Why does god allow horrible things to happen?

Question

Murder, child molestation, war, torture, rape, etc., etc.......

And don't give me any of that free will crap, cause I'm not buying it. A god who truly loved his people would never allow some of the horrors in the world today. God is more powerful than satan, so don't tell me it's the devil's fault either. Gotta be one sick puppy to sit on your high horse and watch some of the things that go on in the world today.

If you don't believe in god you go to hell (in a nutshell), what kind of choice is that? God loves you, but if you don't worship him your gonna spend an eternity in agonizing pain, WTF? Is that truly love? Heck no it's not!! Does anyone feel like I do on this subject?

I am blaming "god" because he ALLOWS these things to happen. If YOU were god and had the power to stop these things, wouldn'tt you? Better yet, I never would of allowed them to start.

And I wouldn't demand money either. Why does god need my damn money?

ugh......I give up.......

Answer 1

Yes I feel exactly like you do and I think that your question is valid but that no one can really answer it. You'll see people try to justify their God and say it is not his fault. I don't buy that either. Why should God get excuses and not us.

Answer 2

Sorry to read that you do not believe you have free will. But you do. The alternative is to be a robot and I personally do not think we are robots.

You list "murder, child molestation, war, torture, rape .." those are all things that people do one to another. I can understand wanting to point the finger at God and say He is responsible. However people are responsible for their own actions.

Answer 3

Absolutely. Like I've said in another answer, an all-knowing God knows the future, therefore the future is predetermined. Therefore since we're all going to perform actions and God knows what they are, free will does not exist.

There's the argument that God created evil as a counterbalance to good... but if this is the case, that God cannot be omnibenevolent. An infinitely kind God cannot have the capacity to create evil.

Answer 4

Again, another question where the asker wants to edit the answers before they are given. Don't blame us free-willers because you don't want a truthful answer. Just because you can't handle the truth... Do you have parents that run ramshod over your life and allow you absolutely no freedom? Or at some point do they allow you to make your own decisions, even the bad ones? God has given man every tool to make correct decsions, man chooses his fate and sometimes chooses unwisely. If you don't like the answer, stop asking the question.

Answer 5

What would you have God do, create a perfect world? God chooses to allow whatever happens to happens through God's own munificent benevolence. Some would have you believe it's all just a test, others blame the "bad" stuff one Satan and his minions, 'cause only good from come from God...even though God created everything. Who are we to question God's choices in what he allows or makes happen? It is God's universe, after all.

Answer 6

Very intelligent Q- really

Now to understand this we first much understand what we are. If we accept we are not the material machine but the conscious energy which animates it - hence forth known as the soul. Now since you brought up a Supreme being- what is the relationship between the soul and the Supersoul? The relationship between the soul and the Supersoul is one of pure loving service. The soul is part and parcel of the Supersoul with the same attributes- like a drop of the ocean got the same qualities not the same quantity. One of the major qualities is independence- Since He has complete independence He can do anything. We also have this quality but it is not so great due to our infinitesmal nature.
But if we desire to enjoy (His position) separately (another propensity we share with the Supreme) then the Supreme Father cant force a loving relationship- that would not be spontaneous and pure. God is the only transcendental enjoyer in the Eternal world. Therefore He manifests this material creation for us to play in. In it we try to enjoy in different bodies acting or playing different parts- in our mind's eye we are the star of the show- ''We are God''. This is the real God delusion. Whether male or female body we want to be the greatest (Ali), Wealthiest,Wisest, Most Beautiful, Most Renounced, Most Famous and Most Powerful- These are God's qualities but we aspire for them. What we find is generally distress in this world because we cant have these qualities. The real reason why God is not found is because if the person with all divine oplulences were around- we could not enjoy or aspire to be as great as Him/Her. So since there are many of us in this insignificant planet- we serve as devotees to each other. We always view each other in terms of what can be gotten from the other party. Certain cosmic laws are therefore necessary to govern this chaos. Hence the inescapable Law of Karma or cause and effect, of which, a derivative is Newton's 3rd law, which is where I can really begin to answer your q (With the above mentioned info it makes more sense).

