First off, they are NOT the same person. Jesus said this many, many times. My personal take on this is that once Jesus returned to Jehovah after the Crucifixion, he had a whole new insight into what it meant to be a human being, and eventually mellowed the Old Man out about this "vengeance is mine" thing. I think in the "Old Testament" Jehovah was just generally pissed off at mankind for rejecting Him. Just my opinion of course. "Forgive them Father, for they know not what they do" comes to mind.
2007-05-07 15:11:50
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answered by The Oldest Man In The World 6
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Very good question, and many wonder the same thing:
First, you must realize that Jesus is the same God in the Old Testament. He is the Lord that walked in the Garden with Adam and Eve, The same one who talked with Abraham about Sodom's destruction, The same one at Mt Horeb who told Moses, I AM sent me, and the same one who cleaned the temple of hypocrites on two occasions.
To understand better, please realize that God does not tolerate sin. It is foreign to the peace of His universe, and to preserve that oneness, it will eventually be eradicated.
Let us look at the promise to Abraham: (Genesis15:16) "But in the fourth generation they shall come hither again: for the iniquity of the Amorites [is] not yet full."
That means God would postpone His judgments against Palestine for four-hundred years, then when they were copletely wicket, they would be purged from the land and a theocracy created.
You know the story, Israel fell to idolatry and killed God's prophets, including their Leader, Jesus.
Jesus started another system where governments are not theocracies, but He directs from behind the scenes. Meanwile, Christians preach the Gospel to all nations until "the fullness of the Gentiles has come."
That time is now, and if you haven't guessed, the Gentiles solicited the help of government leaders and persecuted in the name of God--Killed an estimated 50,000,000 people in God's name.
Jesus never commanded us to do that, but to turn the other cheek. Because of such hypocracy Mohammedanism was allowed to prevail, and the Eastern Roman Church fell to Islam--that was foretold in the Bible, by the way (www.revelado.org/islam.htm.
Jesus never failed to rebuke sin. To one man he said, "sin no more unless a worse thing come upon you"; to the woman at the well, after she asked for the living water, Jesus asked: "where is your husband." Yes, she had a shack-up going, and Jesus came to call sinners to repentance. You just can not take those sins with you to heaven, and transgressors will suffer what is called the "second death."
Perhaps you need to read an on-line book that shows you the hidden key to break a code in the only part of the Bible that says you can not understand it until the end of the days. Check it out at www.revelado.org/revealed.htm It was sealed because its message is important for TODAY.
Blessings and AGAPE love, One-Way
2007-05-07 15:34:27
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answered by Anonymous
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They are the same God, and I can show you that.
In the Old Testament, there is reward for those who trust God, and punishment, even divorce for doubting God.
The same thing applies to Jesus, he rewarded trust in God, and punished a lack of it. On top of that he included many times the eventual fate of those who did not trust God.
examples of Both.
Old Testament Blessing:
12 So the LORD alone did lead him, and there was no strange god with him.
13 He made him ride on the high places of the earth, that he might eat the increase of the fields; and he made him to suck honey out of the rock, and oil out of the flinty rock;
14 Butter of kine, and milk of sheep, with fat of lambs, and rams of the breed of Bashan, and goats, with the fat of kidneys of wheat; and thou didst drink the pure blood of the grape.
New Testament curse:
Matthew 11:23
And thou, Capernaum, which art exalted unto heaven, shalt be brought down to hell: for if the mighty works, which have been done in thee, had been done in Sodom, it would have remained until this day.
Old Testament blessing:
Malachi 3:10 Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house, and prove me now herewith, saith the LORD of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it.
New Testament curse:
John 8:24
I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.
So I think that what you might be picking up on is a real difference. In the Old Testament, there is a focus on works. In the new Testament the focus is on faith, and it was revealed in the Old Testament what it would be in the first place, "The Just shall live by faith."
Works was getting people nowhere.
I would recommend you read Romans 3:19-31.
2007-05-07 15:34:53
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answered by Christian Sinner 7
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The old testament reflects the values of nomadic agrarian herdsmen and farmers. Justice is: if someone does you wrong, do wrong back to them. It's us versus them. Every crime is a capitol crime!
The New Testament reflect more urban values. The western world (Rome and it's client state Israel) were building more cities. You can't really afford to go to war with the neighbors if they live next door. So forgive small slights (and even some big ones) and go on with your life. Ask for forgiveness when you wrong someone else, and hopefully they'll do the same.
2007-05-07 15:31:57
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answered by adphllps 5
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Same person. The heart is never changed.
