Athiests, Jewish, Muslims, and all what does "Unto us a Son is given, and he will be almighty God." mean?

Question

Isaiah 9:6 Unto us a child will be born, a son given, and he will be almighty God, and the prince of peace."

what does that prediction from many years before Jesus the Messiah came to earth mean to you.

please dont say the bible is tampered with-it is from the Hebrew and still in the Jewish Scriptures-Why would those prophecied to reject the Messiah (ISAIAH 53 "HE WILL BE REJECTED AND LAY DOWN HIS LIFE TO MAKE ATONEMENT FOR OUR SINS." WHY WOULD THEY put this in there and leave it in there? why not be real-reality check

wow many answers but not many with the answer

one even says that this 'mighty God' would be Hezekiah!

wow another quotes the Koran to say that Isaiah is a liar and that there will be no Messiah Son of God. what a conflict of interest!!!

ONE ANSWERER SAYS ISLAM IS THE NATURAL CALL yet is it natural for a man not to go to prison for messing with a 9 year old little girl Aysha who Mohamed took to bed as his wife as the Islamic Hadith states when he was 40 years old-
or for Sunni's and Shiite Muslims to blow up each others mosques since January 2006 bombing of the golden mosque-and dragging each others religious leaders into the street and cold blooded murdering them? When Jesus says to love your enemies and repent of sin and be born again=John 3 and also chapter 10 and more.

Inat says that it was not Jesus that it was a man that is 'Mighty God' wow when we reject simple truth its amazing what we will believe.


and to say that pagans incorporated stuff-why not believe what God says?
why not read Hal Linsey -"The Promise' that goes through many bible prophecies and proves again it is Jesus our Messiah

better yet why not read the Jewish scriptures and believe them!!!!

the Messiah says "I love you and ask you to repent of sin and ask me into your heart door and become my friend and me your friend." Revelation 1:1 & 3:19&20

what do you have to lose believing the Messiah-as a Jew it worked for me! now Jesus is my messiah good sheperd and best friend.

Interesting someone doesnt answer the question-yet says that I dont understand what is written.

Hello What Is written is "Unto us a child is born, a son is given, and he will be the wonderful counselor, MIGHTY GOD, and the prince of peace." what does that mean to YOU????

Answer 1

I'm with you all the way and praise God He has opened your eye's...
Isaiah is one of my favourite Prophets. God has spoken many things to me from this book..

Praying for the day when all God's people will see and accept Jesus as their Messiah.
Luke ch 13; 34: Jesus said how he longed to gather His people like a hen gathers her chicks, but they wouldn't let Him..v 35: "you will not see me again until you say Blessed is He who comes in the name of The Lord"
Forgive my spelling,
Baruch aba Shem Adonni
~~Shalom~~

Answer 2

Interesting that you address this to people who may or may not believe the truth of the assertion. I don't think it was so much as you describe, as that Jesus decided to fulfill the prophecies. Why he did so is open to speculation. Perhaps he had foresight enough to know a large change would take place in the human race as a result, and desired that change. Perhaps he was obsessed, or inspired, or however you interpret it. And perhaps he was a time-traveler who knew that it would have the effect it had because he was from the future where that effect was history. Realize that if time travel ever becomes possible, then time travelers have probably been around for a long time. I know the English language is not equipped to handle the paradoxes of non-linear time, but think about it. Van Daanikan wrote "Chariots of the Gods." Perhaps he should have written "Time Machines of the Gods."

Answer 3

Not sure...but I have seen a comparison of prophecies used in the OT to predict JC and not many worked.
I'm reading a book 'The Jesus Mysteries' that shows how many 'pagan' beliefs were incorporated into Christian mythology.
I've seen your answers before and I can see by your comments to other posts you're going to refuse to see/understand any answer other than whatever seems to back you up 100%. Shame. People like you would fail a reading class since it involves comprehending what is written.

