Could you ever believe that St. Paul (Rabbi Saul) ever sabotaged Christianity on purpose ?

Question

I believe Paul is the greatest hero of Judaism since Moses.

I personally believe he knew that if he did not do something drastic then the precious covenant given to the Jews could be lost and redirected to the followers of Jesus, the Jewish Messiah.

After reading about the two sons of Isaac where it says Jacob would even use deception to get the blessing of the covenant from his father it is not hard to see how a very religious Jew would do whatever was necessary to make sure Judaism maintained the covenant.

He "converted" and then helped introduce some very powerful and wise changes to the message of Jesus that would insure the theological superiority of Judaism over these "renegades:.

1) Saul introduced the concept that the Christians should target their message for the gentiles thereby leaving the Jews alone.

2) Saul introduced Mithraism and polytheism into the foundation of faith to attract the pagans and gentiles.

3)Saul negated the Divine Law thereby leaving Christians without the ability to fulfill the holy covenant and establishing the laws of God on the earth.

4)Paul also negated the practice of circumcism which was a symbol of the covenant since the times of Abraham thereby sealing the fate for Christianity.


Genesis 17:9-10 ---Then God said to Abraham, "As for you, you must keep my covenant, you and your descendants after you for the generations to come.
This is my covenant with you and your descendants after you, the covenant you are to keep: Every male among you shall be circumcised.

Galatians 5:2 ---- Mark my words! I, Paul, tell you that if you let yourselves be circumcised, Christ will be of no value to you at all.


What do you think…… a possible scenario ?

We cannot blame the Jews for what one man chose to do on his own accord but you have to admire the superior intelligence and planning !


//

Answer 1

jesus bespoke of one who would come after him
seems he came pretty quick
i agree paul/saul did much to shape christianity
jesus never wanted any ''new'' church he came to restore his fathers divided house

Answer 2

Did you ever read Jeremiah 31:31-33?

Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:

Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD:

But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.

This is the Covenant of Grave brought in by Jesus Christ, and seal with the Indwelling of the Holy Spirit into the hearts of all who believe.

Paul was an Apostle to the Gentiles and Peter was spent to the Jews.

Don't believe in Satans Lie!

Circumcism was under the Dispenataion of Law. The Dispensation of Grace was issued in by Jesus.

Remeber, Jesus said himself, he was a fulfillment of the law.

Answer 3

I don't know if I see your point. The purpose of Paul was that he believed that being "in Christ" replaced the covenant and Law, so circumcision and dietary laws were not necesary. I don't know what you mean by Paul bringing in mithraism or polytheism. And he tried repeatedly to preach to his fellow Jews but they found him blasphemous. Paul had no intentions of starting a new religion. He believed that the world was going to end any day and that Christ would return as the JEWISH messiah. He wanted to spread the news so that Christ could return sooner, but he was a Jew to the day he died. And you are misquoting Galatians.

Answer 4

Considering that Paul once bitterley opposed the teaching of Christianity, so much so that Jesus had to speak to him out of heaven to get him to stop, Paul then changed completely and became the foremost preacher of Christianity.
Jesus chose him and backed him. to the tune of 14 bible books.
From that we can surmise that Jesus was inspiring what Paul taught. So Paul was NOT sabotaging Christianity in any way.

Answer 5

i've got self assurance all people WHO HAS A VOICE CAN convince A PERSUASION OF a faith. no rely if or not they renowned THEIR keen OR not all of them SABOTAGE faith to three ranges AND IN OTHERS THEY build INTO human beings a clean get away FROM THAT faith. i think of there is the potential for SABOTAGE by ability of ALL SAINTS via fact THEIR TEACHINGS ARE SO diverse THAN OTHERS.

Answer 6

Saul/Paul was not a rabbi

Answer 7

nah, he more likely did those things to get his own power.

Not for any autistic reasons.

Answer 8

1) Saul introduced the concept that the Christians should target their message for the gentiles thereby leaving the Jews alone.Maybe

2) Saul introduced Mithraism and polytheism into the foundation of faith to attract the pagans and gentiles.100% correct...