You see. In Genesis, there are 2 trees. One called the tree of Life. The other called the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. God only want us to eat from the tree of Life and not of the knowledge of good and evil.
To know good and evil is to know justice and to have a consciousness of sin (not being good enough). When Adam have a consciousness, his first reaction is to hide from God. God rebuke him by asking him 'Who told you, you are naked?'
God is merciful to Abraham and his descendants because there is the lineage where Jesus the Savior of all man would come from. However, when it comes to the children of Israel in the wilderness after they were delivered from Egypt. They told God that they will be able to keep God's laws. There is WHEN the 10 commandments are introduced and because it is black and white (no mercy and in between). Once man failed, God has to administer justice. Read Exodus and tell me if God wanted them to be in this covenant? God already know that man can't do well in this covenant.
So Jesus came and established a new covenant. One in which Christ has fulfilled all the requirements of the law for us and all our sins are punished on His body. So now God can be merciful to us and yet still administer justice because all our sins/shortcomings were punished.
This, my friend, is the gospel. The good news. The God in Genesis is the same God in Revelation. The heart is the same. The difference is the agreement (covenant) between God and man.
2007-05-07 15:28:25
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answered by Luke Lim 3
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Being very worry-loose: The previous testomony is approximately god. the recent testomony, the thank you to god with the aid of Jesus. 0.33 testomony, the Koran? No it does not artwork. human beings in skill positions do not play nicely with others and oppose differences that threaten their place. There are some that would settle for however the hierarchy then promotes that the different ideals be converted, or destroyed. that consists of all people that would not persist with THEIR way. no rely the prepared faith, the human beings pervert the meanings for their very own income. the worry-loose theory would be good however the top problem is often the human element.
2016-10-15 01:41:42
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answered by Anonymous
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This is God's world, and people do die. Ergo, it's God's fault. The OT gives moments in human history, that are meant to teach a particular lesson. The lesson to be learned in the NT, is 'Ressurection'. I don't believe God went around killing specific people, just to put it in a book. But they did die, and each death had a cause. The cause given in the OT is sin. The NT gives us a new way to deal with sin, redemption, etc.
God is constant
2007-05-07 15:22:12
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answered by Anonymous
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If you would read the Bible again, with this in mind, you will find the answer.
When God directed or actually participated in the killing, like the Canaanites, it was for cause. These were doing some pretty bad things, sacrifice children to the fire god, deliver virgins to an altar, and eat them for power, things which defiled the worst of us in our darkest hours these days.
God knew well why, and these are truly disclosed in the OT, but you have to look.
Deuteronomy 9:5 be cited:
It is not because of your righteousness or your integrity that you are going in to take possession of their land; but on account of the wickedness of these nations, the Lord your God will drive them out before you, to accomplish what he swore to your fathers, to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.
They were cut off to prevent Israel and the rest of the world from being corrupted (Deut. 20:16-18). When a people starts to burn their children in honor of their gods (Lev. 18:21), practice sodomy, bestiality, and all sorts of loathsome vice (Lev. 18:23, 24, 20:3), the land itself begins to "vomit" them out as the body heaves under the load of internal poisons (Lev. 18:25, 27-30). Thus, "objection to the fate of these nations ... is really an objection to the highest manifestation of the grace of God.
In the effect, God destroyed things that were of such evil, that they would halt the progression of men across all nations and time. I would surmise that evil magic's and things that brought delight to none but Satan and his fallen angels was what God destroyed in the nations that were perverted by them, for the salvation of all men, in the future, unspeakable evils that we have no knowledge of today. Things that the very earth we live on repulsed from its midst.
So this destruction that so many speak of as a great evil done by God, reflected in the Old Testament, was not evil at all. It was His Holy Might protecting us from vile things, that did not belong to men, nor upon this earth.
The New, and the Old Testament, both are about saving mankind. This is a Great Love we are shown by God, not a contradiction.
2007-05-07 15:21:56
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answered by pwrslm23 2
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Because the Bible, Old and New Testaments, were written by human beings, and reflect the communal understanding of God and his providence. As culture refined, the tone of Scripture refined with it.
2007-05-07 15:11:26
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answered by NONAME 7
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The old testament is LAW, which can be very cruel if disobeyed. The new testament is LOVE which can be wonderful if lived and received. "Law came through Moses, grace and truth came by Jesus Christ" "the law is a schoolmaster to lead us to Christ"
2007-05-07 15:13:12
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answered by expertless 5
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