Answer 4

Does the fact of something being originally written in Hebrew mean it must be immutably true?

Okay - for non-Christian believers Nice. Prophecy. But it doesn't say he'll be born in 0 A.D. in Bethlehem... No reason to presume it's Jesus any more than that it's Mickey Mantle.

For non-believers: It's just a vague sentence written by man. No more prophetic than Nostradamus. Write something vague and people can read into it whatever they want...

Answer 5

first off it's Isaiah 9:5

5. For a child has been born to us, a son given to us, and the authority is upon his shoulder, and the wondrous adviser, the mighty God, the everlasting Father, called his name, "the prince of peace."

Learn Hebrew before you make up false translations about someone being a god. This is the actual translation from someone who knows fluent Hebrew

Furthermore the passage is divided: a child will be born to us, a son given to us, and the authority is upon his shoulder AND (and then G-D who is...) the wondrous adviser, the mighty God, the everlasting Father, called his name, "the prince of peace."

Also this passage is referring to Hezekiah not jesus

IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH HEZEKIAH BEING A GOD AT ALL. "the the wondrous adviser, the mighty God, the everlasting Father." IS REFERRING TO G-D HIMSELF. AND IT ESPECIALLY IS NOT EVER BEEN REFFERING TO JESUS STOP SAYING STUPID THINGS!!

"and… called his name" -
The Holy One, blessed be He, Who gives wondrous counsel, is a mighty God and an everlasting Father, called Hezekiah’s name, “the prince of peace,” since peace and truth will be in his days.

Stop making up crap to try to fit any of this into being jesus

as a Jew I'd like to say that JEW4MESSIAH is speaking on behalf of a very very small fracture of Jews who are very very OFF THEIR ROCKERS

you cant be a Jew and believe that jesus was, is and will ever be the messiah. the two religions cannot coexist together.

I respect Christians opinions and views and think that as long as they believe in a higher power and want to lead a moral life then that's super. But I will not stand by as this JEW4MESSIAH tarnishes the name of Jews everywhere.

I hope no one here thinks that his skewed views hold any weight at all here or in the Jewish religion.

Answer 6

Come on - you seem not even to know the history of the bible for goodness sake!!!!

It was collated from hundreds of scrolls and many scholars believe the rest are often in total disagreement with the books chosen. If it was an honest bible - why do the Vatican have all the stuff under lock and key and won't even let serious experts from universities see them?

You make the very silly mistake of trying to force your own viewpoint on your religion on everyone else as if they are silly!! All you have done is make it much worse for the good Christians to get the message out!!!

Questions like yours do immense damage to Christianity and the churches which are emptying fast. They are being driven away by pseudo Christians trumpeting misguided extremism.

Wonder what will happen to you at the final coming? I suspect some asbestos underwear may be appropriate!!!

Answer 7

That Christianity deliberately fashioned their Messiah with these passages in mind?

That their story/interpretation was never accepted by the Jewish people?

That Christianity deliberately piggybacked onto an existing religion in much the same way that Joseph Smith piggybacked Mormonism onto Christianity?

The CORRECT translation of the verse (Isaiah 9:6) is:

"For a child has been born, given to us (Israel/Judea), dominion will be upon his shoulders and he will call out to the Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Eternal Father, Prince of Peace."

Completely different meaning. The Christians deliberately fudged the text to create their 'prophecy'.

Answer 8

There are many accounts of saviors of mankind to be sacrificed for the sins of all. It was a common theme adopted by many religions before Jesus' time. Read up on Vishnu, the similarities might shake you a bit.

Answer 9

I have no idea. But while we're dissecting fairy tales, does anyone know what "green eggs and ham" symbolizes? I think it's a prophetic message about Islam and GMO crops but I'm not sure.

Answer 10

It means you're a f*cking moron for believing something that has no proof. Kinda like that dipshit John Smith and how he made up mormonism. Some guy on peyote just making shi*t up and getting other idiots to believe him.