If god created everything who created him?

Answer 1

I wasn't going to respond to this until I saw the other answers. Some of them are quite strange.

"God is the alpha and the omega" or "God just IS" or "God is a spirit and spirits don't need to be created" or "where did the matter come from?" are answers completely lacking in sense.

The universe just is. Matter just is. If the universe didn't exist, there would be nothing. Yet there is something, therefore the universe exists. We have empirical evidence that proves the universe exists. We know for an absolute fact the universe exists. To say "the universe exists, deal with it" is completely valid and cannot be contradicted, because quite clearly you'd have a very hard time convincing anyone the universe doesn't exist.

The same logic cannot be used for a creator. We have no conclusive evidence of a creator, and no evidence of a creator at all that couldn't also point to natural selection. To say, "God exists, deal with it" is completely invalid because God existing is quite debatable.

To say that the universe had to have a creator is also illogical. You are assuming you understand the whole of the universe better than the greatest scientists of the day who admit the universe is bigger and more complicated than they can understand right now. They come up with theories like the big bang as a model to explain what they can observe with the limitations of human thought and technology. Because scientists don't know something (yet), that isn't a call to introduce a magical being with strange properties to fill in all the holes science leaves us. What's so bad about saying "I don't know?"

"God is the mathematicians x." Used to quantify unknown values. The x is a great tool in mathematics, but a piss poor one in life and science.

"God is `Von Neumann's Catastrophe` to the Nth degree." No matter what science says about the natural world, whether the earth is flat, or the sun revolves around the earth, God always seems to be there at the edges of human exploration. That isn't the sign of an all powerful God, that is a sign that the idea of god is a fallacy. It's tautology masking as truism.

Voltaire knew hundreds of years ago that "if god didn't exist, one would have to be created." What makes you think this isn't exactly what happened?

In terms of where God came from, one has to look at what God is.

I'm going to have to go ahead and coin a term here, but god is a "Memetic being."

The Christian God (and any other god) exists as an idea. This is true and important whether or not He exists in any tangible form.

A flippant atheist might suggest, "Yeah and so did the imaginary friend you had when you were a kid, that doesn't mean anything." The difference is that when you stopped having the imaginary friend, he went away. God is slightly, but significantly, different.

The idea of god is very much alive, and has been for thousands of years. I am being quite serious when I say "alive" in that context. The idea of god reproduces (through the communication of individuals) and evolves (schisms, new religions, off-shoot religions, an individuals learning) and even communicates (when a believer has an idea they would not have had if that person did not have the idea of god in his head.)

At the very least, God is alive in human consciousness. Considering many of us strive ito acheive a higher level of consciousness, perhaps the the idea of god really IS a higher being.

Considering that God exists in our consciousness, it should come as no surprise that God is actually quite powerful, if only as an idea.

This is why atheists cannot and must not expect much by engaging theists on logic and science alone. The idea of God is quite literally on a higher plane for tha vast majority of the population.

Instead atheists must understand and respect the power of the idea of God (as well as religion) and understand how things got to be this way.

Anyone who really wants to advocate atheism, must understand that quite a few memes are going to have to be replaced, and that it is the memetic level that we must concentrate on.

Answer 2

This is that good 'ole basic question ...and I love it.

But the better question is, why do all things have to have a beginning and an end?

Some will say that god always was and always will be. That's interesting but ...hm mm... it sort of leaves me feeling a tad flat since I have no evidence for god anywhere before me nor anything from the past that I can clearly recognize as true evidence. It's preposterous, to me, to believe such a complexity as god "must be" and then be required to take that complexity without evidence and on faith alone... It just doesn't hold water.

Instead, I'm inclined to think that the universe - and everything in it, all matter and energy and space, are the likely candidates to have always been; moreover, my thinking tells me that god is a creation of man and just an idea, (...and a very false and quickly passing idea, too,) rather than being a real and factual entity. The Big Bang..? That could have its place, but I tend to think that if one occurred many probably have preceded it and others will very likely follow it.

There are naturally several ways to slice this pie... but, golly, I can't think of any more likely, credible or simple possibilities than this one, and I'm a simple man who requires simplicity - I'm somewhat like nature in that way. I seek efficiency over complexity.

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Answer 3

No one. God IS. Hence the "alpha and omega", God is immortal and not bound by the laws of this world [everything moves toward entrophy [sp] if something moves towards an end, then it must have a begining] Since god is eternal he follows no ending path, therefore he has no begining.

Answer 4

The Book of Genesis says, "In the beginning God.." God has always existed and no one created him.

Answer 5

This question pops up more than pop corn. He is infinate has always been , is, and always will be. We as humans have to have a beginning but God does not. No one created Him. His word simply states "I Am."

Answer 6

ain't it funny how everything that gives birth is from a woman, except a male sea horse? where are the strong women in Christianity? Oh mother Mary that virgin who gave birth to Christ? Oh please and I was born yesterday.
Where's the Goddess?
women obey the men and all that crap, so obvious a male chauvinistic pigs wrote it!!
If Molby Dick was the first book, would people be worshiping a whale? LOL!!!

Answer 7

He is spirit, and therefore does not have the same properties as material things. Therefore, He does not need to have been created just because material things did.

Answer 8

It is easier for some people to believe that God has always existed rather than consider the possibility that the universe has always existed.

Answer 9

The Bible says he is the Alfa and Omega -the beginning and the end.
+– Exact meanings
+– Alpha and Omega: The beginning and the end, the first one and the last one.

Answer 10

To tell you the truth i dotn know and i really want to find out who created him but i just dont anderstund!