3)Saul negated the Divine Law thereby leaving Christians without the ability to fulfill the holy covenant and establishing the laws of God on the earth.
THE

12 COMMANDMENTS

(10+2)



1. YOU shall love, honour, cherish and obey the Lord your God (love, good and truth) with ALL your heart, with ALL your mind, with ALL your soul and with ALL your strength and Him ONLY shall you serve and OBEY, forsaking ALL others.

2. YOU shall NOT create an image or likeness of ANYTHING that is IN HEAVEN, or on earth, or under the sea and YOU shall NOT worship or BUY such things. YOU shall NOT bow down to them or serve them for I the "I AM" your God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate (or disobey) Me; and showing mercy unto thousands of them that love (and obey) Me, and KEEP My COMMANDMENTS.

3. Honour your Father in Heaven and KEEP His COMMANDMENTS; LAWS; Statutes; Judgements; Economic Policy; Agricultural Policy and Diet that He gave to YOU and your Mother, the British Nation Israel, His wife (metaphorically), at Mt. Sinai and make Him proud of YOU.

4. YOU shall NOT commit adultery, either physically, individually, or spiritually, nationally or individually but shall be FAITHFUL to God, your word and your spouse, also NOT committing adultery nationally by following the wrong examples of other nations.

5. YOU shall NOT use the Lord's name, unless you are speaking to Him, or about Him, then you will not waste His time or insult Him.

6. Love your neighbour (not physically) as much as, or more than, you love your "Self". Then you will not do wrong, or lie, to anyone - John 15 v 13.
Do NOT desire eagerly, or touch, anything that does not belong to you. It belongs to your neighbour, not you, and YOU must respect HIS property. Your neighbour is the person next to you and the person on the far side of the planet and everyone in between.

7. YOU shall NOT lie, even to your "Self".

8. Remember the Sabbath and KEEP it Holy. It is NOT wrong to do GOOD deeds on the Sabbath. The Sabbath was made for man. Man was not made for the Sabbath.

9. YOU shall NOT steal. Neither shall you make up your own laws to enable you to do so by deceiving people.

10. YOU shall NOT murder - kill illegally.

11. YOU shall love one another as much as I love you and in the same way - spiritually not physically - John 15 v 13. IF you DO this, ALL men will KNOW that you ARE my disciples and are exercising and learning "Self" discipline - Discipleship.

12. Judge no-one, so that you will not be judged, by God, for by whatever judgement you judge another, unjustly, you condemn yourself to the same punishment. Judging is God's job exclusively, as He is always unbiased, impartial, uncorruptible and just. He has given His judgements, in His Law Books given to you at Mt. Sinai, by which He judges those who break His Laws. There are NO other laws on this planet that are LEGAL. God has strictly FORBIDDEN man from making up laws (Deuteronomy 4:2). God's Laws are the same for everyone. God does NOT have separate Laws - one for the rich and another one for the poor.

H.M. GOVERNMENT
+HEALTH WARNING+
Breaking The 12 (10+2)
COMMANDments
SERIOUSLY damages YOUR health
Copyright © 1995 - JAH - all rights reserved


4)Paul also negated the practice of circumcism which was a symbol of the covenant since the times of Abraham thereby sealing the fate for Christianity.


Genesis 17:9-10 ---Then God said to Abraham, "As for you, you must keep my covenant, you and your descendants after you for the generations to come.
This is my covenant with you and your descendants after you, the covenant you are to keep: Every male among you shall be circumcised.

Galatians 5:2 ---- Mark my words! I, Paul, tell you that if you let yourselves be circumcised, Christ will be of no value to you at all.


What do you think…… a possible scenario ?

Paul is a LIAR!!!!!!

Paul, in attempting to teach, was dis-obeying his Master (Matthew 23:8-10) and has caused more damage to Christ's Mission and Kingdom than anyone else has because all of the "so-called" christian religions are based on the letters of Paul and NOT on the Teaching of Christ. Some of the letters, or parts of his letters, were not even written or dictated by Paul but are still attributed to him, by the churches, who have founded themselves, AGAINST Christ's orders (Matthew 6:5 & 6), on what are referred to as being "the Letters of Paul".

Matthew 6
6:5 And when thou prayest, thou shalt NOT be as the hypocrites [ARE]: for they love to pray standing in the churches and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen by men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward (they wanted to be seen and they have been seen, so they already have the reward they wanted and therefore God will NOT answer them).
6:6 But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and WHEN THOU HAST SHUT THY DOOR, pray to thy Father IN PRIVATE (Enoch 56:5; Sura 7:55); and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly (by answering you).