As you sow so shall you reap -Biblical. But if one understands that there is more than just one life to live it makes more sense. Otherwise its unjust and would seem downright cruel. You mentioned the plethora of horrible incidents of this world. Like if one had to walk in on an execution of a man- we might think that it would be evil to kill that man but if we found out that he was the leader of genocide it might make more sense. Similarly, children have existed before and like you and I have had innumerable lives. This is why one child is born into a home with a silver spoon and another into a deplorable condition (according to previous activies based on desire and subsequent cosciousness). You may think this is cruel too but in the grand cosmic scale one lifetime is insignificant. God has given us a chance do whatever we want from becoming gods to war heros, beauty queens, Heads of states, hobbos, lions, redwood trees, jellyfish etc. The same indivisible spiritual particle inhabiting different material machines. Eternal torment for finite bad is illogical or unfair, and Kingdom of God for some good deeds is also equally illogical- both lead to unsound math. We have so much freedom- but still even in the best conditions happiness eludes us. How is it that some streetsweepers are happier than some billionaires. In this world happiness is relative. Our real desire is exponential absolute happiness without limits which is available in the Infinite one. Since this is our natural activity- and we are eternal without beginning or end- it makes sense when we understand our real eternal identity then we experience real substantial happiness. It is not possible to experience infinite happiness using the body since it is not our real nature. And it has limits, time and space- we cannot eat as much as we want, we cannot have unending enjoyment. Sex is the highest gross material pleasure but it is so temporary for both men and women. What I am talking about goes lightyears further and is far more substantial. The greatest happiness in this world is love but this too is met with suffering since separation is painful for both partners and happens at death or divorce. God is merciful because He sends His sons, servants and other confidential devotees to give us this divine knowledge. One can only take a horse to water but we cant force it to drink.

In conclusion, neverending satisfaction can occur in self realization- when one understands their actual direct relationship with the Infinite we attain infinite happiness.

Answer 7

As long as man continues to be the creator of God these questions will remain baffling and contentious.

Answer 8

Congratulations Dear Seeker, You are at the doorway of light.
Thank you for asking these questions. Go read The Disappearance of the Universe by Gary R.Renard-quick!! Then go study a book called A Course In Miracles. You will find some answers there. Look for these books in your public library or go to Barnes and Noble or any big book store. If they are out they can order them. Go online to Foundation For the Course In Miracles. Go to your search to find many sites devoted to this wonderful study. Keep an open mind and read carefully. It takes time.

Yes, dear, you would have to be "one sick puppy", except God didn't create this world and I mean that literally. God created perfection. And I am not referring to the fall in the garden story. Read Gary's book.

Bless you and good luck in your pursuit of knowledge.

Answer 9

WHAT HAVE YOU DONE ABOUT IT?IT SEEMS YOU DON'T
BELIEVE,BUT THAT'S NOT FOR ME, TO SAY,ONLY YOU AND GOD KNOWS.IF I TELL YOU OF EARTHLY THINGS AND YOU DON'T BELIEVE,HOW CAN I TELL YOU OF HEAVENLY THINGS.WHY? ARE THEY ALWAYS BLAMING GOD AND NOT MEN,WHO ARE COMMITTING THE ACTS.
We are Liars if we say we have not sinned
1Jo:1:8: If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
1Jo:1:9: If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
1Jo:1:10: If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.
1Jo:2:1: My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:
1Jo:2:2: And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.
1Jo:2:3: And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.
1Jo:2:4: He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
1Jo:2:5: But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him.
1Jo:2:6: He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.

Answer 10

It's in Christ that we find out who we are and what we are living for. Long before we first heard of christ, .....he had his eye on us, had designs on us for glorious living, part of the overall purpose he is working out in everything and everyone.

ephesians 1:11