a lack of love for life.
But the Catechism of the Catholic Church says, "Grave psychological disturbances, anguish, or grave fear of hardship, suffering, or torture can diminish the responsibility of the one committing suicide" (No. 2282).
It continues, "We should not despair of the eternal salvation of persons who have taken their own lives. By ways known to Him alone, God can provide the opportunity for salutary repentance. The Church prays for persons who have taken their own lives" (No. 2283).
No one can appreciate the unimaginable pain that is the ultimate explanation for such a tragic action. No one, therefore, can judge a person whose choice we cannot fathom, whose life we can remember, but cannot restore, and whose pain we cannot understand. This is how the Church tends to look upon suicide today.
The Church teaches that suicide is wrong; it is contrary to the Fifth Commandment. It is an action that runs counter to the proper love of self, as well as love for God, the giver of life. We are stewards of our lives, not owners. The person who takes his or her own life also wrongs others — those who remain experience loss, bewilderment, and grief. You won’t find anything in that teaching about going to hell.
Pity, not condemnation, is the response of the Church. Prayers are offered for the deceased. Mass is celebrated. Burial with dignity, in consecrated ground, is provided for one who dies this way. Not that long ago, Christian burial was denied to those who took their own lives. There may have been another denial at work in those days, too — denial of our inability to understand the pain. We assumed that those who chose to take their own lives were acting freely and under no psychological distress or illness. Or worse, there may have been a denial of responsibility to try to understand the pain. As your son said in the note he left behind, he just didn’t know what else to do.
So for those of us who remain, the Church encourages paying attention to the pain that produced the action. Then, look forward, not back, to pain within ourselves and pain in others, especially when we see no signs and hear no calls for help.
Why do we avoid speaking to one another about inner pain? Why are we not more sensitive to the pain in others’ hearts, or able to read the pain in others’ eyes? Why do we spend millions for “pain relief ” over the counter or by prescription, but not spend the time it takes to encourage those who may be hurting to open up? This kind of thinking is all now part of the Church’s pastoral response to the tragedy of suicide.
It seems to me that there has to be some mysterious insulation enveloping those who commit suicide. Tragically, their minds cannot be read by those around them, nor can they reach out and ask for help. Again, the unimaginable pain.
The Church teaches through liturgy, and the liturgy on occasions like these stresses divine mercy. Take a look at Psalm 103, and recall the dimensions of God’s mercy — as far as the east is from the west, as high as the skies are above the earth.
The Church still teaches that there is a hell, but leaves it to God to decide who should go there. And divine decisions, in this regard, are filtered through divine mercy. Tragedy at the end of this life is no sure sign of an eternal tragedy in the next. CD
2007-05-08 10:30:03
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answered by Anonymous
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I don't believe that anyone can be certain of what happens when someone commits suicide. It is possible that they have the opportunity to repent before the act is completed and God is merciful to us all because of his love for us. There are situations in which I can't imagine that some folks didn't go to hell such as Saddam Husein, the terrorists from 9/11, etc., because there didn't appear to be any desire for forgiveness. Besides those extremes, I can't really say. I could be very wrong for believing that but I'm human. Even so, I certainly would not wish this upon them. If anything, it pains me to believe that someone may have gone to hell because I can't imagine the horrors they may experience for all of eternity. I can't imagine that Satan himself would stay there if he didn't have to and he's the reason for its existence.
I pray that nobody have to experience this and pray for myself because I'm not perfect, again, I'm human and make foolish and selfish decisions at times. If it wasn't for the knowledge of God's love and his divine grace, I just don't believe that I could go on.
Nobody "deserves" to go to heaven but again, because of his divine grace and mercy, we Christians know that we can and will be forgiven so we look forward to heaven with anticipation.
2007-05-08 15:54:59
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answered by CUrias 5
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