ALL of the "so-called" christian churches always quote the letters of Paul and NOT Christ for their own existence, and, if there is a conflict, they take the view they think is expressed in Paul's letters, rather than Christ's view. This, in itself, is AGAINST Christ's Teaching recorded in Matthew 23 and Matthew 6 and is also totally illogical because they take what they think is the opinion of a student in primary school (Paul) and give it more credibility than the opinion of the Supreme and ONLY Teacher and that is not only illogical, it is dis-obedient and stupid when your life depends upon getting it right.

Matthew 23
23:7 And greetings in the markets, and to be called by men, Priest, Rabbi, Imam, etc.
23:8 But be not ye called priest (etc.): for one is your Master, [even] Christ; and all ye are brethren.
23:9 And call NO [man] your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.
23:10 Neither be ye called masters: for one is your Master, [even] Christ.
23:11 But he that is greatest among you shall be your servant.
23:12 And whosoever shall exalt himself shall be abased; and he that shall humble himself shall be exalted.
23:13 But woe unto you, lawyers and politicians, (who were also priests) hypocrites! for ye shut up the Kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in [yourselves], neither allow ye them that are entering to go in.




Christianity as you know it should be more
accurately titled "Paulianity or Churchianity".

People follow the "so-called" teaching of Paul rather than Christ and go to church because they are lazy and are looking for an "easy-path" and there is NO easy path. So they are being deceived by satan and are suffering from "Self"-delusion and become priests and "agents of evil", unwittingly, most of them.

Matthew 7
7:13 Enter ye in at the "Strait" gate: for wide [is] the gate, and broad [is] the way (the "easy-path"), that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat (most of mankind):
7:14 Because Strait [is] the gate, and narrow [is] The Way (like the eye of a needle), which leadeth unto Life, and (extremely) few there be that find it (as the "Times of Noah" will it be").

People spend lifetimes trying to understand what Paul meant in his letters, instead of spending their time studying, doing and "Living" the Teaching of Christ and DAILY crucifying "Self", as Paul had already done. "Take up your cross DAILY and follow ME - MY example and Teaching on how to do it." (Luke 9:23).

Christ came to set up His Kingdom using His Servant NATION Israel (the British), not Judah (the Jewish), as a foundation for it and then by implementing the NATIONAL Laws; Statutes; Judgements; Economic Policy; Agricultural Policy and healthy balanced diet, that He gave to Israel (the British), through Moses, at Horeb, in Sinai, to gradually graft the Gentile nations into Israel, and make the whole world into the Kingdom of Israel - God's Kingdom on Earth, voluntarily.

Then the whole world would be at peace, living voluntarily in harmony with each other and with nature and God, with everyone loving his neighbours as much as (or, preferably, more than) he loves himself.

Who is my neighbour? The man next to you and the man on the far side of the planet and everyone in between.

The word British is actually Hebrew and means "the man or People of The Covenant", in other words the True Israel People or "House of Israel", referred to by Christ in Matthew 15:-

Matthew 15:24 But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the 'lost sheep' of the "House of Israel" (the Ten "Lost" Tribes of Israel who became Christ's, at least in name).

The christian church has purposely wrongly translated the word "community" as "church" to try to justify their own existence and the "holy people" (Israel) as "saints" to deceive everyone and hide the Truth, so that they could then falsely claim to be Israel the church, instead of Israel the NATION.

You were told to preach the Gospel of the KINGDOM, not the church, to all NATIONS not churches, for a witness (Revelation 11 v 3) and then the end of Satan's rule would come - the end of the "Winter" age or dispensation NOT the planet (Matthew 24 v 14).

That means that when everyone knows how fair God's Laws and Economics are for EVERYONE; not like man's laws and economics, which have one law for the poor and another for the rich; then the people would get rid of men's evil systems of government, which are inspired by Satan, and set up God's Kingdom on Earth, for the benefit of ALL mankind.

