Has anyone heard the new "discovery" about CA bill 1634?

Question

The exemption permits for shows, dogs, police,dogs guide dogs ect ALL expire January 1, 2009 ! At which point, ALL dogs/ cats in CA must be spayed/neutered to be leagal.
It really is genocide

Yoane12 I have read the bill! The section 2e states the permits will only be there for 2 years - then snip snip- and we won't even go into the fact there is no such thing as a 4 month old working dog. What should seeing eye do for breeders? unspay after training?.
Section 2(e) Any person who, on or after April 1, 2008, is in possession of
any document issued by the local jurisdiction or its authorized
animal control agency that permits the owner to possess an unaltered
cat or dog shall be deemed in compliance with this act UNTILL the
document expires, or January 1, 2009.

Answer 1

YEAH BABY!!!

Don't wory there are plenty that feel they are above the law they will breed. The hope is at least the quality will get better. Hopefully they won't risk breaking the law for a mutt

Answer 2

You just need proof for the reason not to neuter and simply apply for a permit. The law isn't that bad. I'd challenge any person to give a really good reason why this law shouldn't come into affect after reading the actual law and this FAQ:

http://www.cahealthypets.com/faqs.htm

The bill as it stands right now exempts service and police dogs, possibly without a fee being charged. Same for guide dogs.

The permits can't expire across the whole because the way they are going to set them up will be a yearly permit. So it will expire the same date the year after you obtain the initial RENEWABLE permit, just like a drivers licence.

Edit: (e) Any person who, on or after April 1, 2008, is in possession of any document issued by the local jurisdiction or its authorized animal control agency that permits the owner to possess an unaltered cat or dog shall be deemed in compliance with this act until the document expires, or January 1, 2009, which ever occurs first.

http://www.assembly.ca.gov/acs/acsframeset2text.htm

I'll break this down in simple terms. Up until this point someone may have had a document issued by a county stating "you are fine to leave your dog unaltered". This clause does not state 'intact permit'. The 'intact permit' is the NEW permit/licence in which everyone has to get in order to keep their dog or cat from being neutered - in other words this law is guaranteed to supersede any other local county laws and documents that may have been issued that were in place up until Jan '09 or until it expires (which ever comes first). In the next paragraph it states:

Article 3. Permits
122336.2. (a) A local jurisdiction shall issue an intact permit, as defined in subdivision (a) of Section 122336, if any of the following conditions is met: etc.

Yes it is confusing, but a locally certified/county issued document isn't the same thing as an state certified/county issued 'intact permit'. If you read the original text amended date 04/09/2007 Article 2, section 122336.1. subdivision (d). It is a better representation of what they were trying implement but it was revised and they ended up making 'documents' and 'inact permits' separate terminology.

It probably will go through several revisions before April to make things clearer but they definitely aren't trying to neuter every dog out there. They simply want to curb the endless amounts of money the taxpayer is pouring into euthanizing thousands (perhaps millions) of dogs and cats because California has a very bad pet overpopulation problem. They will accomplish this by not only neutering animals that aren't nominated to breed, but they will be raising funds from the folks that DO want to breed their dogs with the permit fees to contribute to a free or reduced cost neutering program for everyone else who would rather not be involved in breeding.

Answer 3

It really is BS. While I could care less for all the mutts out there, it is the working dogs that bother me. Imagine, police dogs that have to be fixed. And before anyone jumps here, police dogs ARE NOT fixed and they will not be purchased fixed either. They need the aggression that hormones produce to work effectively. What about all the working/sports dogs? What if I want a dog to compete in a sport that involves bite work like Sch, IPO, KNPV, NVBK, French Ring, Campagne? What happens to those dogs? I have never fixed any of my dogs and do not believe in doing it. I have working animals that need the drive and aggression that comes from the hormonal output. I have never had an accidental breeding in 27 years, why should I be punished for other people's crap? We are going to lose all of our good dogs with the crap dogs if this law goes into effect.