That is the ONLY thing that Christ wants to do, through you, from within and it is what Paul refers to when he says that Christ lives within him and Christ persuades men through him, (Galatians 1:10). "Do I persuade men or does God do it THROUGH me?" - because the "Self" is crucified already and Christ (The TRUTH) lives in him.

The human "Self" wants only to build its own "Self"-ish little kingdom and NOT God's "self"-less Kingdom. Therefore, if you are doing; saying; thinking or spending money on anything that is not directly helping Christ to set up His Kingdom, and storing up treasure in heaven instead of here, on Earth, then your "Self" is NOT crucified and you are NOT "perfect in Christ", but your "Self" (Ego) lives in you and is feeding itself and building its own kingdom, where it is king, instead of Christ. (Please read "The Different effects of Nature and Grace")

Paul said his "Self" was crucified ALREADY and that Paul the separate "Self" was dead and Christ was living in him, in place of the "Self" (instead of "Self"), teaching him and using him to set up His Kingdom for the benefit of ALL men.

Christ came, not to destroy the NATIONAL (moral) Law and Prophets (only the ceremonial sacrificial Law, which was only a school-master to bring people to Christ) but to fulfill them. The prophets all prophesied about The Kingdom and the setting up of The Kingdom, with its Laws; Statutes; Judgements; Economic Policy; Agricultural Policy etc. and the peace; prosperity and blessings it would bestow on ALL mankind - "Summer".

Matthew 5
5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the Law, or the Prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill.
5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in NO way pass from the Law, till all (the prophecies) be fulfilled.
5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least COMMANDments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the Kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach [them], the same shall be called great in the Kingdom of heaven.
5:20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall EXCEED [the righteousness] of the lawyers and politicians (who were also priests), ye shall in NO case enter into the Kingdom of heaven.

You must therefore STOP thinking about and feeding the "Self"-life and crucify it and let Christ teach YOU how to set up His Kingdom and not your own "Self's" kingdom, where you are king instead of Christ being King.

Put on "the whole armour of God" ("The Force") and fight with the "Sword of the Spirit," which is The Word of God or TRUTH or CHRIST who has "the two-edged sword" ("Light-Sabre") that comes out of His mouth and yours, when He lives in you because the "Self" is dead and then tell people about the wonderful Kingdom, here on Earth, that they can ALL share, IF they help you to convince everyone to turn away from politics and religions (which most people hate anyway already) to Theocracy and God's Kingdom, where there is no crime because there are NO POOR PEOPLE (no poverty).

That is what YOU were ordered to do and if you are NOT doing it, then you are NOT Christ's but Paul's. You are not Christ's but Paulians and in MIS-understanding Paul you are satan's because you are doing something other than the "Will of God" (Islam in Arabic) and there is NO middle-ground. "Those who are not WITH Me, gathering together and building My Kingdom (not church or religion) are AGAINST Me and are scattering abroad (disuniting and creating hostility between the believers)" (Matthew 12:30 & Genesis 49:10).

Don't let your "Self" delude you. Crucify it DAILY and help to set up The Kingdom using God's Ways and God's NATION - (the 10-Tribed House of Israel - Britain and the Commonwealth; America; Scandinavia; the Netherlands; the Baltic States; Northern France and Celtic Spain) starting at His "place of defence", His right hand, the Fortress of Rock - Isaiah 33:16 & Isaiah 42:11 - GIBRALTAR - "Gebal Tariq" - "Tariq's Rock" - Tariq means, in Arabic, the "Night Visitant" - "I shall come as a thief in the night" - Christ. Christ's Rock of defence to gather the people together to defend them and feed them, where their waters shall be sure - Isaiah 43:6 and 33:16.

The 2-Tribed House of Judah (the Jewish) have never accepted their true King - Christ, so will not help until The Kingdom is already in existence with Christ over it.

Stop sitting there patting your "Selves" on the back and being lazy and deluding yourselves that your "Self" is dead and you are "perfect in Christ", or "Saved", when your "Self" is really alive and deceiving you into not doing Christ's and God's Will of setting up the NATIONAL Kingdom for Christ to come and rule over, physically, in person (Genesis 49:10 note well verses 22-24 - with a body from Joseph NOT Judah - the Jews - that means with a NEW body from the Tribe of Joseph/Ephraim NOT the old one from Judah - the Jews), HERE, on Earth. JAH